I actually found South Park to be fairly intelligent about how they made fun of NASCAR.

Instead of how it's typically made fun of (i.e. "just turn left lawl or the drivers = retarded"). The eps decided to take a crack at the fans. Which to be honest a lot of them are very retarded.

What brought me to this conclusion is the pre-race interview when the reporters were asking actual technical racing questions and the drivers responded intelligently while Cartman was just like "YEEEEHAWWWW TURN LEFT". Shows great disconnection between Cartman acting retarded and the drivers being intelligent about the technical aspects of racing.

To me this also translates as NASCAR being much more than "just turn left".

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MUGEN/Asiatech

I was really surprised to see Max outbrake Boris that much. Or was it that Boris just laid back to get a run on Max after the chicane?

Great finish tho. Wish it was in the wet and I do hope that Max stays in NASCAR eventhough he's been horrible this year in the Cup

Quote from tinvek :

re the feedback, i sort of know what you mean but after running iracing for a while and altering my profiler etc i was suprised to find how dead LFS felt when i came back to it recently so i suspect both have their sweet spots in settings. also for some reason a lot of the setups for the mazda seem to be designed (either deliberately or accidently) to reduce the amount of feel you get through the wheel. where as the solstice appears to have the fabled feather light US power steering that uk mags moaned about for years and years.

Hit it really dead on tinvek. When I first went from LFS to iRacing, iR just felt horrible to me. But after some settings and wheel adjustments LFS now is the one that feels bad for me. After about 3 weeks of straight iRacing LFS just now feels lumpy and life-less...

For me, what has sold me to iRacing straight away is
1: sensative damage
2: persistent world license system (I loved CTRA btw)
3: very dynamic tracks. They all feel like torn, dirty, worn and bumpy real tracks while LFS tracks feels way too smooth and "sterile"
4: Very good content. (I.E. Laser scanned Spa)

All those just seems so much better than LFS for me atm. Especially the damage

Last edited by lizardfolk, Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:31.

Watching Eden Lake has made me scared of visiting the UK....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eden_Lake

Other: Dragon Fruit and Lychee as a close second

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Deko? Is that you?

Very good race for Max Papis and Patrick Carpentier. Good to see them atleast get a good race in 2010.

I wonder if Carpentier will ever get a ride

I dont think he failed like this back in his V8 Supercar days did he? I mean you dont dominate and win 2 V8 Supercar seasons by being lucky

why is it when ever Marcos Ambrose finds himself in a position to win something either really stupid or totally messed up happens?????......

Quote from Matrixi :

The aussie V8 is just totally bonkers. Bring on the Spa!

Omg yeah, I've actually found out that the V8 Supercar drives more like a stock car than a legitimate touring car. Nationwide car @ the glen is going to be crazy

Quote from AlienT. :

I don't care for that I want good graphics!

Play need for speed shift then

*shines the boothy signal*

Weird love hate relation with daytona in the nationwide. Had a pretty rollercoaster week so far. Went up to 2.4x A class after promotions then an absolute spiral to 1.04 Sr.

So...I decided today I would race the daytona combo again.... LOL most intense session I've ever had in sim racing period. Had wrecks happening literally behind my bumper as if god was teasing me

So after literally getting collected in every single daytona and legends race. Today I turned it around and went from 1.04 to 1.7x

I can't imagine what will happen at watkins glen LOL. I'm actually surprised to see ppl there that are 10x more impatient than me. Once at a race I saw a guy try to pass on the apron. Ofc the entire field wrecked becase of that and that pretty much sums up my experiences at daytona in the imp b

Quote from Mattesa :

What? The? EFF?

Just....

Like... What!?

Yeah...I know. I'm pretty sure I could have won that race I'm moving to the middle east And imagine. This was suppose to be a support and feeder series to the V8 Supercars

Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=5067
http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=5076

Seems like this is in fact a first step to the formation big Asian Touring Car Champ by 2014, with the S2000 regulations. In fact, the FIA seems to aim to impose the S2000 regs to most national series.

