Quote from Blade3562 :

Holy cow the beetle model is a million times better. I will buy one again.

It's the same model Luke the '66 1200 in GT5, which IIRC was a dlc pack car...

More fun in fotomode!

I think it is possible, but I didn't manage to do it yet. My best result is 3rd:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... V07g&feature=youtu.be

On a sidenote, the two new seasonal events have quite a nice payout, and they're pretty doable even for slowpokes like me.

Also, I really like that you see the driving line of the best friend in your list, that helps tremendously. So if anyone wants to add me, I'm ColeusRattus (d'uh) on PSN.

Might not be able to accept the request until tomorrow evening though.

Quote from Mysho :

hopefully one day Gran Turismo will come to Android / iOS...

Actually, Real Racing 3 is quite nice for that GT style racing itch, and it's free, allbeit a bit grindy if you don't want to shell out cash.

I'd love to see the a1 ring. Great vistas and quite a lot of elevation changes.

Quote from CheerioDM :

A G27 and no Forza 5?

IIRC the Logitech Wheels are not compatible with the Xbox360...

Yeah. I preferred to use the cockpit view, but in GT6, they render the windscreen from inside too, so especially in the the standard cars, the view's way to dark to drive properly on anything but well lit tracks. So I too use the bumper cam.

And here are some photo mode pictures. Also, I tried to take comparable Standard Car pictures in GT6 and 5 to take a look at the improvements, and they are better than expected, allthough thanks to the restrictive photo mode on standard cars in GT5, they're harder to make out than in game. I noticed mesh updates (3D grille vs. flat texture, exhaust pipe), Bump maps (door creases) and overall sharper textures.

Last edited by ColeusRattus, Wed 11 Dec 2013, 12:51.

Honestly, whoever thought that knocking over cones, especially in the moon, is fun deserves a proper kick in the balls...

Last edited by ColeusRattus, Tue 10 Dec 2013, 17:04.

Caved in and bought it.

First Impressions: drives better than GT5, and I notice that the cars behave quite a lot less erratically under braking than in GT5.

And I found the goodwood festival of speed rediculously easy on all three cars. It's almost impossible not to get gold when you manage to get through the course without ramming any bariers.

Hm, just play. IIRC, Winning Deathmatches nets you quite a lot of RP, as do coop missions.

The tech demo is awesome. runs silky smooth on maxed out settings (2 year ld i7, 4 gigs of ram, GeForce 460 GTX)

While I do apreciate a good discussion, I agree that this thread is not the place for it.

Quote from BlueFlame :

My point is that in the court of law they will and do use their race in a defence case. It's just how the world works now.

So how many court cases have you followed in detail that you can make a sound general assumption? Note: reading/hearing about some in right-wing newsmedia doesn't really count. Also, media tend to report things that are out of the ordinary, so if it were the rule, they wouldn't report it.

Quote from BlueFlame :

Coleus you're basically suggesting that it's ok for people to do dishonest activities because the government has failed them? Or are you just allowing them they priviledge because of their skin colour?

Nope, no extra privileges for skin colour. I would be content if they had the same privileges I have because of my skin colour.
And yeah, it is well within the responsibilities of governements to make it possible for everyone to earn "an honest living".

Quote from BlueFlame :

It's very stupid to blame a government practice for someones bad behaviour. Behaviour is still down to the individual choice.

That's a fallacy widely believed modern western societies. While choice is A factor, it isn't THE ONLY factor in it. There are lot's of other factors, like wealth, social status of your family, your environment, etc. that influence the very choices you can make. And yes, in extreme cases there can be only external factors that limit your options to "commit crimes or starve".

Quote from BlueFlame :

There is a matter of fact that in the current social status people of certain ethnicity are persecuted unfairly but on the contrary people of the same ethnicity use their race as a get of a jail free card. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't, but they still do it and it's a fact.
It's nothing against those individuals, if you're facing jail time you'll say and do anything to get off the hook as any one of us would but there's no point ignoring the reality of it to suit some hippie world, where white people are the worst people unquestionably because of our past and we must all live in a big green field having a tea party and jerking each other off.

That's just absurd. White people are not bad per se, just as black people are not criminals per se. I think it would be best if we tried to abolish those prejudiced concepts of race alltogether and regard ourselves just as people. There are "good" and "bad" ones in every crop (allthough I also reject the philosophy of moral absolutes like good or bad. What's what depends solely on the perception of others, and noone except sociopaths would deem themselves bad with a good consciousness)

Quote from BlueFlame :

rant
We don't just look different to each other black from white, we behave different too. There's really no point ignoring the reality of this but when you live in Austria the kind of black people you're gonna get there are adopted into white society by parents who couldn't have kids of their own. So they won't behave like the black people would in Harlem or Croydon for instance.

That's paradoxical. Blacks and whites are different, yet black people behave like white people if brought up the same way? The latter is what I try to get across. If all people had the same chances from the start, there would be no problem with migrants, "or ethnic minorities"
Also, you're mistaken. Most people of African descent I know, and who are visible in our society are asylum seekers. Many of those are stuck in the process of getting asylum for several years, with accomodation that's about as comfortable and "free" as prisons. If I came to a society that would treat me like a criminal from the get go, I would not have anything to lose by actually becoming one. Especially when I'm not allowed to work.

Quote from BlueFlame :

You notice a big difference between people such as yourself and people such as I. You probably live in a house of 4 to 5 bedrooms in a small town full of hardworking white native Austrians.

You're wrong. I live in a two room flat in Austrias second biggest city, with nigerian, ugandan, chinese, romanian, croatian, bosnian, alban and turkish families living in the same house. I struggled with unemployment and precarious working conditions, and am still slowly crawling out of the debt that accumulated from those years. Now I work a job in social work and I study at a university 100 miles away.

