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Quote from Gunn :

When asked what went wrong he said that he couldn't quite put his finger on it.

whats with the white lines on the softs lol, i know people didnt like the dots on the sides but guys, the white lines are a bit overkill haha

Quote from TiJay :

Yeah, I'm sticking with the default NASCARs on my game, can't be bothered to try the mods and modded physics usually have dodgy bits (like most arrTractor mods).

thats more isi/rfactor games that have the dodgey mods than does nr2k3, as it doesnt really have that many. the pwf ones were done very well (trans am is my fav) but thats about it, GTP was never finished really.


expect nr2k3 to drop in price after iracing releases their new game though

Quote from X-Ter :

IRF was your baby? I never got it to work, but many in the oval community praised it a lot, and I can understand why. Heat needs another tool like that to connect racers these days.

I was an admin on there, we had a really tight community on there of racers, those were neat days, now these communities are so large it seems a little less..personal I suppose

Quote from al heeley :

here's the nkp screenie, where's the sunglasses?

I think the problem lies in the fact there is no variance, its the same level of brightness everywhere, makes everything look like its in 2d


also the texture repetition and skewing in areas are atrocious, from a track makers perspective lol

Quote from JTbo :

Why you think to know what you know?

Sure it can be much better than sugar coating, but it is that typical style how they have put things on their web pages that sounds this huge alarm bell next to my ear and that certainly puts me away from it until there is demo which I can test to get feel how it really is.

I don't even trust anyone saying from it as people have certain problems when describing subjective things to others, so I certainly need to experience thing myself, until then I will be very suspecting that it will be good, pessimist does not get disappointed, right?

this is very true haha, I guess I just trust these guys more than the ini goons

Quote from X-Ter :

And what about Nascar Heat, and especially mods for it. That sim keeps me just as busy as LFS does. And it's a heck of a lot better than anything coming from EA

haha! funny that you mentioned that

i actually worked/played with heat up until 04, IRF was the shit

Quote from X-Ter :

I can't believe you seriously consider supporting a company that fracked over an entire modding community? Ok, so they changed their name from First to iRacing, but that doesn't fool anyone. Or does it?

as one of the modders of the nr2k3 modding community, i supported them the whole way through.

NR2k3 would have been ruined by open modding anyway...they let us do just enough to keep us entertained, without ruining the game for us, or them.


and trust me guys, its more than your normal ISI sugar coating job on the physics engine, they dont do garbage like that...trust me....

*please dont start asking why i think i know what i know*

Quote from RockBottomWalsh :

well to be fiar Liuzzi hasnt really shown a great advantage over speed but scott has shown some strange judgement. for instance why in melbourne did he not just continue to the pits and change the tyre when he had that puncture? very strange

you gota figure some of that is poor team management, its hard for a driver to learn, when the whole team is learning at the same time

Quote from George Kuyumji :

You should have been more precise with the Options.

Under "NASCAR", alot of people think you might mean the EA Sports "NASCAR" Game, but others might think you mean the "NASCAR" Racing Simulation by Papyrus which is still used today from Professionell NASCAR drivers as a Training Tool.

I guess we just have to hope LFS players are smart enough to realize ea games arent sims haha, and i trust they are

maan..harshness on the speedster

I'm still a diehard nascar 2003 player, mostly road course racing though. I own/run a site dedicated to track making for it and thats what really keeps me interested, I really enjoy that part.

2-3 months without a blowout is an accomplishment not a disgrace haha!

Its what's on the inside that counts ..

and duke, thats been debated on here before, mostly its due to cost, lack of any noteable advantage, and heratige.

Race went pretty well, couple broken brackets on the splitter, and i'd like to see the decklid with the wing secured a bit better, but the racing was the same, but you could race semi trucks around bristol and it would be the same :P real test will be at pheonix/dover

The drivers said it drafted more stabely (actual drafting) and handling wise they are only a tenth or two off the old pace a bristol (which isnt a good testing bed) and well ugly, it'll take some getting used to.

The whole grid hating it? nah, its main focus is saftey, no driver wants to be less safe eh?


although i am pretty darn tired of hearing about it, cant wait till everyone is just over it lol

Dodge struggled their first year too...even after CTS success...

*also don't forget, nascar makes the manufactures run a completly differnt block/head package for cup than truck, so its not like they could just throw a bigger carb on it and go to town, they are now building another completly new engine package*

Last edited by DodgeRacer, Sat 24 Mar 2007, 02:34. Reason : added info

Quote from undertech :

There're SO many other games out there that allow wanton modding like the aforementioned (and super awful) Street Legal, why don't the complainers go to any one of those games instead of crying here? (time and again, it seems like.)


Hint: They like this game for what it is. Yes, deep down, they do. That's a good sign wouldn't you all say?

my guess is because they realize this is the best sim out there currently, and want to have the best platform to mod off of, to an outsider its probably very confusing this whole no modding thing

while were on the subject..

sequential shifters, with the momoblack i have always done up for downshift down for upshift, it just seems to come natural to me, and i swear thats how i saw it done in wrc..yet in our saab its just the opposite, and the same with most street "manumatics"

i just wish more people in the sim community respected it, i dont think its very well understood judging by peoples reaction to it outside of the lfs community

Quote from Shotglass :

how do you achieve a front/rear torque split anyway ?

i too have wondered that

thats why i'm asking maybe i'll try PM'ing one of the devs directly. I wouldn't dare use anything they wouldn't want me using

actually im looking to go the other way lol, i want to use scavier's textures in nr2k3, wondering if thats "legal"

I know the car files are open to use in any game, but are the track surface DDS files open? I'd like to use a couple of them on a nascar 2003 track i'm making, they did such a fine job of getting textures, and I've pretty much used all the ones available in that game lol.


Thanks,

Dodge

ps
man do I every wish we could track editing in lfs, i enjoy it for nr2k3 so much its pretty much the only reason I still play it

Quote from mrodgers :

And just for the record, I was pulling for Martin to lose, LOL. I was pulling for him for a championship 2 years ago when he called that his last season, now he just needs to retire and give it up. He's only racing in hopes to win a champ, not because he wants to race like my favorite, Ken Shrader .

And where at in PA are you? I'm up on I-80 above Pittsburgh (or below Erie, if you'd like ).

i question that, everyone seems to say martin loves to race, he always says he loves to race and he seems to mean it...why else would he be doing a part time season?