Check out the PDF in this post for "improving wide angle viewing for web conferences". They use a 5 camera hardware array (with each camera having varying FOV's) to capture the video, stitch the separate images together into one, and then apply warping.
The technique in the article used for generating a single, non-distorted flat image. But if LFS could do something similar then you could use a curved screen or dome and a single projector, with a lens that can evenly distribute the light across the entire curved surface, then you wouldn't need 3 projectors. Of course I think these lenses cost ~$20k!
Anyway, I'm talking out of my butt. I don't really know much about this stuff. But, I too am looking to build the ultimate sim setup
hmmm... well I guess I can't comment since I've never sat in a 3 projector setup with 3 camera angles!
But I would think that the angles between the 3 projectors might be too much.For 180 degrees I think you would need atleast 5 monitors or 5 projectors. But yeah I used 4:3 monitors because that's what I have in front of me so it was easy to take screenshots
Edit: Actually since I used 45 degrees FOV in these screenshots, I guess you would only need 4 - but then you would not have a center screen.I believe Juls' suggestion in the other thread was for single display setups - which is what the majority of LFS users have.
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Thats because your center view is not 45 degrees like in the picture above. The picture above is 3 view ports (45 degrees FOV each) with their own camera angle as mentioned here and in the FOV thread. This isn't possible in LFS. Unless you're using 135 degree FOV - but I'm guessing no since it looks pretty awful!
edit.. hmmm... I missed that look steer part. I've never used that before so perhaps that would work. I don't have 3 monitors either so I can't test it. It seems like it would be unnatural though.
edit.. hmmm... I missed that look steer part. I've never used that before so perhaps that would work. I don't have 3 monitors either so I can't test it. It seems like it would be unnatural though.
One thing that may be annoying is that with a 3 monitor setup you have to use the left and right monitors in order to see the apex of the turn. You have to turn your head a good amount in real life too so in that respect it's more realistic. But in real life you don't have large plastic monitor bezels blocking your vision!
In the image below, the yellow lines represent where the monitor borders would be.
Until borderless triple monitor displays become more common place I think Juls suggestion in the FOV thread is a better approach. Since it works with single displays a single projector could give a decently realistic image..
In the image below, the yellow lines represent where the monitor borders would be.
Until borderless triple monitor displays become more common place I think Juls suggestion in the FOV thread is a better approach. Since it works with single displays a single projector could give a decently realistic image..
Nope, that's really the point of this thread is to add support for such a feature. I also mentioned it in the FOV thread.
Multiple viewports makes LFS look 100x more realistic!
Yeah you could do that in XP.
Ultramon also adds a taskbar on every monitor which is the most important feature IMHO.
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hmmm.. well in that case, XP never had a horizontal span either! Extended desktop doesn't merge multiple monitors into one.
evans, thanks for that link. I've never really attempted left foot braking either in real life or in LFS. I never realized the right foot was supposed to remain on the gas.
I always thought it was simply to minimize the transition from braking to acceleration. I never thought about keeping a turbo spooled up, etc.
I always thought it was simply to minimize the transition from braking to acceleration. I never thought about keeping a turbo spooled up, etc.
I'm not sure if the AI cars use the default setup or not, but you can force them to use the same setup as you somewhere in the options. If the AI cars are running faster than you it should be easy to see where you're losing time. If you're running equal times then you're definitely losing speed somewhere as the AI usually takes it easy through chicanes and other places where humans usually go full throttle.
Taylor, nice job. Even if you only dropped a second off of your time, that would put you about midfield in the Road Sport Cup league. Pretty impressive 
hyntty, I got your PM. You don't have to worry about your friend Taylor. I'll make sure he's nowhere near the top 10. I'll make it look like an accident by choosing the RAC, muwhahah! Just focus on getting that 1st place. I accept paypal for services rendered.
Agreed. I'm looking forward to this combo because I like the cars, but I'm pretty sure it will be boring after the first 1-2 laps.
bah.. not sure why I said that. It was an awful race for me and I really had no chance of winning even if I didn't wreck and spin out 100 times. But I wasn't even planning on entering the race so I guess having an nightmare of a race is better than not racing at all... maybe..
I'm not sure what it's like in portugal, but here you can find a pretty decent used CRT fairly easily. I got a brand new (as in ~3-4 months old) 17" Dell CRT monitor for $15 USD at a garage sale last year.
I felt I could have won that race. I lost focus on the early laps as I was a bit upset after a T1 incident that put me into last place. At that point I just felt like leaving to be honest.
But for remaining 2/3rds of the race I think I was a good amount faster than the rest of the field all the way up to the final lap.
But for remaining 2/3rds of the race I think I was a good amount faster than the rest of the field all the way up to the final lap.
In that case, I don't think it would work at all. After all, with a single monitor we would see the blurry edges in our center of vision and it would just look fake.
As far as the variable FOV, well I kind of feel the same way. Unless you had a large enough display, it think it would just look really bizarre.
As far as the variable FOV, well I kind of feel the same way. Unless you had a large enough display, it think it would just look really bizarre.
Stan that looks amazing! Have fun.
Interesting gimpster,
If you had an immersive display, like 3 or 5 monitors or a curved screen, wouldn't there be no need to fake the resolution degradation? After all, since the leftmost and rightmost parts of the immersive display are in your peripheral vision, they are already degraded!
If you had an immersive display, like 3 or 5 monitors or a curved screen, wouldn't there be no need to fake the resolution degradation? After all, since the leftmost and rightmost parts of the immersive display are in your peripheral vision, they are already degraded!
haha. well I'm guilty of the fuel bit because I stopped attempting to do simple math after I got my college degree
i didn't think people cared about that! I had one in my last car. To be honest, I didn't like it. For a street car, it weighs down the seat belt (so you have to manually retract it), it sometimes would dig into me, and on summer days (in a convertible) it would heat up like crazy just like those good old metal seat belts.
Haha. Well I didn't mean I was against sharing sets... I just think it's more proper to ask for sets in a practice session or in the forums "before" the race is about to start.
I don't understand why manufacturers can't use properly bolstered seats in the first place. People who ride in my car always love how the seats "hold you in". When I explain to them that the seats don't hold you in for sh*t and I have the dents in the speaker panels to prove it they look at me all confused...
I think the big difference here is you were trying hard to get better. Some people just show up before the race and ask for sets!
I don't mind sharing sets with people who are working hard for it. Still, with the exception of the last race, which I put alot of work into, I've been using default sets with little practice and have been running midpack?FGED GREDG RDFGDR GSFDG