well i agree with kid, its nonsense that this kind of thing is posted, every time i look on these forums i see the most incredible posts (of course repeated a bazillion times either here or on rsc). seriously now if you turn off the sound in lfs doesnt it give you some more fps??? now if you turn off all the eye candy, aa, af and whatnot there is more fps??? i wonder if ther will be even more if i flip that button in my pc...