Maybe my suggestion was a little radical.

What about having to confirm having read 7.2 on each midrace join? (like the confirmation on everyones first CTRA session).

It seems this part of the rules is not very well known, or just disregarded by many.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

They must not impact the progress of the current race or its competitors in any way

If you get past cleanly and are doing 1.44 laptimes and the person you've just past is doing 1.47 then that's not impacting the race

Which word of "includes, but is not limited to" and "Overtaking competitors" is difficult?

Being some seconds faster does not mean your pass does not impact a race or sacrifice some time.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

But midrace joiners are allowed to overtake racers, I think - So long as they do not interfere in any way. I do it all the time and I've not gotten any trouble from it (just pass them quickly, but only if you're significantly faster than them).

CTRA rules 7.2
Mid-Race Joining (Waved Blue): Drivers who have joined the race after the race has begun, or who have rejoined the race after pitting/spectating, are allowed on the track solely by the grace of the race marshals. They must not impact the progress of the current race or its competitors in any way. This includes, but is not limited to:
*Closely following a competitor
*pressuring them or feigning overtaking moves on them;
*Obstructing the track for competitors
*Overtaking competitors
*Voting to restart an ongoing race.

Just a suggestion.

Would it be possible to auto-spectate midrace joiners whenever they get in the position they recieve a blue flag?

This would have the following benefits:

• Midrace joiners who stay out of "sight" of racers can carry on. Just a matter of good timing. (and not doing it in a crowded server/short track)
  
• Midrace joiners get spectated when they pass a racer. (which they are not allowed to anyway)
  
• Midrace joiners get spectated before they get physically in the way.
  
• Less reports need to be filed which may relieve the admins a bit.
  

I can not think of any downsides but these will undoubtedly be expressed in this thread.

This is just a suggestion and I do not even know if it can be implemented in the insim but logics tell me it should be possible.

It's more important to have a setup that suits you than it is to have one someone else is fast with

Quote from The Moose :

+ another 1.

+1

Could not agree more.

It seems CTRA is allready catching up.

My 3 reports which have been pending for some time have been dealt with today!

And satisfactory

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Aren't VAG the car group that, when you apply the brakes in many of its products, the throttle doesn't work. Meaning you can't do Heel'n'toe downchanges?

Tractors....sorry Diesels... don't have much engine braking anyway

Given the popularity of the Race2 server this may be a good idea.

This could also encourage the use of unrestricted TBO's because the other class participants will increase the scored points.

And when you are out spending....How about s2

Quote from modelmotorracing :

Personally I don't think drivers should do anything you wouldn't see on a normal racetrack. This is supposed to be a racing simulator, not an arcade game.

If realistic simulation was a priority midracejoining would have been disabled aswell.

I guess it's all just a part of lfs/ctra culture.

Last edited by Joris, Sat 29 Nov 2008, 13:46. Reason : Typo

Quote from JO53PHS :

On a related note, isn't the UF-BR server supposed to be for Bronze licensed racers? The UFBR season is over now... so surely it should be switched back from Entry level to Bronze..

UF-BR turned into a nasty crashfest yersterday. Making it bronze again would certainly have my vote

People should have the discipline to just not reply a thread if they think it's worthless.

The thread will drop down the order quicker that way.

Quote from NightShift :

The problem with RallyX is there are too little tracks to offer a decent variety (hell, people are constantly complaining about the lack of variety in tarmac tracks!)

And yet, there are many tracks the majority does not want to drive. I really have the feeling diversity is not something that is welcomed by the crowd. There are too many hotlappers who like to do their routine on the tracks they know best...unfortunately.

It should be as random as it gets without taking recently served tracks into account.

This means it is as likely you will get blackwood GP after South City Classic as getting South City Classic again statistically speaking.

I do like having the occasional rally layout but unfortunately the majority will vote it away.

My experience is that many people do not like to race any track they do not know well, or have a setup for which someone else has proved it's quick there.

Sounds great

Does anyone know on which BBC this will be aired?

Only Beeb 1 and 2 are available in the Netherlands but this coverage sounds like a good alternative for the oversponsored show it has evolved into here.

And then.......god created the boxer...

Quote from schofield :

Surely i don't need the in-put of other people herte that this issue has nothing to do with. I guess some people don't have anything better to do.

That's what a forum is for. If you did not want a discussion out in the open you would have sent a PM to do0f.

I remember Williams teammembers almost being charged for manslaughter in 1994.

Quote from hrtburnout :

*mumbles something about spuit 11*

Guilty

afaik the DDR means Double Data Rate. So that would be the reason.

Great outcome!

Massa deserves the race win.

Hamilton more than deserves the crown. If the FIA did not screw with race results this year Lewis would not even have needed to finish 5th.

Quote from peterules :

Maybe we could be free to race all open-wheelers on the SS3 server

In that case the Fox and FBM should show in the "List of Hosts" screen. I think the satisfaction of accomplishment is all there is to offer.

In other words just race for fun!

Quote from col :

What the FIA could do is allow teams to build their own custom engines, but make it a rule that they must in return make those engines available to any other teams for a fixed (nice and low) price - so the big budget teams can spend loads of cash and show off their engine building prowess, but the minows can get a competitive engine at a reasonable price.

I believe this allready is one of the proposals from the FIA.