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A rather classic front[-mid] engined rear wheels driven roadster was run on a very short configuration in Rockingham this tuesday and it turned into a touring car style bumper to bumper racing as not many escaped the race without any marks on either front or rear bumper. The Handling configuration did not offer much overtaking opportunities,so drivers had to be patient and use the best chances,occasionally overforcing the issue,however no protests were made,so the hottest things in the race were not tempers but rear tyres - being balanced slightly to the rear,the car deffinitelly had plenty of load to rear tyres.

In Race Green discord server a topic was raised about drivers with same amount of wins as their starts and there are still 3 such drivers,2 of those with single race win from their single race start. The only multirace winner with perfect score is J.Holmes,who won 3 races in late year of 2012,today he returned to RTFR after more than 11 years break and guess what - he kept his perfect score alive! The englishman picked up a clean sweep of achievements from this race,scoring his 4th RTFR race win after leading all 39 laps,3rd pole position,4th fastest lap of the race and 4th top5 finish from 4 starts. The strongest competitor to race winner was his well known rival in many other series - M. The lithuanian lost out just by 0.05 seconds in qualifying and made a strong presence in race leader's mirrors,however the chances for race win were rather non existant and current 2024 season 1 standings and 15 race rating leader had to settle for 2nd place finish,which is his 20th top5 finish. Last step on the virtual podium was taken by Unite,who scored his 79th top5 finish repeating his best result of the season,closelly followed by his teammate in 4th position R.Kardol who scored his 91st top5 finish. The top5 consisted only of previous race winners this time,5th being the only single race winner TJ,who added the 7th top5 finish to his stats.

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Next week the server will be handed over to RandomCar - 4th round of the season will be run in South City using Chicane Route in reversed direction. But in 2 weeks normal RTFR will return with one of the LFS's own slick tyre wearing cars,which will be run on rather long and very challenging track,more details as always in the weekend before the race. But in 3 weeks next RTFR XL will be held in other very long track - Kyoto International which is just 100 meters short of 10 kilometers lap length. The car for the challenge will be the 1st returning mod of RTFR XL - FXO V8Supercar,however the return part is a bit questionable as the car has changed quite a lot since it's first run in december 2022 - neither setups or skins will be usable for the updated car. The combo will be set up shortly in RTFR server for laptime testing - as always we need to know best possible lap for distance calculation.
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A reminder - server will be password protected 1 hour before qualifying start to keep not knowing crowded server jumpers out of way,pass will be always the same: green

Some historic stats:
Last race won by: S1DUS*Final Boss
Last VSI-V2000 race won by: 1st race using this car
Last Rockingham race won by: B2マ M (324th RTFR - FERA 488 GT3 @ RO ISSC Long)
Most Rockingham infield configs race wins: S1DUS*Botsi & S1DUS*GáboR - 2 wins (Finland - 5 wins)
Current rating leader: B2マ M (+1.5 points)

2024-S1 standings after 7 of 12 races:
B2マ M - 194
S1DUS*R.Kardol - 150
S1DUS*uNite - 140
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Server link: Ronys Tuesdays Fun Race
Race Green Discord: https://discord.gg/E37R5vD
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The voting between 2024 rounds 3 and 4 results in addition of rather rare sports version of 80ies saloon car,in LFS known under name FREUD SERRA. With it's original power it is just a tick too fast,so it will start it's journey in RandomCar with 1 percent intake restriction. It is the 15th car in the largest drivetrain layout field of FR (front engine - rear wheel drive) and 35th overall (3 are currently still suspended).
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Quote from Gutholz :The logo is slightly different from the original Seat logo: It is missing the diagonal line.

Interestingly today I saw a Seat on street,which had exactly the same logo - so there are versions without the additional diagonal line out there.
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* PENALTIES :
SGマ MadJester - receives 10.07 seconds penalty added to his finish time for minimum pit time violation.

