Quote from The Very End :

Sorry, muhaa, I first want to say that I have nothing against you or anything, but I don`t think the danger of this exploid is any big, and I really... well I don`t trust you that much By looking on the other topics..well..

a bit off topic but
It's always hard to trust someone like him I think.

This is just my speculation and it's not him like he said!!!.

It' s just like lots of users seem to use all the same name,
http://forums.devshed.com/php- ... orm-generator-420709.html
spelling errors (haw)
http://forums.devshed.com/c-pr ... ting-to-linux-439129.html
and not use much of punctuation.
http://forums.devshed.com/php- ... orm-generator-420709.html

Some of these users were banned at RSC for trying to bring trojans to the people in Nov 2005
http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?p=2760808#post2760808
http://209.85.135.104/search?q ... t=clnk&cd=2&gl=de

That the muhaa here joined in Dec 2005. Must be just another coincident of course.

But he told us his name in the hacking scene is n00b not muhaa.
So it's just another coincident the this noob there uses muhaa as a PW or things like "Pmsl"
http://www.binrev.com/forums/i ... d&start=0#entry266293
and sees himself as a black hat
http://www.binrev.com/forums/i ... p=264116&#entry264116
but this guy there is not hacking anymore he is now just an exploit dev (what a coincident hehe).

Looks like that all users who call themself muhaa spell how as haw
Have the same interests don't use much punctuation have something to do with coding exploits etc
Haw funny is that.

So many fortuities and I found many more but everyone should decide that for himself.

Last edited by BBO@BSR, Tue 14 Aug 2007, 19:23.

Quote from Shotglass :

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I just saw your avatar.
Omg I can't stop laughing.
Nice edit :ices_rofl

Quote from AndroidXP :

Though while the majority of the users here are probably intelligent enough not to get fooled by malicious replays, this is really no argument for taking these exploits too lightly...

Ok true
but
as you said it "it's just a simple buffer overflow".
Then it's also no argument to make something that BIG out of it, some try here for quite some time.

About your speculations:
I guess you are right

Quote from muhaa :

Omfg you guy's are missing the whole point.There are people who actually open spr and mpr file's on this forum.Just because your not one of them.Any security problem in the softwear is worth fixing any way's im sure the developer's have alot more to contend with than these at the moment.\

And the ply file was thrown in to get fixed while i was at it.Look if your going to post flame's don't bother your actually putting others at risk because they cant get to read it before the mod's close the thread as soon as ego tripper's start to throw there weight about

If you would only read posts more attentively then you would have seen that I'm downloading .mpr file from here and from other sources.

And btw No one is going to post flames here.
I did not even talked to you in my post.

But what you don't get is, that it is not the big deal that you tried to tell the people here in the past.
You got your attention and it will be fixed. That's it.

People like you who's only interest is obviously just to get attention from the community with things like "i reported this before it was released" and the "" icon that should suggest that you know much more about it and about bigger more dangerous flaws etc. Only placed into posts to frighten people "gehn mir echt auf den Sack" (translate it yourself).

And if the thread starter would have read the forum more often then he would have known that it was already said that it will be fixed in the next patch/patches and that the Testpatch forum is only visible when there are testpatches around.

Much ado about nothing imo

Last edited by BBO@BSR, Tue 14 Aug 2007, 16:35. Reason : typo

Quote from Crazy Harry :

Some people use it everywhere. Single- and Multiplayer. Also we got a few cheated hl´s in the past.

We had that a few times, right.
But everytime this happend in the past the Devs did something against it.
So I bet it won't be different this time.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Nah, I don't think you have to worry about it really. I reckon the chances of getting something from this issue is so tiny it's not worth worrying about.

I'll take my chances. I'll watch any replay I want thank you.

A few 12 year old hackers trying to annoy people doesn't scare me.

I totally agree Tristan.

btw.
Who is downloading or sharing .ply files for LFS?
I never did in all those years.

.spr files come from LFS world or from my own hotlaps.

And .mpr files are usually only interesting when I want to see leagues races. And the people there are trustworthy. and the rest is self recorded.

So not really a big danger for most of us.

Quote from Takumi_lfs :

aaaand what do you mean with unstable??
i play games with fastwrite and it is fine?

as I said some can run it without problems, other do have an unstable system soon.

Unstable means in this case i.e the games crashes for "no reason".
I experienced it myself with 2 systems, I had only problems when it was turned on but I had also other PCs and it ran fine.

So it really depends on what chipset, grafixcard, cpu you have to let it run without problems. Just google for it there are plenty of sources and post about problems with it and also bigger testing sites like "Tom's Hardware" had experienced problems with it.

So be lucky that it runs for you, but that doesn't mean it's always like this

Fast Writes is an Intel thing but VIA also used it.
Then they went to the court for 2 years http://www.abanet.org/antitrus ... _property/feb1report.html.


Fast Writes should send "gfx data" directly to the gfx-card without taking the way through the Ram first.
So it brings just a very little performance boost and with some OpenGL-Games you loose performance (and it makes AMD systems in many cases unstable)

In most cases you should turn it off when you got an AMD board.

But you can try it yourself.
Some can run it without problems, other do have an unstable system soon.