This is allright as long as they are sure to get enough cars on the entry lists - let's hope it won't end up with the European Touring Car Cup with only like 10 S2000 engaged, including 5 three or four seconds off the pace

I think there's enough minor asian series already and work should be done to merge some (if not all) of them into one mass Pan-Asia series.

There's the CTCC (Chinese Touring Car Championship: http://www.touringcartimes.com ... wtopic.php?f=17&t=211)
There's a HKTCC (Hong Kong Touring Car Championship: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H ... _Touring_Car_Championship)
There's a ITCS (Indonesian Touring Car Series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... QAUj8&feature=related)
Then there's the ATCS (Asian Touring Car Series: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Touring_Car_Championship)

Now there's going to be a JTCC? Seriously, all of these touring car series are extremely redundant (and all of them have very small grids). I say merge them all (including this new effort of JTCC) and just have one massive premier asian series. After all that is what the ATCS was originally suppose to do :rolleyes: motorsports is a mess in asia and someone needs to seriously clean it up

Some quick recap vids of the ATSC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS4Znm3Wslg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... iaZ7M&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... e2qMI&feature=related

Massive crash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl4nA9H2JWk

Onboard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAsZ3HYIboc

I'm actually pleasently surprised it's not as fail as the middle eastern V8 Chevy Supercar series

(see here to know what i'm talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4vYTbplnHY)

Last edited by lizardfolk, Wed, 4 Aug 2010 07:59.

Quote from PMD9409 :

You completely missed his point however and did what 99% of every iRacing lover does. You mistaked "the feel" with iR's content, not its physics. Put LFS' physics on iR's content, and I can promise it'll be better than what it is currently.

Does that mean iRacing's physics are shabby? Let's assume that you are right and LFS's physics are better than iR's. LFS's damage system is crap to the point of non-existent, hot tyres feel like soap (which is what the new tyre model's suppose to change but it isn't here yet.....), and the tracks feel way to smooth and clean.

I think i'd still rank iR over based on all those things unless you feel that iR's physics are an abomination. (Which I can't imagine anyone saying)

Quote from jasonmatthews :

Wrong, wrong wrong...

I bought a year because it was so much cheaper than paying per month. Like 50%. I stopped playing after 4 months because I had no way of racing my teammates and friends. It was BORING!... VERY

Now, they have finally listened and are trying to make it easier for a community/team to work, but it still is a cold, money making sim... IMHO

If you think my honest opinion is trolling, then maybe you should take a good look at yourself. I have tried my upmost to try to make iracing and a team/community work, but it simply doesn't atm. This is what makes LFS special IMO. The fact that we can access live data (for free), build websites around it, join friends etc, makes LFS a community SIM. iRacing is simply not that.

To say to LFS'ers, who dare to make statements of opinion on iRacing, in an LFS forum, as trollers, is bullshit Glenn, and you know it..

If you really think that the opinion of someone who plays LFS every day, runs a very active team, organises meets for the community as a troll, then piss off to iracing and don't come back.

The fact that Scawen/Victor lets you talk about iRacing should tell you something. The fact that you are posting in the LFS forum should tell you something. The fact that when you simply don't have the time to commit to iracing 24/7, you WILL feel as ripped off as I did, should tell you something.

^^^ excuse my rant, but I am no freaking troll :P

Right, it's the same problem with P2P MMORPGs like World of Warcraft. When you buy a subscription and find out that you dont have time for it then you'll feel ripped off.

Your complaint is very common among any subscription based video game or service. But I will have to say that it is your fault for not utilizing iRacing. You paid a fee and you can utilize as much of it as you want. If you suddenly dont have time for. Well that's the gamble you took when you paid a fee.

Also, iRacing has a friend system atm So I would say that your problem was fixed recently

I dont understand why people here believes that iRacing's tyre model is crap.

Seriously, Silverado trucks at Texas Motor Speedway. I drove like I drive in LFS. Flat out aggressive. After 10 laps my pace went from scoring fastest to near fastest laps to 2 seconds of the leader's pace.

