This guy was lagging pretty bad I think...from an obscure country

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Wkp9DCv4Y

Happened a long time ago. Really the only time its happened to me this badly. I made the video to send him because he was NOT happy lol.

It was a 0x and then I got a 2x because he crashed iirc.

Quote from anttt69 :

Hmm maybe hate was to strong a word to use, i certainly dont like the idea of renting something that just becomes more & more expensive. Why doesn't it make sense? I either try iRacing or i dont try iRacing, i didnt want to miss out on a sim that claims to be the best so i gave it a fair crack of the whip & came to my own conclusions.

Maybe it was a mistake to spend that much maybe it wasn't, i can always come back in two years or so when i feel its worth it & use all the content i currently own. With LFS as my benchmark iRacing still has a long way to go imo.

I guess what confused me the most was calling something extortion that you voluntarily paid for. A little melodramatic

Also qft on people not being around for prime time in the Pacific time zone.

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Quote from anttt69 :

I agree 100% the stock content needs to be a better package. Also whilst its nice of them to offer payed up members 20% off Aussie content, its still extortion.
LFS cost me £24 i have owned full content for 5 years & i will get another car & updated physics for free (when its ready). In comparison iRacing cost me $150, all i got was 6 months of membership & a portion of the content. The biggest thorn in my side is despite spending 4x as much on iRacing i cant just go load up the software i paid big bucks for & have a play because of their restrictions.

Its just not a fair deal, i hate renting, it just means constant spending for virtually nothing & every time they release more content iRacing becomes more expensive & so on & so on. Just out of interest how much would full content & two years membership cost? (incl of aussie cont)

This all sounds like your own fault...

Why would you pay $150 for it if you hate the idea of paying for it? None of your points make any sense at all.

The solstice is the best racing in iracing and its limited to two tracks

I wish I had the time/money/dedication to do a hosted league. That would be awesome.

Quote from oscarhardwick :

really considering getting this, If they do a deal that is less than £10 a month that is (pocket moneis) I will do, but what can you guys tell me, how serious is the racing? will it benefit my real life racing? and generally, is it worth the money?

thanks,

Oscar.

There are very, very few things out there that will get you to the level of concentration you need while racing a car. When you're in a car and your life is on the line it comes naturally. Somehow a computer game with a wheel can get your brain to that same place.

For that reason alone it is worth it. If you don't exercise your brain you will get rusty. If you keep yourself sharp you can just hop onto the track and drive like you never stopped.

Hopefully you can actually pass people on road courses while drafting now...

It sucks how it is now.

oh the racing is probably going to be terrible except in the top tier races

Can't wait to see the pro races after its released!

The hotlapping competition is probably going to be grueling though that's for sure.

I think the most awesome part of this is going to be driving the f1 car on all the amazing super accurate American circuits that fancypants FIA has deemed unsafe.

I think this should prove to be a little better experience than an rfactor mod flying around lifeless tracks.

wow! I just shook my head in disbelief here at the lounge on campus. Lol I got a couple weird looks even.

I really can't believe it. They've been hinting at it for a while now, but never NEVER would I have guessed a 2009 car. This is really just unbelievable.

iRacing has hit it big imo

Quote from JJ72 :

iRacing don't have cars with road tires so road car level of driftability (did i made that up? lol) shouldn't be expected. But the solitice and the Legend are very managable on the limit, and the Lotus as well.

In NKO the FF1600 is driftable, as it runs on nearly road tires, but other ares not that much different from Iracing

the legend cars and the skippy are both on road tires

Boris sense of speed doesn't mean WTF OMG IM GOIN 2 BILLION MPH

Its being able to differentiate between 35 and 55 mph without looking at the speedo. Real life does have that..and I agree that it could be better in gt5

Lol whatever guys sorry I don't like your new favorite game as much as you do.

Enjoy your super difficult most realistic ever balls to the wall difficult console sim.

I am so nice I am even refraining from trolling the shit out of you guys right now.

I will refrain from any more blasphemous comments against the gran turismo gods for fear of angering them any further DO NOT SMITE ME MY LORD!

Quote from funRacer[83] :

you don´t get it, this is NOT GT5 this is just the GT5 TimeTrial, so there are no aids that you can activate or setups which you can tune, its a product just designed for the competition!

In GT5 you will have also an more arcadish physic and some aids with which its pretty easy to play. And the game IS predictable, but its just the simpart in this TimeTrial so don´t worry in the full game they will add the arcade part and you could again enjoy it.

Well I never played any of those other console games with aids on, so I'm not sure what I would be waiting for.

Also TC is forced on for the untuned car and it feels absurd.

And lastly, the last 6 months of development will not bring any serious changes to the core of the game...unless they decide to delay another year and a half.

Hmmm it seems to me like the person on the inside has the line

Too bad your first race back was such a short one.