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The LFS's own Catherham version is actually the fastest road legal car of LFS - only in terms of curved racetracks of course. 190 horsepower might not sound a lot,but coupled with very light chassis,the car reaches power to weight ratio of proper supercar. And this car was properly set to test this tuesday in South City's Chicane Route,where the 1 minutes 10 seconds lap had plenty of challenges each time around and many drivers had trouble dealing with them.

The driver with an active winning streak was joined by his RandomCar main rival on front row and was accompanied by him half of the race long,but eventually the RTFR XL first timer J.Holmes retired leaving all the glory to M. The lithianian stretched his winning streak to 3 races,becoming 5th driver who was able to win 3 or more races in row. 5th is also his new all-time RTFR success rank - by scoring his 5th race win,7th pole position (tied 4th most) and 4th fastest lap of the race M overtook 2 drivers in the rank,additionally earning his 9th top5 finish. If one streak was carried further,another one was ended - R.Kardol came to this race as defending 2-time LX6 race winner,but found himself uncompetitive for main glory,finishing 2nd after rather dissapointing qualifying - 48th top5 finish for the dutchman. J.Lavrikov started 3rd and finished 3rd to score his 4th top5 finish while 4th was the last driver on lead lap - Unite also finished in same position he started from,reaching quarter-century count of top5 finishes. Best of the drivers not being able to complete full race distance was Thehemuli in 5th position - that is only his 2nd top5 finish,previous was on last race of previous year.

* FUN FACT OF THE MONTH :
Even if 24 drivers attending was not braking any records,the 23 drivers on grid is repeated largest number in all 5 RTFR XL races with LX6,but the finishers count of 20 is one more than previous highest. Interestingly the smaller LX brother has even higher attendance record (32 attendees) however races with LX4 never produced more than 19 finishers,so this race had the highest finishers count between both LX cars.

* CLOCK PITTER OF THE RACE :
...is yours truly - 10.11 seconds workfree pitstop was the best between the two without work,other one being just 0.04s longer. There was also one faster legal pitstop,however Unite refuelled the car.

* FIELD RUSHER OF THE RACE :
Madjester did not put a lot of effort in qualifying as he was only 21st,but in race found much more pace to finish 9th,making a 12 positions gain during the race.

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As long as there is winning streak,the combo selection will be given to 2nd place finisher (unless he is locked out too),this time it is R.Kardol - he still has not sumbitted his selection,so it's currently unknown what and where we will run in 4 weeks. But we know what we will race next week - you can get some clues from broadcast of previous normal RTFR or simply wait for weekend when full info will be posted. In 2 weeks racing will be turned a bit random once again - the 4th round of the season will use the same track as this race,just in other direction.
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Well,all the decisions are up to you - you have to decide for what purposes the car is and if you want to be it more like real counterpart or more own imagined version of model to fit the class. I just was pointing out the lack of competitivity regarding TBO class performance.
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https://www.lfs.net/files/vehmods/7F492C
This one? It was listed in previous 300km of Westhill.
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Many mods have derivatives allowed (like this one: https://www.lfs.net/files/vehmods/702A5D ) which means they are open to modification (you can download the original archive from that link). I just hope you can be more creative and don't do some power increase mod - there are way too many of those...
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Quote :Made to match with tbo class.

But it does not match with the TBO class - I'm checking all approved cars to be added in RandomCar lineup which is based on LFS TBO class performance (slightly lowered performance due balancing as FXO and XRT needs slowing down) and despite all my tries,this car was still 0.4 seconds off target pace in Blackwood GP track. I asked for testing in our discord server and few guys who tested could not overturn my decision of car being uncompetitive. And if it's "just" 0.4 seconds off hotlap pace,the real problems start with racing more than couple laps as the relativelly narrow tyres overheat more than those of other cars in the class.

