Added the render about an hour ago, and also adding a 3rd one, we need a GT3 catagory now :P
http://www.mercuryracingteam.com/pc2k/FZR_M_MoE4-4b2.jpg
The Merc guys havent even see this, the idiots are practicing instead, seems they care more about that then how their skins look
http://www.mercuryracingteam.com/pc2k/FZR_M_MoE4-4b2.jpg
The Merc guys havent even see this, the idiots are practicing instead, seems they care more about that then how their skins look
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Reason : added a _ in the url by mistake :)
Thinking about it, i could probably put that back in now, because it was originally in there, however trying to get all the gradients to line up around the skin is a real nightmare, its bad enough on the Merc skins because of the grey gradient in the middle (the single seaters are terrible!). I managed to get it in using a 2nd gradient on the rear, going from top to bottom, and just letting the light blue fade to nothing. So im betting i could put some orange in there, however sadly you wouldnt get much in there as the points where the sides and top meet round the skin is quite wildly varied, could be blended manually maybe... but it was supposed to be a 2 min "can you put the logo & driver names on a skin for us" job hehe
Not arsed if its too late, only just got asked to do the skin so take it or leave it 
http://www.mercuryracingteam.com/pc2k/FZR_M_MoE4-4a.jpg
http://www.mercuryracingteam.com/pc2k/FZR_M_MoE4-4b.jpg
original 2560 x 2048 render hiding in there too
http://www.mercuryracingteam.com/pc2k/FZR_M_MoE4-4a.jpg
http://www.mercuryracingteam.com/pc2k/FZR_M_MoE4-4b.jpg
original 2560 x 2048 render hiding in there too
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Anyone have a working VWS scene in .max format?
The 2 attached above are seemingly lacking textures, it complains about 2 being missing (a FXO skin and a licence plate) in the first file, and the same 2 still missing plus a new VWS skin thrown into the mix. Both located in wildly different locations.
Clearly, of the files 3DSM says are missing, none are relevent to anyone here, and yet its not displaying the textures or saying their missing.
I've deleted out all my LFS source 'User paths', and then added the new viewer's dds folder, rendered to no success, deleted that path and moved onto the next location which might work, to ensure that the first variation it tries to use isnt the issue. Each version is identical, and very much flawed.
Infact, in the updated version the windows arent even transparent.
I could understand the issue if i was being told im missing textures, or i was the first person posting after it'd been added, but 2 people suggesting the first attept worked fine, with their renders backing it up, makes me a little confused.
Im not sure if the previous people modified the whole thing to include the tyres, or whats going on, but going by a couple of other peoples comments, i dont think im alone.
If i rename tyres.dss/.tga then it asks for it, so i know it wants it, however when i tell it to render without, it looks no different to the version when it has access to the file. Its simply refusing to use them.
The 2 attached above are seemingly lacking textures, it complains about 2 being missing (a FXO skin and a licence plate) in the first file, and the same 2 still missing plus a new VWS skin thrown into the mix. Both located in wildly different locations.
Clearly, of the files 3DSM says are missing, none are relevent to anyone here, and yet its not displaying the textures or saying their missing.
I've deleted out all my LFS source 'User paths', and then added the new viewer's dds folder, rendered to no success, deleted that path and moved onto the next location which might work, to ensure that the first variation it tries to use isnt the issue. Each version is identical, and very much flawed.
Infact, in the updated version the windows arent even transparent.
I could understand the issue if i was being told im missing textures, or i was the first person posting after it'd been added, but 2 people suggesting the first attept worked fine, with their renders backing it up, makes me a little confused.
Im not sure if the previous people modified the whole thing to include the tyres, or whats going on, but going by a couple of other peoples comments, i dont think im alone.
If i rename tyres.dss/.tga then it asks for it, so i know it wants it, however when i tell it to render without, it looks no different to the version when it has access to the file. Its simply refusing to use them.
Thanks for that Victor, wasnt expecting it so soon with most people chillin
Joe
I wouldnt say it has a specific font name tbh, theres probably a few variations of it, i know i have 4 which are pixel based from the same collection.
http://www.dafont.com/bitmap.php
Dafont is pretty good, plenty of fonts on there and they're well catagorised compared to most free font sites, usually you get maybe a dozen catagories, this has plenty of catagories and then even more sub-cats so its easy to have a russle through.
