Quote from thisnameistaken :

That's the hardnut's perspective anyway. In reality I'd probably give up the position unless I'd raced with you a few times and got used to you. But I'd certainly never turn in on you at the corner entry if you were alongside and neither should anybody else.

IMO for pickup races its better to yeld the postion than to force it. You don't kknow exactly how the other person is going to react.

However if this was a points race I would push as fast as I can while providing JUST enough room for the other person to manuver. Once you have the overlap your in control and can basically give as much or as little room you want no matter where on the track as long as you give a good line on entry for the person and don't cut them up.

Exits are different as in if you on the outside you can 'squeeze' them a bit by running away from the wall on exit. Be prepared for contact though for a good driver will not let down and will push back to gain that room back so they can have a decent run down the strait, which is effectively what your taking away from them by making them run the corner at not optimum angles.

Take care though as this can be considered blocking or running off the track, it's more a 'use at your own risk' type of manuver and cannot be used in all circumstances. I am not talking about pinning the driver onto the inside wall just off the apex, just a bit so you have the upper hand coming on the strait having upper hand in momentum and not them, thus preventing a potential pass.

I could be totally wrong in all this. I have never had any professional training in advanced race manuvering but if you use your head and good judgement you will be suprised what you can come up with =)

Anyone know any mods in RSC that are sympethetic to LFS'ers. My RSC account seems to be locked and I cannot post on anything. It's been like that for months, there is never really intersting on RSC to post about so I never did anything about it... Any ideas anyone?

Quote from Vykos69 :

well, some more infos and stats on the event:

This first intel racing tour ran for more than a year, with:

- ~ 170 days opened
- ~ 25000 participants.
- ~ 10 finalists, place 2-9 won PCs (different stuff in it)
- ~ Place 1: BMW M6, used, ~worth 60-80k euros. And driven once by Nick Heidfeld

The final was done in a short warmup, a qualifying of 10 minutes and a race of 15 laps (including 2times 2 laps of pacecar, do give spun out guys a chance again). Danny was slow throughout whole warmup and qualifying, nils nailed pole until last minute of Q, then Danny ensured the pole. Through the race, nils wasnt more than 2 secs away from Danny, and simon stange was all the time right behind them, up to last 2laps, when first simon spun out (comment by Nick Heidfeld: "Oooooh, that was close, a shame, now he spun, but he's not in your team, right?" - Me: "No" - N.H.:"Well, then it's not that bad" ) and then Nils attacked with all his skill he could give to get Danny. Out of last corner Danny had enough room and went for the win. Hell break loose and the rest is just a big Hollywoodmovieparty

Anything else? Hmm, the champagne this evening spent was prolly more expensive than the M6, nils ate a glass of beer, we had one hell of a good party and I'm a full time Nick Heidfeld fan now, knowing that he's a racer from head to toe, watched our LFS guys racing with full interest, he even put me to situations: "Watch, now they are side by side". After the first two minutes of talking he fastly realised that we have some kind of idea of what he's doing out there really. All respect to him for also giving Danny the ride of his Life.

Haha awesome!! =) Grats to Danny =) What an amazing win =)

Quote from Vykos69 :

He hadnt time to test it, I just told him about it, and he respects it. More interesting was Vettels quote on his rfactor experience in Melbourne:

than his face went a bit and his hands were waving around. He didnt want to say sh*t, but lets say, it was a bit "floaty" :P

Hehe =)

John Sjostrand
"Info to use when inviting someone:
I have just started Autosimsport season III, private game. This time with A1 GP. Feel free to join us!

http://batracer.com/-cj?&D&13247

Alternativly, you can select "private games" from the menu and enter the number "13247" into the box. The game password is "monkey". Take care not to accidentally join a public game by mistake."

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I recognised you from the Post Your Face thread.

Cute kids. Bozo's wife must be really pretty.

Edit: Did that clown Madman actually win? I am totally coming next time.

Yeah he did =) Everyone ran great races =) I went into the last race leading the points but fell to a rollover and just plain horrible driving.

LFS feels very different with a big screen and on top of that both madman and myself were running on the other side of the car so getting used to it made things difficult. My problem was I had a phone call from my wife before the last race started or was it during the second quali I don't remember... anyways she reammed me a new one for running late (like it's my fault) and it just completely threw me off.

Pete and Andrew deserved their spots, I am just wondering if I deserved mine =) Great racing lets do it again =)

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Which means I might have had a chance of winning, competing with what? 10 drivers?

That would mean you would have to stop perfecting your rollover manuvers first...

Quote from Rooble :

Flying to England for a one day event, isn't that a little extreme for a 14 year kid?