Well,tyre width is one of the problems holding this car up,probably suspension type might be other one - probably trailing arm rear can be an obstacle of being competitive (must be confirmed by better setup creators) as all other cars with rear wheel drive have more advanced type.
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A reminder - server will be password protected 1 hour before qualifying start to keep not knowing crowded server jumpers out of way,pass will be always the same: green

Pitting rules:
Race requires a minimum time spent in pitstall of 10 seconds. That can be done either with single pitstop or sum of multiple pitstops. Driver who has spent less time will receive penalty time added to his finish time,which will be calculated by tripling the missing time to complete neccesary minimum time and adding additional 5 seconds. Drivers failing to pit at all will receive 1 minute penalty added to finish time (10s*3 + additional 30s).

Some historic stats:
Last race won by: B2マ M - 2 wins in row
Last LX6 race won by: S1DUS*R.Kardol - 2 wins in row (53rd RTFR XL - International w/o Chicane)
Most LX6 race wins: S1DUS*R.Kardol - 2 wins (Netherlands - 2 wins)
Last South City race won by: S1DUS*GáboR (71st RTFR XL - BF1 @ SO City Long)
Most South City race wins: S1DUS*Botsi - 5 wins (Finland - 8 wins)
Current rating leader: S1DUS*R.Kardol (+45 points)

2024 standings after 3 of 12 races:
B2マ M - 80
RGˆRony - 45
S1DUS*R.Kardol - 43
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Server link: Ronys Tuesdays Fun Race
Race Green Discord: https://discord.gg/E37R5vD
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In the very simple rules of RTFR and other RGE hosted series there is a rule [...]avoid any contacts with other cars[...]. When using cars with closed wheels,RGE usually makes an exception to allow bumpdrafting if done in safe way as bumper to bumper contact is realistic. However bumpdrafting with open wheel cars has always been a no-go as only LFS physics uncompleteness allows that,but actually is unrealistic,therefor not accepted. Unfortunatelly some decided to ignore that,so here's the result of that.

* PENALTIES :
[WCL] True Alpha - receives a warning for bumpdrafting.
B2マ TωϊnCΔm - receives 30 seconds penalty added to his finish time for bumpdrafting in multiple occasions.
B2マ Ayoub_MaRoC - receives a warning for bumpdrafting.
GT4tube - note. Allthough you were technically not breaking any rules, the idea of your behaviour is not understandable. RTFR racing is a competition where drivers normally yearn to achieve best possible result,so it's questionable if pitting almost every lap fits with spirit of competitional racing. No actual action will be taken against you,we're just hoping your behaviour in future won't pose a problem to people who actually are racing.

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The Formula XR,better known under it's abbreviation "FOX" is the most online used car of LFS besides all three demo cars,gaining it's popularity from it's rather low difficulty and relativelly high pace. The car run in Westhill's International configuration is considered quite a classic - there was even a throwback race few years ago in an older LFS version where International was still the only configuration of Westhill. During all these years and over 300 races this classic combo was never used in RTFR,this week we finally filled this gap with a typical 30+ minutes race with FOX in Westhill International. A total of 34 drivers were atracted to this event,one of them did not start,however all 33 starters completed the 50% distance requirement to be counted as finished,therefor setting a new RTFR finishing record - 100% with 33 finishers,beating 2 weeks ago set record of 100% with 28 finishers.

As usually having an official world record is a prerequisite of success also in online race. A racer previously known as Gábor under other name joined RTFR after missing 3 events and took another full set of achievements this tuesday. In both sessions mr F.Boss was the only one to beat 1:50 minutes laptime mark,scoring his 25th pole position and record tying 28th fastest lap of the race. Even if the 3 seconds gap over the finish line does not sound so convincing,the hungarian led all 18 laps (tying Botsi also for most races led at 39 a piece) to finish ahead of everyone else to score his 32nd RTFR race win and 58th top5 finish. His rather new teammate Zesty scored his best ever qualifying result - 2nd (improvement by a single position) in RTFR and kept the same position also when crossing the finish line to score his 8th top5 finish. Next 2 finishers represented the creators of FOX Junkies - Ohnifus repeated his best qualifying result and finished 3rd,scoring his 3rd top5 finish,his new teammate Rex also repeated his best qualifying result,but improved his previous best finishing result 12th to 4th place finish in his 3rd completed RTFR race. The 10th most successful driver in RTFR True Alpha completed the top5 with his 25th entry in it.

