Quote from Migz :

I found this one whilst going through a download of 25 best drum and bass albums. It's pretty good.
Evol Intent - Middle Of The Night

His album Era of Division is quite diverse tbh, I think this is one of the best songs on there though, but its a good listen.

Quote from Greboth :

Hmmm I don't know why but Pyramids (along with small gods and moving pictures) never really enjoyed compared to the others, still good books though. Would be interesting to hear your opininon on it.

I liked it, but yea, doesnt have the flare of say Mort but I love all of Pratchett's books. Going to borrow nation from my uncle when I get the chance.

Reading Ed Macy - Apache at the moment. Non-fiction about an ex-British Army Apache pilot, loving it...recommended read and I'm only quarter of the way through!

Quote from Migz :

Good! At least its not only me playing it constantly at full volume haha

It is an amazing song

I do prefer the original version, has deep bass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvlBWfQ84As&fmt=18

Heres a couple of trance drum and bass by John B:

Red Sky
Mercury Skies

Some more nice tracks:
Dom & Black Sun Empire - Sparta
Rawthang - Scorned
Gridlok - Londons Burning

Quote from chavm481 :

im looking for trippy techno music like the stuff on nfs prostreet...

trippy 'techno'...look no further than goa or psy trance...such as this EPIC tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... eature=related&fmt=18

tomshardware.co.uk
anandtech.com
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/

to be honest when I am looking for new hardware and go on what I can potentially buy and search for reviews and compare just by google.

The ATI 4890 is a better card and you can pick one up in the UK for roughly the same price so I would check that out

If you are using the computer for gaming I would price up how much it would cost for a phenom II tri core maybe quad core, AMD processors are still excellent for gaming, and you might be surprised to how much you can pick them up for. It will probably be more than your 850 but it all depends on how much you want to spend.

If you do want the computer for gaming then a dual core CPU at the same price (about an E8400) will be better. The cores are clocked higher and most games do not make use of more than 1 core at the moment.

this is what I am going to do tomorrow, the 3 month subscription. TBH with hours I work...its doubtful I can spend much time on it...and it seems like you need hours on it to progress....but we'll see.

Quote from Vinnylegends :

Credit Crunch?

Leading to increased suicide...I like your thinking baby wuhoho!

This thread is feeding me...just done a 12 hour shift now I'm listening to it all!

Just add a few more...

TZA - Fuct Dark and grindy
Nine Inch Nails - The Hand that Feeds (Zardonic Remix) Energetic remix
State of Mind & PNC - City on Fire Rap DnB beaty
State of Mind feat Tiki - Kinetic Bit too long but good tune

Forgot to also mention Concord Dawn which is also a good group, some tracks by them:
Don't Tell Me
Morning Light
Ill Skillz - I'll be there for you (Concord Dawn Remix)

Also Migz that tune is amazing, this one sounds similar with the styling of the vocals, but its just more hardcore check it out
Counterstrike - Can't let go (TZA Remix) yarr!

Also cannot beleive I left this one out!
Antiform - Crash feat. MC Twincam

Last edited by spacedskunk, Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:51.

This thread is just randomness, I'm rather addicted to drum and bass and some of the genres related to it (that mostly equal sub genres, which I find pointless) and have been for quite some time.

Its just a thread to share dnb songs that got me into drum and bass into the first place, you never know, this genre might grab you too So let me know what you think


Start with the classics, ones that people who listen to it will probably know:
Black Sun Empire - Arrakis Kicks in at 2:10 with huge bass!
State of Mind - Mindslicer SOM is a dnb group that is compared to Pendulum
Sub Focus - X-Ray Commercial but think its pretty cool
The Prodigy - Voodoo People (Pendulum Remix)
High Contrast - Days Go By simple lyrics, they make a good song
Black Sun Empire - The End of Me Was addicted to this a year ago, still love it!
Noisia - Block Control When this kicks in...

Then I discovered some louder ones:
PNAL - Closer to God Sounds sort of meh, but this one from a Romanian group grew on me
Yana Kay - Run Away (Vortex Involute Remix) Love the bass in this
Current Value - Dark Rain I love how hell just breaks lose in this
Stim Axel - Звуки Дождя Russian vocal DnB, amazing
Chehonte - Lerkini 15 (Beat Version) Slow and has a morbid darkness to it, but the bassline is addictive

Then I discovered some crazy ones, and I got sucked into mad basslines:
The Qemists - Stompbox (Spor Remix) P.S Ear Melter
Audio - Fallout :eek:
Future Signal - Death Mask Atmospheric
Panacea and Audio - Perished VIP Mad start
Telemetrik - Exit Civilization Check out his album 'My Lightyear', I like it all
Iszoloscope - The Exhibit Chaos Behavior Actually breakbeat from Canada but its quick with plenty of drums so :P
Counterstrike & Eye-D - The Grind Immense bassline
Unknown Error - Sucker Punch This makes like Chuck Norris on crack

Just a selection anyway...if you like DnB already, feed me :P

EDIT
Failed on the qemists spor remix, fixed the link. amazing tune!

Last edited by spacedskunk, Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:05.

These first hand stories of people admitting LFS at least taught them the basics are quite inspiring.

And damn am I jealous btw...

Excellent save!

The Highway Code

also Pyramids by Terry Pratchett.

I have been looking around for my first car, cheapest I have found is a 1999 1.2 fiat punto at £650, insurance TPFT at £1200, but it will likely go down abit as I won't have passed my test till I am after 21.

Quote from Joe_Keaveney :

I've put together a list of components which would do the trick IMO. Probably a little bit cheaper and just as good.