Last edited by BBO@BSR, Sun 12 Aug 2007, 16:42.

Quote from Bladerunner :

I expect just about everybody on the interwebs has already seen this

Not me

The for sharing.
Amazing vid

The Asus M2N32-SLI deluxe and M2N-E (same soundchip ADI 1988 iirc) are well known for their problems with the onboard sound.
Some driver versions have the problem others don't.
Maybe try different versions of the sound drivers.

I don't think it's an LFS problem. But

Last edited by BBO@BSR, Thu 9 Aug 2007, 22:54.

Quote from Töki (HUN) :

Yes, but it's normal in this Cup. You can see a LOT of damaged cars. These guys are crazy

I know (saw it) I just thought it was a funny wordplay

Quote from RevengeR :

Looks like he Kissed another car with it

Quote from J.B. :

Compilation of this years VIP driver race results:

Hungaroring: Norbert Kiss (Seat Cup, LFS) 17
Nürburgring: Frank Biela (DTM champion) 18
Silverstone: Derek Wawrick (F1) 27
Barcelona: Miguel Angel de Castro (Spanish GT/Porsche) 10

Not bad, eh?

Now he moved up to P16 in the results
(dunno why but good for him )
http://www.racecam.de/index.ph ... nen&rid=79&sid=18

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Quote from Jakg :

This thread does need removing though....

Nah this problem need to be sorted out by Scawen.

But if someone is doing it. It is clearly cheating. and unsportsmanlike. On our Teamservers we would ban everyone who is cought acting like this.

But I think it is only relevant in league races and the replays there will usually be watched. So it's not really a big problem imo.

Congratz Norbi.

Great racing
(btw. 1 of the takeovers shown from his onboard looked exactly like in LFS , a bit to the left then brake earlier then pass him on the right. Who said playing sim games is a waste of time :razz

Great job

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I like how when an LFS racer turns up in motorsport he's "our boy" and nationality doesn't make any difference any more. It's quite sweet when you think about it.

I totally agree.

Good luck

Quote from Aquilifer :

Hmmmm... (let's see if I can still read those)... So you have an error from the processor, saying it cannot recognise the value in the code register to be a legal command.

Yeah something like an illegal instruction at task adress 0000080t

Mine will have something like that on it:

Just to show that this kind of crashes happen more then once.

Happend a few minutes ago today.

End of Lap1 (3rd last corner)
He (puma) bumped me (BBO) out of the corner without touching me.

He said his was listening to internet radio during racing
(looks like that caused the lag and the crash)

Quote from Aquilifer :

Maybe. But...I have always thought LFS would display the car 2 in a place where it thinks it is. This replay was filmed in car1(?), so if the lfs in the client car 1 thought that car 2 hit it, then why doesn't it show the car 2 in such a place that the hit would be visible?

I have no idea but if we would see the car hitting/touching the other car then we wouldn't have this topic here because then it would be obvious who was hit by whom

i.e.
I personaly had a crash where someone "rammed me" in a league race at full speed when I braked for a turn.
Watching the replay showed he was more then 20 meters away from me (but lagging) and never touched me but I also had damage on the back of my car (like when he hitted me) etc.

I checked my replay, his replay and the replays other players had taken but in none of the replays was he hitting me (it was just the "hit by a ghost car" effect).

Good for him but
to bad he didn't get a seat in a real competitive car where he could really show his talent.

If seen and experienced something like that before.

I call it "hit by a ghost car"

Because of (also little) lag LFS thinks the car (#2. in the pic who was lagging a bit) is still there.
But in reality the car was already somewhere else (#3. in the picture)
So the "Ghost" (#2.) of the real car touched you (#1) and caused the "crash".

Quote from The Very End :

And I just bumped this topic to say that Mayo now have been caught for using illegal drugs / dope in the tour.
What a shame, and what a worthless thing to show on the TV. If I see Tour De France on my TV next year I`m going to flip, because 5-6 hours of this crap each day is just stupid, speically when it`s just a mayor dope-fest!

And the winner Contador will also soon be caught.
This Tour was just the biggest sporting fake in history imo.

Well tbh it's hard enough to read english and if someone doesn't really care about typos etc. it's even harder to read for non-English people like me.

But the tenor of muhaa's posts really annoys me.

- Muhaa first you wasn't sure if the "bug" 100% exists
- Then people/mods told you to contact the Devs (usually the case was closed for the public now)
- Then you were sure the "bug" existed
- Then people told you again to contact the Devs (2nd time to close this case for the public)

-Then you try to threaten people/the devs? with things like

Quote from muhaa :

"...That's just a hand full that i've released due to vendor taking no notice"

and

Quote from muhaa :

"The dev's have 24 hour's then im releasing it"

and now in the end you

Quote from muhaa :

"don't want to talk to any one unless they have some programing or asm experiance"

TBH
If you really want to help the community (like you said) and to not look like a cheap attention whore, like you did.

Just send the infos about it and maybe your poc, if you now got one, to the devs and that's it. (others doing it exactly this way)

There is no need to act like "I'm the mega exploit dev and if no one is listening to me right here right now I'm making everything public.

Quote from muhaa :

That's what im talking about the kiddy mentality of some people.

Me too