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In 2 weeks RTFR will return with a street legal car - as broadcaster said,it will be a "Miata type thing" (not an entirely correct assumption),more hints still can be heard from commentators - as always that's all the info you can get about next combo,full info will be posted in the weekend before the race. However next tuesday in RTFR XL we will be racing a "Catherham type thing" (which is closer to reality) - the LX6 has been selected to be raced in South City,full details about this race will be posted today. Another note from RGE - feel free to save the date of 19th may if you are interested to take on our annual challenge of endurance racing - the extended Westschleife will be avaiting racers with it's 11 minutes long circuit. Currently there have not been any objections to distance re-increase to 400 kilometers,making the event to one of the most difficult 4 hour races.
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...and more drag - 259km/h theoretical max speed is very unrealistic for a 160hp car,while it should not produce downforce from undertray as it simply does not have one. Not sure if shocks going through tyre is correct either - even if it's just a schematic diagram in garage,I doubt there is that much offset possible...
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A reminder - server will be password protected 1 hour before qualifying start to keep not knowing crowded server jumpers out of way,pass will be always the same: green

Some historic stats:
Last race won by: S1DUS*R.Kardol
Last FOX race won by: [WCL] s1dus Monkey (294th RTFR - FE Gold Rev.)
Most FOX race wins: S1DUS*Botsi - 3 wins (Finland - 9 wins)
Last Westhill race won by: [MRc] Zesty (322nd RTFR - RAYBEAM F97 @ WE National Rev.)
Most Westhill international configs race wins: [FM]ˆチαtαι - 3 wins (Finland - 6 wins)
Current rating leader: B2マ M (+2 points)

2024-S1 standings after 6 of 12 races:
B2マ M - 175
S1DUS*R.Kardol - 132
S1DUS*uNite - 121
Event rating,standings and other statistics


Server link: Ronys Tuesdays Fun Race
Race Green Discord: https://discord.gg/E37R5vD
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Wow,compliments - you are a really great car builder!
You made a car that is over 200 kilograms lighter than the original and generates downforce of a top tier GTR car without visible elements,must be some high-tech solutions to hide all the adjustable aerodynamic devices. I'm sure you're getting plenty of compliments about great car every day... ...from not knowing kids
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* PENALTIES :
Spiderman™ - receives 10 seconds penalty added to his finish time for pit exit line violation.

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Previous round was rather dominated by a single model,this wasn't that much different - half of top8 qualifyers including polesitter were running with the BZ30 Roadster,however the race took a slightly different course. The attendance this season is quite consistent - every round was attended by 26 or 27 drivers,in this round all 26 started and completed the 50% distance to be classified in results. Before this round 5 new cars were added to lineup,however just 2 of those were drawn - a total of 7 drivers had a chance to score first result for those,just one arrived.

The duel that started on season opener kept going also in this round - M versus J (.Holmes) were also the main candidates for race win in Blackwood. The briton got drawn the car he was able to beat in round 1 - Talot with which he set the 2nd fastest lap in qualifying and that's the best ever qualifying result for the car (improvement by 1 position). 2nd was his position also during most of the race,but after some struggles in last 1/3 of the race J.Holmes finally found a way pass his rival to seize race lead and kept it over last 2 laps to cross the finish line 1st,scoring his 2nd race win in RandomCar. M also got a car his rival had before - the BZ30 brought him to pole position,but the narrower tyres and higher weight eventually was the obstacle to keep the lead and the lithuanian had to settle for 2nd place finish. Best of the rest this time was the defending champion R.Kardol,who navigated the heaviest car in the field from the 7th position on grid to the podium scoring position,that included close battle for 3rd position in late stage of the race.


Top of the table after 3 rounds of 10 is tied - 70 points a piece for both J.Holmes and M,however the briton currently holds the top position through tiebreaker as he has 2 wins against M's single win. 3rd position is now taken by RD2 who is already 23 points behind both leaders. The defending champion after 1st attendance in the season resides in 14th position.