Well I was understanding that he was coming to visit a relative (sister?) and that it just happened to be when the race was being held. Sorry you couldn't make it. =/

Quote from LFSn00b :

Oh well... Burn it, flame it, kill it, i'm just an idiot 14 year old who didn't show up.

Live and Learn =) Hope to see you ther next time =0

I have been mulling over the idea of setting up a mini league for this that would run once a month or so. This is just an idea, but it's worth a try. I think it would work out well =)

Quote from csurdongulos :

low 52's you mean?
but actually it was a mixture of mid-high 51's and low 52's, for the front runners in the race.

Hehe yeah thats what I meant =)

I will have to agree with Becky here, by the end of the feature your mind is wore out from all the racing. You will probably hear people saying "well it doesn't effect me like that" but then if it's not there is still a reserve left and they could push harder than they are.

Mentally by the end of the session I am exhausted and my reactions are not as quick as they were in the beginning during quali so I make more mistakes.

Saying that I feel that in all of LFS this chicane is one of the hardest corners to get fast consistantly, in order to get it fast you have to virtually brush the car on each of the 4 points of the corners to get it as fast as possible, with the addition of the railroad track upsetting the car it's extremely tricky to rotate the car at maximum slip angle safely without running the chance of sliding wide and clipping a few barriers.

Then people would have said "well you should have gone slower" well thats true you could have like in Sam's case. But then your lap times are affected because everyone else is trying to put in as fast of laps as possible pushing you to do the same if you want to be in the top spots. The one thing that the broadcasts are not really showing is the lap times the front drivers were putting in. Regular lap times were in the low 42's throughout the whole night. Making for about 80-90 laps of the most intense racing you will ever have. (Not by any means saying that STCC has the most intense league enviorment, but it's definatly up there)

This is one of the most hazardous corners in LFS IMO and having an accident rate of less than 1% is awesome for a corner that has no room for error, not even an inch if your trying to your fastest lap possible, everything HAS to be spot on, your entry braking, throttle input, steering input, one of these off even a little bit will earn you at least a brush on the wall or a nice drift in the easiest case, all costing you time.

Quote from Motordirex :

Im talking with two US drivers at the moment working out the details for next seasons STCC.

I thank all the inquiries from other US drivers, and urge them to keep coming because you never know what can happen before next season.

One can only hope =)

Quote from SamH :

I see from the above list, nobody's leaked what we call her on Teamspeak when she's not in there

Hehe =)

Awesome! Thanks Adrian =)

I had great fun =) I will definatly go again. It was nice to see everyone in the flesh for a good change and chat about their lives without having to mash keys on a keyboard to do so! I can't wait for the next one! =)

The venue itself was very good and everyone was professional.


GPL was a welcomed experience. Having never touched GPL in my life I would definatly try it again.

The races themselves were a blast. LFS feels so different on a big screen like that. I suppose it was another big difference for me because all the driving was done on the right hand portion of the car when I am used to the left.

I had a fun day. I ran into problems the last race that ruined my chances of going for the top spot in the standings but I still had great fun and met alot of people that I have seen online for years.

Thanks for setting this up Ben and I hope you think of doing it again! =)

I think the biggest thing everyone needs to focus on is

HAVE FUN!!!!!


forget times, they are going to change when we all hop into those simulators anyways...

Heh whats new, I am always behind of the program...

oops, I forgot... I was just going by the latest race figures for a month, not total downloads.... Shame on me =P

Quote from Tweaker :

Not a bad idea imo...

LOTA is North America's best league at the moment Filled with US drivers/teams. But I guess he wants exposure through the broadcasts Though more attention from American players is drawn towards LOTA.

I would definatly agree here =)

Problem is even though LOTA is based in the US when you compaire STCC viewing figures to any other league there is no compairision to the number of eyes that catch with whatever your trying to promote. Even if 10% of the downloaders came from the US (which is probably closer to at least 20-30%, I don't know for sure) thats roughly 4k viewers a month coming from the US downloading the broadcast, not including people that watch the braodcasts via Google Video and U-Tube.

I just came back from the DVLA. They wouldn't register it on the spot but my wife was paid yesterday and I will be paid next week so I will have the money to go and to afford the rental car another week while the security system is being installed.

Everything is fine on my end again and I will see you all tomorrow =)

Quote from SamH :

Only a Canadialandish person would think that a BMW with LHD was a British vid! LOL! I thought it was just Dustin that thought this way

lol =)


Hey I drive a LHDer in the UK =)

Grats =)

Quote from Fordman :

Easiest answer to that one, is nobody knows, so do what we are all doing and stick around and wait and see

Anything to do with STCC licensing please use the STCC site, Thank You =)

FYI Dustin I have asked people to move these to the STCC site on virtually every thread so I have no idea where you came up with that idea =)

Well hopefully it will be 78. Muroc is trying to get the people together. =)