'Redensek' (about 5th down on there) is probably the one you'd want. Its suggesting its an 13px font, but it certainly looks like an 8px one which is what you want (with no PS AA crisp/sharp type effects).
Joe
I wouldnt say it has a specific font name tbh, theres probably a few variations of it, i know i have 4 which are pixel based from the same collection.
http://www.dafont.com/bitmap.php
Dafont is pretty good, plenty of fonts on there and they're well catagorised compared to most free font sites, usually you get maybe a dozen catagories, this has plenty of catagories and then even more sub-cats so its easy to have a russle through.
'Redensek' (about 5th down on there) is probably the one you'd want. Its suggesting its an 13px font, but it certainly looks like an 8px one which is what you want (with no PS AA crisp/sharp type effects).
I think what Victor is getting at is that if 2 minutes ago, you had this epiphany which told you that what LFS really needs is a new league, and the first thing you do is ask Victor to dedicate a section of the forum to someones latest whim.... dont bother
If you dont have something solid to back up what you want to do, whether its a website with all the info, or a handful of people saying its a great idea, then chances are you wont get your wish.
You could start with a thread for your intended new series in the default leagues area (as opposed to a subforum) and if you can organise everything to the point where you have things sorted out and you effectively have yourself an organised league then you shouldnt have any problem getting a subforum for the league. Assuming you havent done that already that is.
Can we have a sub forum for LFS Pro Series please,
Series Name: LFS Pro Series
Website: www.lfsproseries.net
Moderators: PaulC2K & Sracer
We've already completed a private 6 round test season, gathered feedback from it, and made a few changes. Now were ready to start things properly with entries taken during January and racing starting in Feb.
Also, Im not sure if this is the right place to put them (I did search, and I see some have been added in here anyway), but we have banners for the forum if they can be used, as well as a series userbar (figured it'd save both of us time putting all the info in 1 thread, though I can post it in the league userbar thread if you'd prefer things done by the book etc).
Banners:
Userbar:
[lfsps]userbar[/ lfsps]
Hopefully all of the above is sufficient and acceptable.
Thx,
PaulC2K
Series Name: LFS Pro Series
Website: www.lfsproseries.net
Moderators: PaulC2K & Sracer
We've already completed a private 6 round test season, gathered feedback from it, and made a few changes. Now were ready to start things properly with entries taken during January and racing starting in Feb.
Also, Im not sure if this is the right place to put them (I did search, and I see some have been added in here anyway), but we have banners for the forum if they can be used, as well as a series userbar (figured it'd save both of us time putting all the info in 1 thread, though I can post it in the league userbar thread if you'd prefer things done by the book etc).
Banners:
Userbar:
[lfsps]userbar[/ lfsps]
Hopefully all of the above is sufficient and acceptable.
Thx,
PaulC2K
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yeah, but it makes more sense insisting that submitting the design means your giving that permission, that way you know the one you like best can be used, you dont then have to go contacting them asking is it okay to use it. I cant see any reason someone would submit a design and then say no, but its commonplace on such things for the permission to be implied upon submitting an entry so you know its no an issue.
Maybe it would be good idea to state that by submitting a design the designer is (at the very least) agreeing to allow the MoE series the right to use it in these events. 
Would have thought you guys would have picked up that message after the stupidity that went on where you guys were forced to seek out a new logo because the previous owner was no longer part of the organisation.
Common sense would tell most people to try and ensure they dont get burnt twice
Would have thought you guys would have picked up that message after the stupidity that went on where you guys were forced to seek out a new logo because the previous owner was no longer part of the organisation.
Common sense would tell most people to try and ensure they dont get burnt twice
Just take a step back a moment, both of you, and think about what your saying. Your suggesting that because he's paid millions upon millions for doing his job, and doing it bloody well too, that he should accept racist remarks and insults, as if the money he earns should make it tough luck.
Im guessing both of you earn something, can you both give me a ballpark figure so i know what level of insults its acceptable to throw at you and your family based on your income
So your just going to ignore what i wrote and dismiss it as BS so you dont have to respond to the valid points in there? Noice!
I wish i was ignorant enough to do that.
Its funny though, you claim i base it on 1 corner, yet i was talking about the whole season, while your insistant on talking about the last couple of races... im amazing how 2-faced you can be about something.
Your saying that Lewis wasnt able to match Vettels speed in Monza? hmm, maybe the fact that he had to pass FOURTEEN cars in order to acheive a win, which he would have got, while Vettel sat and drove an uninterupted, unchallenged race.