Quote from BlueFlame :

I come from a place where minorities are growing bigger and bigger causing more and more tension (what ever the cause of the trouble may be it still happens to be revolving around them). I've been there in this country when black people roamed the street looting the place in the UK whilst white folk hid in their homes fearing for their lives. I've also been there to diffuse situations of a racial nature, [bullying at school etc] where white teens were beating down on a black boy purely on race.

Very commendable of you.
And concerning the riots: it could be interpreted as a group of the populace with nothing to lose trying to get a bit from those with a lot to lose. Now I won't proclaim that's the one true way to look at it, but it's definately not limited on individual choice to act "badly"

Quote from BlueFlame :

We have different opinions. Funny that isn't it. One has had contact with other social groups and the other hasn't. Yet you sit there from afar saying how black people are treated badly. You're in another social world. You really have no room to comment here. In total how many black people have you even SEEN in person? Never mind how many have you met. You could probably count it on one hand right?

Again, you're wrong. I make my living in social work. While not working with immigrants per se right now, I work with youths who are partly from other backgrounds. So I dare say I have probably not a lot less to do with people from the "rim" of society than you do, except that I am priveleged not to be part of that rim.

Quote from BlueFlame :

I know your type of person and you think you can judge other white people because you think you understand society in an intelligent way, when in reality you just don't have a clue. There's so many issues socially to one extent you could just say 'white society and black society at large, just don't mix' and you'd be right.

I can't argue against the first sentence, you're right there. But as I study social work and sociology ATM, I try to grasp those problems on an intellectual level. Thus, I might have other (but not neccessarily better) insights on the whole issue as you do.
But concerning "black and white societies don't mix", I have to disagree. They can and do mix very well, but it needs two things, one of which is often forgotten, especially by populistic media and badly educated people. First, as pointed out quite often, there needs to be the willingness to integrate with the dominating society. But secondly, and that's what is usually not publicized, because it would lay some blame for the problems on the reading demographic, the dominating society must also be willing to integrate the new arrivals, and provide the means for them to do so.

Quote from BlueFlame :

I apologize for going a bit mental but your demeanor on these type of a subjects really pisses me off. You think you have some kind of a valid opinion. You're from Austria where it's most likely 1000 white to 1 black and because you met 3 black guys in college you think that you understand it socially.

No need to apologize. I understand that you're frustrated with the chances life has presented to you. It's just that hating on people for any arbitrary reason like skin colour, religion, nationality, gender, etc., doesn't solve anything.

Last edited by ColeusRattus, Fri 22 Nov 2013, 08:09.

I don't see the point. I never glitched and made money honestly, but as soon as I had the Entity XF in my garage (of the high end apartment), the motivation to play diminished quite a lot. So for me, a lot of the fun was working towards those goals. Had i used glitches, or grinded the races excessively, I would've robbed myself of the main enjoyment.

Quote from BlueFlame :

And tell me, what black person/people have you heard of that get arrested in a predominantly white country and DON'T use their race as an issue?

I have yet to encounter a single person of another ethnicity to actually "use the race card". Let alone "using" it to get out of jail "free", as in with the charges dropped and no trial because of it.

What I do encounter here though are both people of other ethnicities being put under a general suspicion by an unknowledgable and oftentimes badly educated public AND a system that doesnt allow many of them to get honest work.

Quote from BlueFlame :

Well I'll tell you right now a wheel has no bearing on grip whatsoever. I mean... that's the reality..

I do know the difference between a wheel and a tire. It's just that the different wheels (titled as such in game) in GTA 5 come with different tires. Thus, the wheel choice is also a tire choice. But, still strictly in game speaking, this choice has no influence on the car handling characteristics.

Poor flame bait.

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

it has loads of grip if you put Tuner wheels on it

I don't think the wheels alter the handling/grip in any way... they're purely cosmetic.

Not my purchases per se, but I was gifted them for my recent birthday.

Manpurse for hauling university stuff:


Useless Gadget I spent much too much time with:

See, I do like the missions and the racing. And while I do save up for purchases in game, I actually enjoy playing it just for the sake of playing.

And on a sidenote, my two newest cars. An Ubermacht Oracle and a Merryweather Canis Mesa:

And in the meantime, my Elegy RH8 is complete. Was looking for a mroe subdued approach, but then decided to eff it and go with the colors of my crew logo:

The newest edition to my garage:


It's surprising how few players have a customzied bike. So with this fully tuned Akuma, I won almost every "Down the Drains" and "Criminal Records" I took part in (where custom vehicles were allowed and catchup was disabled). It accelerates so devilishly fast that it is past slipstream range before anyone can accelerate enough to keep up. Love it.

My Sandking is complete:


And ACCAkut, supposedly, there will be a patch next week which will make it possible to design own races. Looking forward to that.

I don't understand the need to grind in this game. I just play it for fun, not as a job. It might take me longer to reach certain goals (got my apartment after about 60 hours of online play, as I spent most of my money on my cars and weapons), but I have fun doing so, playing missions I like to play rather than doing those with the highest payout...

Got myself a proper apartment finally, slowly starting to build up my car collection. Here's what I got so far:

My first car, a Sabre:


My "Ghost of Mt. Akina" Karin Futo:


My Freebie Elegy H8 (unmodded):


My Sandking XL, which can fit 6 people (unmodded):


And last but not least, my take on The Bandit's firebird, my Phoenix:


And here's all of them plus my mug:

Last edited by ColeusRattus, Fri 25 Oct 2013, 07:09.