Quote from Boris Lozac :

How, how can anyone post this s*it? First of all, games like GT should not be played with a controller, second, physics are just awesome, i really have no idea what some of you are talking about. They outdone themselves, i'm really impressed.

Anyway, 1'38:267 with the tuned so far..

I would be more excited to go back and load up GT3 and GT4 than play that demo again.

And console games are never exclusively designed to be played with a wheel. Forza and the previous GT games have been extremely controllable with a...controller? lol anyways. This game feels like there is a total disconnect to what buttons I push and what happens on screen. A sim should not be confusing...rather pretty damn predictable.

I went into this wanting to like it...just label me as a shit slinger. I have countless hours logged on old GT games. I think they're seriously losing sight of how a console sim should drive. Megahint it should be very comfortable and fulfilling to drive with a controller.

That was disgusting

I can't even believe they're serious right now

Now more than ever I'm pissed that my xbox has rrod

The overbearing absolute shit traction control logic just makes me want to throw my controller through the tv. Forza 3 (and 2 lol) handles everything they just put out better than gt5 does. Right now this game deserves no higher than an 8/10.

I can't even really form a logical argument against it right now other than it sucks balls

I can't find it on the PSN....I don't need a system update either

Where is it

I try so hard to love this car...I just can't get along with it. Its just not any fun to drive. If you could really muscle it around and make it your bitch then yeah it'd be great...but you really just have to tiptoe everywhere and the steering feels like balls

My car looks awesome as shit though.

The spec racer was far worse than the skippy. In the spec racer we were running the car as grippy as possible and it would still turn around on a whim.

In the skippy I am one click from full stiff on the rear bar, and close to maximum front camber and I can set very fast times with it.

Bastien Barstch set a world record right foot braking...not even rev matching which will cause even more entry oversteer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lB47YLfsjc

Its all about driver input..you can keep the car very straight or very sideways depending on what you do with the wheel.

The real car has...horrible trailing throttle oversteer though

There was a Canadian show called star racer. They put a bunch of shit amateur drivers into skip barber cars and the winner got to be a star mazda driver for a season.

They were spinning all over the place on entry.

Its got an open diff, its super light, and it has road tires.

will read more later when I have time...just skimmed it

The throttle is really unlinear in iracing atm. The majority of the power is applied in the last 10% of the pedal travel. Half throttle on the green bar is no where near half throttle in real life...it makes throttle under braking look terribly unrealistic and goofy, but in reality the power output is very little.

The throttle is also just used to negate engine braking, you aren't actually accelerating forward if you do it properly.

It was just debated before, and then verified in the Kaemmer interview that happened last night.

Quote from ScoobRX :

So did anyone ever get an iRacing survey sent to them a few weeks ago? Funny how when they asked "what other sims do you race" LFS was never mentioned. Maybe they are afraid that if people find out about LFS and try it, they will realize that iRacing isn't the only realistic sim and that it's not that much further ahead in terms of physics as everyone made it out to be

iRacing doesn't afraid of anything

Crommi there was an excellent discussion about bumpstop gap and what a negative number really means on the forums.

There was the guy who made the indy car participating in the discussion.

He was saying that their bumpstop material is actually quite a soft material and a negative number should not be seen as a solid suspension. The bump stop is acting like another spring when it starts to get compressed ramping up the spring rate as it goes further into the negative. Having a negative bumpstop or zero bumpstop gap on this car just means that it is touching or slightly compressed and will get stiffer as it is compressed harder.

In the future he said that we'd have the option to choose the durometer of the bump stops lol...more setup options

Dave I'll throw some laps together tonight if I have time. I'm off to campus at the moment and have a substantial amount of solid works to get done before tomorrow. I should have saved some replays from last night...

Don't get me wrong, I do crash kind of frequently. It is kind of how I learn a track...110% and eventually I string a lap together. It is frustrating and sometimes boring but I actually crash more trying to go slowly lol. I just can't really recall any times that I actually had to countersteer and it shot off in the other direction.

Dave I'm not sure if I can really agree with you. I've been silently reading and contemplating what you've been saying, but I'm just not seeing it.

The Dallara doesn't really display any of the handling characteristics that the old mazda did. I don't think I have snap spun once. The slides are also pretty savable. I don't even find it twitchy

I'm using volker's set and have gotten down to a low 12 at Barber so I am driving it plenty hard to know what it actually handles like.

Also...brace yourself for this one guys...Richard Towler actually likes the Dallara. I think hell has frozen over.

UncleBenny did you ever post your thoughts on the corvette?

http://www.nessoft.com/ispeed/

very elegant solution for an external hud for iracing

I dig it

I think you need to use his theory of relativity to figure it out too

They posted on the forums that they just didn't have enough time to put decent setups together and they may add some over time. The cars were really worked on right up until they were made public...marketing team vs dev team decision?

Either way they're both a huge blast.

I may have just failed (or close to it) my linear algebra midterm but at least I've got iracing! Hmmm

ok really gotta go now haha