Hi racers,

i had just an idea which is really hard to realize. Maybe one of you want to give it a try

The idea ist following: 7 races will be done where each last 24 hours (or 14 events with 12 hours) and the championship is similar to a rallye event with multiple stages... so no points will be given, just the times will be added.
There will be no multiclass racing, so each event has another car to ensure all have the same chances (i think 24h with an UF1 would be great fun ). The simple goal is to have a full week of racing in the end

Thats just an idea as i said, and if anyone is interested, he/she can do it without permission.

Quote from Funnybear :

Phft, another version of yet another track. If I want something different, I go to a different track. I know you mean well, and I love the fact that you are trying something new. Big up for that. But on a serious note, AS3 is actually, and arguable, one of the best circuits in LFS. There is a real reason why it is so popular, mainly for the very reasons you've explained for changing it.

It's easy to learn, but hard to get right.
It has space to get around people, but also space to fight.
It has a 'defined' good time. And you know when you get to the low 1.42's your getting there. But from there to the low 1.41's is a massive leap.
And the contraversial point is, it's popular for the very fact that it's popular. There is some perverse, although somtimes overwhelming, enjoyment from starting at the back of a packed noob grid and battling to the front and racing with the fast guys. How often do you see the 141'ers cruise to the front, only to intentinally start from the back again in the next race.

I'm all for variety and well intentioned track experimentation. That can never be a bad thing. But to slam a popular track for continually being good. There are some things you just won't change, and AS3's popularity is one of them. Untill rockingham that is, but I doubt even then you'll get much of a traffic drop. People like what they know.

Long text, good critics
But i think you did not notice the goal of this action: Making something popular different
We know, that AS3/GTR is a very popular combo, but it gets boring when you have driven 1000 laps + on the same combo And so we made it a bit different and more difficult

Quote from Tomas Miranda :

This could be AS3.2 or AS8 =D

Anyway, are you guys thinking on mounting a league based on modified circuits? For example, I think any Kyoto combination let to create a "WTCC-Type chicanne" or that one placed in the rainy Barcelona 1996 F1 race

I hope you know that type of chicannes made by which always creates some spectacle :P

We are actually thinking of that, stay tuned

News:
We now have a points script on our Homepage:
http://www.xcite-racing.de/ind ... te=static&staticID=23

We did also several changes to the layout for better racing and better apex visibility. Furthermore the layout uses less objects which will improve performance

Hope to see much of you today and have fun on our version of Aston National

Hello LFS Community,

are you tired from stupid AS3 GTR racing? Tired of the full throttle orgies on this combo? Then we have something different for you A completely revised version of AS3 with modified corners and 2 new chicanes! The Track is now more challenging, so it is not easy to get used to. But this challenging new layout have a few relevant good features:

* New overtaking points
* More space for fails
* More Fun

Interested? Then come on our server! The name is:
Xcite AS3 Special-X



Note: This layout is invented by Xcite and will only be seen there

Regards,

The Xcite Racing Team

Hi,

we just made a layout for AS3 and we need a few testers now. So if you want, just enter following server:
Xcite AS3 Special-X

Please let your comment or any improvement suggestion in this thread

Thanks to all joiners

Quote from dekojester :

I have stated the reasons for our choice to not permit him entry in the email sent to the team, and the IM conversation with you regarding it.

It involves the experiences we find the driver to have had by looking at his statistics and results on LFSWorld and spdoEventdb. It involves the pace shown in events he has participated in.

The appeal process provides opportunities to prove your side of it in an attempt to reverse the decision.

The other 27 teams in the league do not need to know all the details regarding this situation, simply because this conversation is going on longer in public than it should be, which can and will provide a distraction to the other teams.

Further posts regarding this situation will be removed from this thread.

d.

Write to me on MSN

Quote from dekojester :

Okay folks, an appeal has been recieved reagarding the matter, and we will now deal with it and come to a decision shortly.

It MUST be known that favourites are not played here. We are what I like to call "Equal Opportunity Offenders": we don't care who you are, we will enforce rules. And in the case of a judgement call which it is whether or not an MoE or IGTC driver should be allowed into GTAL there is room interpretation - of stats, recorded experiences, etc.

If you would like to contest a decision, please do it in a civilised manner. Attacking any other driver for "getting through the same rule but us not" or us admins for "playing favourites" is certainly not acceptable, and quite on the verge of unsporting behaviour.

I, and the rest of NDR, will tolerate ONLY polite, courteous discussion to achieve a common goal: You to get what you wish to get, within our rules as they are enforced.

dekojester.