Also, if your talking about fastest race lap, Vettel didnt get it, Kimi did, so in that case the Ferrari was faster.
So basically, in terms of race pace over ~90min, Hamilton was faster than him, and in terms of fastest lap in the race, Kimi was faster than him... as was: Bourdais, Webber, Massa, Lewis, Heidfeld, JENSON BLOODY BUTTON, Glock, Alonso, Rosberg, Nakajima, Kubica and Kovi.
But hey, he beat Sutil
I know those are all based on laps done right at the end when Vettel didnt need to push (although he was, if you watched the interviews he refused to slow down till the last lap).
But even if midway through the race he held a fastest lap, the fact that Lewis would have won if it wasnt for the timing of the weather changing, forcing him to make an unscheduled stop, so you cant come from 15th to 1st without the leaders making a mistake or being faster than them for a significant proportion of the race.
Im not disputing the fact that what Vettel acheived was way above what is expected from him, thats obvious, however you (anyone) cant say he was the fastest driver that race as he just wasnt.
"Its funny How people Claim Massa sucks because he can only win from the front row yet he has won the most races this season, what does that say.
"It says he's started on the front row of a race quite a lot of times, and if he had the balls & ability to overtake people midway through a race and come through the field he'd have wrapped the title up without the FIA's help giving him free points, ignoring blatent rules broken he's entirely responsible for, while punishing him for the same issue which was the teams fault when he was already well out of contention to pick up some points.
Im not saying he sucks, but he isnt a worthy champion IMO. The fact that Kimi had to drop back ~20sec in China to let him get undeserved points so hes only 7 points away instead of 9, which should have been 10 if the FIA didnt make BS rulings to gift points. I havent seen enough from Massa to say he's a potential F1 champion, maybe the pain of missing out this year will drive his determination... who knows.
Could well be possible, the BBC websites coverage has the last 4 states at 49%/49% for 3 and 49/47.
If he takes 2 of the 4 then he'd get 350, theres still a 3, 11 (x2) and a 15, so he could do it with NC which he leads by 0.2% apparently, and the vast majority of the votes apparently accounted for.
Dont know quite how accurate their data is, but its certainly looks like its as accurate as it could be with fairly live data:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ame ... lections_2008/7697829.stm
Im guessing they're getting their data from an official source overseeing the voting, kinda like getting pubstats from LFSW.
oh, and i have to admit to having taken more of an interest to the last 3 US elections than any of the last 3 English ones
Probably cos they have more of an influence on what our government does than our government
Dont be stupid, that was a film!
It was David Palmer, and then his brother Wayne
F--- me, they havent got one wrong yet.
Still about 10 uncalled, but even those are unofficially looking to go the way they've got it.
Hopefully there wont be the same fiasco there was a few years back in Florida and it'll be done and dusted by the morning.
Your telling me you cant comprehend someone making ANY comparison between 2 racing drivers on racing matters??
regardless of that - i wasnt making comparisons, your taking the comment out of context and simply reading it on the basis of one post and not the whole discussion before it, so whether you know it or not, your taking my comment out of the context it was put.
I was making the point that Senna became the Senna that people remember after a couple of years when he'd worked his way up the grid. People will remember all the great things he did, the daring moves, the unbelievable achievements, and the big mistakes. People remember everything he did in the prime of his career, they dont talk about the mistakes they make because they were young and inexperienced at that level because they werent being watched so closely, their mistakes didnt really make much of an impact because they werent that important because they werent significant people at the time. Everyone is watching the front runners, the people who have a certain expectation put on them, the rest are just expected to do their best really, if they stay out of trouble then they'll remain in the shadows of the top drivers.
Lewis hasnt got that shadow to hide in, he's having to learn from his mistakes in the spotlight and thats probably his own fault because he started so impressively. Had he started with your average rookie results, people wouldnt have slammed him for making mistakes, look at Kovi and Piquet during there time in the Renault for their rookie seasons, its not a rubbish car, its at the front of the mid-pack teams for certain, but they werent that impressive and their averageness meant people accepted their mistakes, meanwhile Lewis would take harsher critisism because he'd shown he had the pace and ability in previous races.
Had he been further back down the grid in a less significant team, people would dismiss his mistakes as n00bish, but if he shows signs of having something about him, isnt scared of racing the top drivers, and then dares to slip up... he gets harshly critisised for it.