In top11 positions of drivers championship only a single privateer and single Zafiralis driver are not part of current top2 teams of teams championship,so it's no wonder that both lead standings by rather large gap. B2R has been most productive with points scoring in all 3 rounds,therefor they are leading the standings by 27 points over defending champions RGA. The new 3rd position in standings is Zafiralis,already 73 poins apart from leaders. Lithuania scored the highest points count in the season in round 3 and increased their lead in nations championship to 40 over defending champions Finland. Top3 of standings remains in status quo as UK is still 3rd,just 4 points apart from 2nd position. Provisional lead in manufacturers championship is now taken by winner of the latest round Talot,half a point ahead of previous leaders XF Coupe Turbo. 3rd is BZ30 which is the best car with 3 scores - minimum 6 are required to be eligible for championship.

Both most drawn cars Talot and Imprezzive B2 got same amount of draws also for this round,so they stay in lead with 34 draws a piece. With 4 draws BZ30 tied URC1 for 2nd most draws - 32. Additionally there were plenty of best position improvements for cars - the most impressive one was the 1st ever pole position for BZ30 (previous best was 2nd position),while his 2nd place finish was just a repeat. R.Kardol scored the 1st podium finish for CZR,which was also improvement by a single position. 136 improved both qualifying and finishing best results for Coquette - 3rd position in qualifying is 2 positions better than previous best achievement,while his 4th place finish is just one position better. Only 2 drivers have ever driven the XF Garis - Rony improved his own set best results in both sessions,12th position in qualifying is improvement by 2 while 11th position in race is 8 positions better. The league debutant J.Lavrikov received Fend Torus base model for his 1st appearance,his 14th position in qualifying is an improvement by 6 positions. Lorenzo is the only driver who raced a new car and set first achievements for it - 16th in qualifying and 12th in race.

Round 4 will also take place in april as with 4 weeks gap between rounds it can happen once a year. The venue will be South City's Chicane Route in reversed direction,where a 25 laps long race will take place. Current information says the duel between both leaders might not be continued there as J.Holmes will be travelling at that date,let's hope someone else can step in and make a proper competition at least in next round. Also between the latest and next round a voting for additional car will take place in our discord channel - it will be started on saturday.
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The following entries have not attended for 2 rounds in row and therefor have been marked as inactive - that means they will not be added to upcoming car draw:

B2R Loco
kyr1l?
sidus unite
㉿Tazкa
Maciukas
Adam
Neuroticat
Redasa
BAZSIBR4

To be added back to car draw,these entries have to quote own entry post and add "Reactivate" to it.
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Quote from paket42x :E-cars suckOmg omg omg

Well,technically non-aspirated gasoline/diesel cars suck. And turbo/super-charged cars blow. Shrug
I could propose brainstorming what electric cars do,but that would be out of topic here.
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If you want to make a protest,please include all neccesary information.
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Deadline for protests - wednesday,19:00 UTC
2nd wave of cars draw
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The 2nd car draw wave scheduled for today 16:40 UTC / 18:40 CET / 19:40 EET
Draw link: https://www.randomresult.com/ticket.php?t=3651603WNKR4LV738

1 ALi Ask ( GT ) - SALIVA15
2 AmirœcGT - SALIVA15
3 ZFRL•Motimoukari - COQUETTE Z5
4 J.Lavrikov - FEND TORUS
5 TRCan.. - IMPREZZIVE C8
6 Spiderman - ACOSTA STARLIN

This post will be edited after draw to add car names to drivers!
Signups are closed for this round,will be opened after the race!
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Quote from rane_nbg :"elapsed time since last restart"

This. And I don't think it's needed to show time more detailed than days.
1st wave of cars draw
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The 1st car draw wave scheduled for today 17:00 UTC / 19:00 CET / 20:00 EET
Draw link: https://www.randomresult.com/ticket.php?t=3650662AVSSYL6ZYK