Antec 902 Nine Hundred Two Black ATX Case - No PSU
Corsair 520W HX Series Modular PSU - ATX12V v2.2 APFC
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L iP45 Soc ... nel audio ATX Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.66GH ... )) L2 Cache OEM Processor (Although the Q8400 looks very good too!)
Arctic Cooling AC-FRZ-7P Freez ... cket 775 Processor Cooler
Samsung EcoGreen F2 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 32MB Cache - OEM
Sapphire HD 4890 1GB GDDR5 Dua ... V Out PCI-E Graphics Card
OCZ 4GB Kit (2x2GB) DDR2 1066M ... HPC Edition Dual Channel
Sony AD-5200A-0B 20X DVD±RW/D ... DE Bare Black Drive - OEM
Antec TriCool 120mm DBB Case Fan


No doubt there's better DVD drives out there, but that one will do. That lot of components worked out at £675 which in euros is just under 790 Euros. I reckon that would make for a decent PC!

Ok choices there just a few recommendations I would change:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148859 (Kingston ram, cheaper and better timings, so win win)

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150247 (This HDD, its only 640GB but amazing speeds, the drive you choose was 5400rpm anyway)

Also you don't need the other case fan, so other than that yea good choices

I would recommend an ATI 4890 instead, they are cheaper than the GTX275 and pretty much on par with it in terms of performance.

You don't really need an aftermarket/third party cooler if your not looking at overclocking.

DFI boards are brilliant for overclockers as they practically have every setting you could wish to fine tune it, if your not going to be doing this then I would recommend a Gigabyte or Asus motherboard. I would also look at getting a P45 motherboard,

As for the processor, if your mainly going to be gaming go for a dual core, not a quad core. Most games at the moment don't make use of multi-core, something like the E8500, which is an excellent gaming CPU and the same price as the Q8400 you chose. Reason being the cores in the dual are clocked higher than the quads.

If the website sells them, I would very much recommend a 640GB Western Digital Black harddrive, these things are quick, quiet and very reliable.

Memory is pretty much weighing up the numbers, but I would recommend OCZ memory, they tend to be cheap with low timings and decent frequencies, so definately check them out if the website stocks that brand.

As for the PSU, I would really recommend a more expensive one. For the parts chosen a 550W will be a safe bet. Go for a relatively cheap one, possibly Akasa or again OCZ.

The case is a good choice, maybe to save money the Coolermaster Storm Scout.

EDIT
Oh yea and as Jakg said, the sound card is a bit meh. To be honest unless your finicky with sound, on board tends to be more than good enough.

Last edited by spacedskunk, Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:59.

that had me laughing hahaha amazing, thanks for sharing

Quote from Jakg :

In the UK:

You buy a provisional (£50) - you are allowed to drive any car as long as you've got someone over 21 who's held a UK license for over 3 years in the car. You aren't allowed on motorways and have to have an L plate on the front.

Also the vehicle needs to be insured for you to drive as well.

Quote from MijnWraak :

Are you planning on SLI'ing? If not just go for the 520HX corsair. 750 is overkill.

Maybe, just 750 is a safe bet. The case has 6 fans, there will be 3 HDDs in it in total, and I'll also be overclocking. When I get a new video card I may get crossfire too, so its just there for being there's sake.

Quote from shiny_red_cobra :

Pretty good build. But you don't want a new video card as well? An 8800 is old now.

I'll upgrade that at a later date, another 3-4 months

I'm upgrading (will be buying in roughly 3 weeks), taking my xfi card...BFG 8800gtx and optical drives out of this machine, everything else is being replaced...how do these parts look?

http://i41.tinypic.com/2u5f8g2.jpg

Thanks in advance!!!!!

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Just let them moan.. you try your best..

This is the thing see...its like trying to sell an TV to a person for £1000, when they have the same model for £500.

Why such a difference in price questions their market research to be fair.

Quote from amp88 :

Do you know how your sales stats compare to the rest of the members of your team?

Accurately we're all the same there abouts, its not the fact that I'm failing....we're all in the same boat. The company I work for is only 9 out of 10 competitive.

I wouldn't say I hate my job, but I just thought I'd rant about just how it is...

I do telesales, and I sell motor insurance mainly. Its not the best job in the world, but hey...at the time I needed a job really badly they took me on, trained me and what not.

However I keep getting looked down on by my seniors/managers, because I...funnily enough, cannot sell a car insurance quote that's twice the price they have already been offered, with the same benefits. Our niche market so to speak is students/post grads/teachers, yet even when these people call, we are more expensive...so how the hell...can I sell insurance to people like you or me, when we are way more expensive?!?! arghh! I keep wanting to say to them...maybe you need to do market research and model the prices so they are not based on everyone driving their car blindfolded and with a heavy injection of steroids!

/End rant.

P.S
This is pointless, but hey, feel my pain.

I used Vista and and Windows 7 last night, both new installs and ran some games off a separate disc. I get more fps on Windows 7, and it generally seems a whole lot faster, and polished compared to compared to Vista.

You can also download Windows 7 free at the moment: http://technet.microsoft.com/e ... 353205.aspx?ITPID=mscomsc

There's one thing I will definitely recommend on the HDDs and thats buying 2 Western Digital 640GB Caviar Black HDDs and putting them in RAID 0. This (if you don't already know) 'stripes' the discs, so it uses them in sync doubling read/write/bandwidth etc without the loss of space. The drives themselves are cheap, very quiet and very fast to start with. And I think 1.28TB of space will be easily enough