His initial performances brought higher expectation, the way he started his career when people expected him to be very much the pupil learning from his mentor (Alonso) and possibly picking up the odd result, but after leading the standings for about 75% of the season he's kinda been expected to make the decisions and whatnot with the knowledge that past champions have had.
Is it unfair to compare 2-3 people from different era's to say who's better? absolutely... but tell me why its unfair to compare the conditions in which the 2-3 entered the sport. Senna and Schumacher entered the stage quietly and they came through over time, Lewis hasnt got that, he's now expected to perform flawlessly, to make all the right decisions, and end 3rd world debt
Then they'd have made their mistakes in a Williams instead.
Everyone makes mistake, as rookies and as multiple champions, but very few are thrown in at the deep end of the pool and expected to come so impressively. Maybe there would be quite a few if they were given the chance, Lewis is extremely fortunate, but you cant pretend that past world champions entered F1 and just started pulling wins out their arse, they've all made mistakes, and they always will, Lewis is no different.
Out of interest, do you think Senna or Schumacher could have got to the last race of their first season with a 7pt lead in an ever so slightly 2nd best car on the grid? Personally i cant see it, but I will say that i think Lewis probably had 'easier' opposition to get into that situation. Schumacher wouldnt have stood a chance, not with Senna, Prost & Mansell all having plenty of years behind them and i think all had been crowned world champion by then. Senna had Lauda and also Prost in there, i think Keke was in there too. Lewis was also lucky that he didnt have Schumacher, although still had Alonso (in the same car) and Kimi who'd already shown he was a title contender.
If Senna/Schumi came in when Lewis did... thats a different story
Senna in a Williams, maybe he'd win a race or 2, but i dont see him beating Lauda, Prost & co to the drivers title. Schumi wouldnt have stood a chance either vs Senna, Prost & Mansell.
When you consider what it requires to come into F1 as a rookie and do well, its no easy task. Your talking about coming in from a lower form of racing, most likely as the champion, and then taking on the very best drivers in the world, drivers who've won titles at that level, have bags of racing experience behind them as well as F1 experience and knowledge, to come in as an absolute rookie (not a Villeneuve/Andretti experienced rookie) and challenge for ANYTHING let alone win races on merit and come so close to winning the drivers title it was almost impossible for him to lose it... its unbelievable.
They probably made you lol as much as they made me lol when you try and pretend that they're one of the so-so teams on the grid at the end of the season, and now saying that the only reason they've done so well in the 2nd half (when the car is poor) is purely down to Kubica.
If thats the case, if we can just make up stuff, then im saying Kubica was poor in the first half of the season, and his results then were purely down to the car.
But hey, his car was so bad at the end of the season it was faster than Lewis and Seb when he insisted on unlapping himself. That was all him though of course?
Maybe the car wasnt as strong as it was at the start, but you cant claim his less impressive results in the first half of the season with a very competitive car, compared to his more impressive points haul in what your suggesting was a below-par car is entirely down to 1 drivers results... which were remarkably similar to his teammates too.
Your story just doesnt add up. Im not saying he's rubbish, i can see him challenging for a title when he gets a car capable of doing that asthe 08 BMW was never that, at any stage, he just managed to get some good results off the back of other peoples poor results (and credit to him for that) but not once was he challenging for a win on merit, and i find it very hard to believe someone who cant win races on merit will be a real threat on the WDC, whether they're Kubica, Schumacher or Sato. Its like thinking you can win a WDC while being unable to win a race off the front row
Vettel wasnt faster than Lewis, he qualified ahead of him due to stupid tyre choice then random scrutineering stopping him from making a proper attempt. In the race Lewis would have won from 15th, passing most of those places on the track, while Vettel had no challenger to worry about, and if the weather hadnt changed shortly after Hamilton went onto slicks and just laps before Vettel needed to pit anyway, things would have been very different.
Still, had it been dry i dont think Vettel would have had a chance, however it wasnt dry and thats what happened.
But i strongly disagree that he was faster than Lewis, he out played him, but he wasnt faster.
1) Correct, 1989 isnt that long i guess. Only missing a couple of live races, dont think ive missed a Japanese GP etc 6am start from the age of about 12 onwards, im just a johnny come lately i am.
2) Really? Thats disgraceful, maybe he should have asked the FIA for help in that department too?