Then DO somthing and do not talk around the things.... We got 3 different main reasons why he is not allowed to drive. So what is the main reason now? Is it his open wheel WRs? Is it his speed? Or is it why he only drove one nedurance event in the last two years?

We feel like in an unemployment agency now....

Quote from racer hero :

And I have almost double the races that he has. I remember us going through a simular situation with you last year, now you know how it feels.

The main reason why we DQed you is that you tried to cheat us in the Test Event. The other thing was another rulebook we had compared to the actual

And FXR is not a reason GTR Endurance is GTR Endurance

Quote from racer hero :

It's funny how you try to force Deko into a decision. There is no intimidating Deko, he doesn't care if people don't like him, and that is what makes him a good admin. Kthx.

http://www.spdoracing.com/eventdb/driver/Racer+hero
http://www.spdoracing.com/eventdb/driver/Maddin15

Okay, now tell me where it is a good decision?
You have more wins, poles and podiums in a shorter time dude!

Ah, and i forgot your good place in following IGTC race:
http://www.spdoracing.com/eventdb/event/910

Because of the thing with maddin15:

Martin is an Open Wheel driver, not a GTR driver... look at his WRs! In The last time there were only sprint races in the City Liga. So i think his endurance capability is not good.
Next point is, that maddin had a long break from LFS and only drove City Liga in that phase.
And my last point:
Kenneth and Tommy are very similar with Martins skills, so i think if Martin is not allowed to drive, you should diqualify them too from season.
Do you have rules or not? At the moment you should think about them, because you made exceptions for 2 advanced drivers for maybe friends, and now there is a guy from our team who had no endurance experience in the last year and you say "no".

I think you have two options now:
- DQ the other advanced drivers from GTAL
- let Martin drive

You HAVE TO make a decision of this two options, otherwise you loose your trustworthiness and you will blow up the spirit of the league.
The idea of this league was to give "not MoE and IGTC Teams" a place to enhance their endurance capabilities and we from Xcite are not good in this section atm. We want to learn from faster drivers and this is only possible, if they are IN the team. Other teams will show you the middlefinger.

no problems here so far

the installer makes LFS more comfortable i think, good work.

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

Hilarious.

signed

Dragonforce - Through the Fire and Flames

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hi scawen,

i have a small wish (maybe you can add it): can you make an option to turn lights on by default? and it would be more realistic to let the lights on only when engine is running

Z20 seems to run good and stable, good work

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Did this really need this un-requested bump?

yeah, because now mods can close this sh**

Quote from AlienT. :

"Americans with Syphillis Unite"

pwned

Quote from SkyNet :

Scawen: I hope it's not a rude question, but how much does the laser scanning of the whole track, like Rockingham, cost?

It takes a lot of time.... i worked for a german company for a few weeks where we scanned a bridge for static purpose. only this bridge took about 1 day to scan and the engineer i asked meant that it takes much hours to create a 3d model only of a bridge
so figure out how long it takes for a whole race track, additional texturing and all lfs related thingys.
i think it took several months, because the devs are only three and they cant use only the scanned model, it would have too much details... so the had to make it good for the game so that it runs smooth in game at a high detail grade

woohoo!!!!

finally a real track in LFS and with many possible configurations
hope that the new track and the new car get the traitors back to our religion

when i calculating right, we get 62 new car/track combos :/

edit: and we all have to learn LFS from beginning due new physics and on that day i will be on vacation

Quote from Tomhah :

But if a team does not have an entry in IGTC/MoE, will they also be reviewed, driver by driver?

Im quoting my last post:

you always try to get kenneth into GTAL.... simply wait for the rules and see what NDR does

0,0066845813446703832938943033997781 AU (Astronomical Units) he drove, thats 0.0022% distance from sun to pluto

EDIT: corrected

Last edited by Trekkerfahrer, Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:08.

Server is up again with major changes (sorry for extended downtime):

- Race lenght now lap based
- No time schedule anymore (except daily track change)
- No qualy anymore
- Airio 2.3.3 installed

Following settings are only for about 2 weeks:
- mid-race join allowed
- no PB needed

Fot the future we will set-up a small training server to give you a place to get the required time to be allowed to race.
At this point we will switch on the 5% rule again
See you on track!

hi victor, can you please delete all mods in Grand Touring Amateur League subsection and just add "dekojester"?
He will take over the business

closed

Final words:
I understand Fluid Racing, but we thought much about what we do.... in fact E-Team finished all races, because in all races they crossed the finish line. A simple rule leak that have to be fixed for the next season.
The result was finished and you knew about.... maybe you should have made a protest against the standings, but now its too late....

E-Team is champion for Season 1 and thats it now.

Last edited by Trekkerfahrer, Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:17.

the server will be down for about 1 hour for maintainance.... sorry