Drivers list (order of the drawn numbers):
1 RG^Rony - XF GARIS
2 RG^M@CI3K - NORTZ XRT2 V6 BITURBO 2023
3 ZFRL•Thehemuli - IMPREZZIVE B2
4 B2R M - BZ30 ROADSTER
5 [PM] Jam 616 - CZR LUXURY SEDAN
6 RG^RedBoT - FEND TORUS
7 [WCL] T.Soini - URC1
8 B2R Ayoub_Maroc - ACOSTA STARLIN
9 RG^RD2 - BZ30 ROADSTER
10 [MRc] jsk - FEND TORUS
11 Vincent Adultman - FRAUD WHEELER E2
12 B2R Loco - VSI-V2000
13 RG^NOSLE - TALOT SUNS LOMIS
14 LLM. Sobis - COQUETTE Z5
15 ZFRL•LG-mies - 8JFZ SUPERCELESTRAL
16 kyr1l? - CZR LUXURY SEDAN
17 YES Lagooga - NORTZ XRT2 V6 BITURBO 2023
18 B2R 136 - COQUETTE Z5
19 B2R Stiefla - XM-5 94 TURBO
20 sidus unite - VSI-V2000
21 J.Holmes - TALOT SUNS LOMIS
22 Three Jump - FZ50
23 [WCL]J.A.Katila - BZ30 ROADSTER
24 B2R TwinCam - BZ30 ROADSTER
25 [WCL] Arska - IMPREZZIVE C8
26 ㉿Tazкa - XM-5 94 TURBO
27 AA™| Firestarter - 8JFZ SUPERCELESTRAL
28 Maciukas - NORTZ XRT2 V6 BITURBO 2023
29 GT4tube - FZ50
30 Adam - XF COUPE TURBO
31 RG^LORENZO - VSI-V2000
32 [MRT]-Nacho - MZG SEDAN
33 SGR MadJester - COQUETTE Z5
34 Neuroticat - IMPREZZIVE C8
35 Redasa - SALIVA15
36 S1DUS*R.Kardol - CZR LUXURY SEDAN
37 J.Martins - FRAUD 040
38 BAZSIBR4 - FXO Turbo
39 [RP]Pedro - VSI-V2000
40 petrix2383 - MZG SEDAN
41 [WCL] Bozz - N.400S
42 /SRP/ Master - IMPREZZIVE B2

This post will be edited after draw to add cars names to drivers!
New signups will receive their cars drawn in 2nd wave (20 minutes before qualifying)!
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Allthough not related to original topic,I wonder if there is any way to find out how long my server is running and if I need to restart it soon to avoid this bug. Server log unfortunatelly shows a very limited amount of lines.
RandomCar - 2024 round 3
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2024 series - round 3

Tuesday, 2nd april
17:00 UTC / 19:00 CET / 20:00 EET


Information:

Track: Blackwood GP Track reversed (BL1R)
Race distance: 22 laps (72.5km)

* IMPORTANT NOTE REGARDING CARS:

Due recently added mod checks,several mods have been unpublished,that includes also 3 cars from RandomCar cars list:
CAMMERA 730 TURBO
PIRAN FIREFLY 200
VPI-3 BASIC TURBO
If these cars have not been fixed and re-published until monday 17:40 UTC,they will be suspended for round 2! For draw results,please refer to car number from spreadsheets (link below) and not main info thread!

Signups: https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/106827
RandomCar spreadsheets: LINK

Cars list and their restrictions is available also in server - type command !opt and select "RandomCar Info"
Server link: Ronys Tuesdays Fun Race
Server will be passworded at least 1 hour before qualifying,server pass: random
Race Green Discord: https://discord.gg/E37R5vD

Cars will be drawn in 2 waves:
1st wave - 24 hours before start of qualifying
2nd wave - 20 minutes before start of qualifying - for late signups
Draw link and results will be posted in this thread!
FGED GREDG RDFGDR GSFDG