How in the world is that a bad tyre model? I was absolutely shocked at how realistic the tyre wear was (as in NASCAR the guys cant maintain fast pace either on old tyres).

I dont know about road course racing cause despite getting a Class B license I havent raced much since upgrading to the V8 Supercar, but I cant imagine for that to be more unrealistic than the ovals since they are the same game.

Likewise:
IndyCar at Chicagoland. Same thing. Very loose at first, then after 15 laps so tight that I sometimes have to lift slightly just to keep it from getting into the wall

At the Kyoto 500? Yeah sure, I actually got faster on older tyres. In fact, through out the race I didnt even have to think about tyres very much. Just as long as they dont get cold you're fine and you can drive as hard as you want.

Does that sound realistic?

Quote from logitekg25 :

if its a sim, so its meant to teach you, where is the tire pressure, the suspension damage, the visuals on suspension. why cant you change everything to expirament. why cant you make sets that just WONT.WORK.?

Ummm....what?

Quote from Raito :

I dont like that paying strategy, thats awful on iRacing. And "where is the demo?" question is still in the air.... just look at the cars/tracks and i feel a tons of american racing, those Nascar IndyCar series, V8 etc. from the car list only Jetta interested me, other cars looks porly (not graphics but they are exactly that what i wanted to never drive)..... never tried but these things about game made me not interested.

Umm....

Formula 1 '79 Lotus? Formula 1 Williams? And how can you want to drive the Jetta!!! A boring FWD over the V8 Supercar!!!

and BTW V8 Supercar isn't "american" it's australian. It's also one of the more powerful touring cars and the australian series is a beast to drive in

Also...did you forget about laser scanned Spa? And there's nothing wrong with american road courses. Actually America has one of the best circuits in the world tbh. Laguna Seca, Road America, Sebring, Mid-Ohio, etc

And NASCARs aren't as boring to drive as they seem in real life I bet you'll spin on your first time driving a CoT

Most people I've known who are skeptical about oval racing found themselves shocked when they try iRacing oval racing

Last edited by lizardfolk, Mon, 2 Aug 2010 06:09.

Quote from Mustafur :

And the main difference in why Power is soo much better then he was before is becuase he finally has a car worthy of a victory, before he had to give 200% to be in contention of one.

Just shows you how crappy Team Australia was (sorry Lukey :razz

Anyways: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EkQ1n75nlI

What a *&$^ decision. Seriously, is Indycar suddenly getting too technical now? Castroneves didn't weave. He blocked coming into T1 because it's &^%$ing EDMONTON. An airport track. That runway is so wide that if you dont block you sure as hell are going to lose that position.

Castroneves turned outside to turn into the corner and Power was MILES away from him on the outside. Power even almost passed him on the outside so that tells you that Castroneves wasn't blocking or weaving.

Seriously, one of THE worst decision Indycar has ever made. PERIOD!!

On a happier note Milka Duno is going to get banned

http://bleacherreport.com/arti ... ob-if-indycar-has-its-way

Quote from Mustafur :

The current IRL field is a bit better then Champ car has ever been imo.

It would atleast be worth a try.

I've always thought that the ChampCar field was really weak (and overrated) before ChampCar even fell. I mean ChampCar guys failing in IRL proves this:

Robert Doornbos:
3rd overall CCWS
16th overall Indycar

Graham Rahal:
6th overall CCWS
17th and 7th for two full seasons in Indy

Justin Wilson:
3rd, 2nd, and 2nd overall for his last three years in CCWS
11th and 9th overall in IRL

Oriol Servia:
2nd overall in his best CCWS season
9th overall in his best Indy season

EJ Viso hasn't done better in IndyCar than CCWS

The only driver that recently crossed over from CCWS into Indy that is successful was Will Power. But beyond him, when you analyze the CCWS and Indy field, you can see a massive difference in quality actually.

Europeans just keep mistaking IRL and CCWS as the same series. The only thing that would bring all this home is if Bourdais comes over to Indy and fails to become competitive (which seems likely)

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