Funny how all the things he's done wrong have all been insignificantly penalised or pale in comparison to a fair penalty. Like intentionally driving into a rival who'd just passed him, or giving him a S-G in a race which was already over for him for a TEAM error, but not giving him a penalty which would have lost him the race win and given it to Lewis when it was HIS error. Crap car issues is something he should take up with the people paying his wages. Just think, if the FIA could have gifted him more decisions/points unfairly, or he didnt spin FIVE times round Silverstone in a single race, maybe he would have won it
3a) Kubica insisting he must unlap himself to acheive sweet FA except cause lewis to leave the ideal racing line and gift Vettel the chance to pass.
3b) Lewis was on a low DF setting and heavy with fuel, Vettel wasnt. Hardly equal comparisons.
4) He can have the 'most consistant but unfortunately not in a competitive enough car but if he was then maybe he'd challenge for something rather than having to settle for the scraps the big boys leave him' award. I'll happily present it to him.
Kubica could also have taken 3rd place in the standings ahead of the former F1WDC if it wasnt for the stupid decision to put slicks on for a wet race, and for that he can have the 'I made a stupid decision that cost me 3rd overall' award too if that pleases you. Is that deserving enough?
5) By pace in Brazil.... Funny really considering they've had far better results in all the other rounds, but hey, that must be the teams fault right? Couldnt possibly be the drivers to blame
If you actually checked things, you'd find that their pace hasnt really changed all that significantly, the first half of the season they were qualifying in the same places they were in the second half of the season.
Kubica failed to finish more races in the 2nd half, yet almost certainly picked up more points in that period, Heidfeld was the same, but roughly equal points in either half. So what does that say if the results suggest that they had better results when your suggesting they were mid-pack at best towards the end of the year? It suggests your going off 1 race where Kubica sucked and then decide to start the parade lap on Slicks before sense kicked in and he swapped while the lights went green.
So id say your probably not the best person to judge something are you
I think your mis-enterpreting what im saying, otherwise how is saying that Lewis cant hide behind a small budget, mid-pack expectation team's car as the reason for doing 'ok' in a race considered giving him an excuse. He's got everything available to challenge for wins, and so really when he doesnt then people generally question why he wasnt faster, they dont say 'oh well, he's only in a BMW/TR, he did the best he could' because people know what its capable of and he's expected to fight for the win, just as both the Ferrari boys are.
If Kubica is so great, why wasnt he consistantly pushing for wins, the BMW is far from crap, infact i was reading yesterday was the first time in 2 seasons where they havent picked up a point, they're in the 3rd best team by a fair distance and were on a really challenging pace at the start of the season, but they were gifted 1 win, while Renault won twice and TR won once. Kubica picked up reasonable points here and there, Lewis & Massa faught for the title, Kubica found himself in with a chance, but only by their misfortune. We havent seen anything of Kubica to say he's a great racer, he hasnt really been involved with the top racers, blame the car all you like, but until he's in a car that can challenge for a title and he's able to race an earn wins by beating the best, how can anyone say he's a better driver or deserves to win anything.
Bobby deserved 4th, he wasnt screwed by the FIA, wasnt rammed off the track by a rival unable to accept he was being fairly passed, and he finished 4th. I highly, highly doubt he's the best driver in F1, he's maybe the 5th best, so he's got more than he deserves IMO. Alonso is a far better driver, but he doesnt deserve anything more than he got, he is where he is, in a worse car than the BMW, got better 'left-over' results, but im sure he doesnt expect consider himself deserving of much more than he got.
He's done well, but he certainly doesnt deserve to win the title this year, theres no pity points in F1, no points for trying, and rightly theres no title of World drivers he did well considering the car he's in Champion. Maybe he was the best driver given the circumstances, im not sure, plenty of drivers have done well considering the car they're in, Glock being one who's been overlooked (though the moany sods will dismiss him as being the sole reason Lewis is WDC and thus crap). Theres plenty of good young talent in F1 at the moment, but if you put all of them in an identical car, im betting that Lewis would come out on top 8 times out of 10, i think only Schumi would be able to consistantly beat him at the moment.
Considering in his first season he should have won the title, and the 2nd season he did, i think its quite possible that we'll enter another dull Schumi-type period in F1 when things become predictable. If he's currently making mistakes and should have won titles both seasons then god help everyone when he stops making them.
Lewis is what, 23? In his second season. Senna and Schumacher were both hiding at the back of the grid, had about 40 races behind them before they were getting involved in any championship talk. Its easier to make mistakes when nobody is watching your every move than it is when the world is watching. Lewis, after 2 seasons, has been the significant favourite to win the drivers championship both years, and thats while he's making these so-called rookie mistakes. So little experience, considerable expectation, and no excuses to hide behind. He cant use the team he's with to excuse a poor performance, its all on him.
Theres nothing like the pressure on Bobby compared to the likes of Kimi, Massa, Schumi & Lewis, they were in a top car and there are expectations that go with it. He's in a good team, but nobody expects him to win anything. When you dont have the burden of expectation on your shoulders things are a lot easier, its always easier being the underdog.
Yes, he might have had the hopes of everyone back home, but nobody expected him to be in with any sort of a shout, and he's done well to be in that situation, but he was never a real contender and really nobody expected him to be there because of the car he's in, as good as it is its not a WC winning car.
What world champion hasnt made mistakes or made poor decisions along the way? Schumacher, Senna, Alonso... please.
When you consider that Lewis had 2 potential race wins taken away from him, which Massa in turn benefitted from by 10pts (Valencia he exited the pitlane dangerously but went unpunished an kept the win, while Singapore his team told him to leave dangerously and he was punished for their mistake, thats -2 for him dropping to 2nd, +2 for lewis, a 4pt swing, then Spa lewis lost 4pts while Massa gained 2pts, a 6pt swing) so the championship could have been done with by Fuji had the FIA had some sort of solid structure in place ruling over decisions which have conveniently added to taking the championship to the last round. These incidents have been done plenty, and the outcome wont change, however they could easily have gone the other way, the Spa one may well have been changed had the rules not said they have no right to object no matter how unfair it was.
Also, i think both Kubica and Vettel are good drivers, but you cant honestly tell me either have been better over the season. As Intrepid has just said, they didnt have any long term pressures, the only time Kubica had any pressure was about half-way through the Canadian GP when everyone else was out of the picture and all he had to do was keep it on the track, thats hardly the sign of a great driver. Same for Vettel, he led and won a GP, didnt have any real pressure from anyone, no defending his place or a need to pass anyone for position. Given what their circumstances are, they've done very well for themselves, but lets not make them out to be the best drivers of the 2008 season purely cos they've had 1-2 decent races where other things have gifted them results. Even Lewis at Monza, from 15th, was looking set to win the Monza GP if the weather hadnt changed just laps after he'd pitted, and just before Vettel was due to.
They've done great jobs, but pile on the pressures of all eyes being on you, having to overtake, race, and generally get the better of the likes of Hamilton, Massa, Kimi, Alonso etc etc and im sure they'd feel the heat.
Lastly, i think Massa needs thanking for creating one of F1s greatest memories, its something that'll enjoy watching for years... and his son's racing was good too
Yeah im sure ive heard about the ice cube thing too.
Just loaded it up, there isnt an 'ice' object, i have fire, electric & 'horrible' gas. The closest we have is glass as a construction material, and i cant actually recall seeing an ice material as such in videos, i've seen demonstrations where they've had the fire electric and gas together, but i cant imagine ice would be one of the dangers you can place onto a object as you would fire & electric, and the materials dont have special properties like that either (only weight, holdable/grabable and bouncability for the 2 rubbery materials and thats about it really). So i'd say its a myth which would be cool but it seems 'ice' isnt in the game, that its just glass made to look like ice.
Just loaded it up, there isnt an 'ice' object, i have fire, electric & 'horrible' gas. The closest we have is glass as a construction material, and i cant actually recall seeing an ice material as such in videos, i've seen demonstrations where they've had the fire electric and gas together, but i cant imagine ice would be one of the dangers you can place onto a object as you would fire & electric, and the materials dont have special properties like that either (only weight, holdable/grabable and bouncability for the 2 rubbery materials and thats about it really). So i'd say its a myth which would be cool but it seems 'ice' isnt in the game, that its just glass made to look like ice.
Boris, did you get in on the LBA Public Beta?
The Eurogamer one passed me by without me even realising it'd started and i was pretty gutted, but thankfully i got one from the PS EU Beta, god knows why we get them 24hrs later than random folks, i know a few official beta testers got keys from EUG cos we werent told if we'd be testing it too, so some people now have 2 which is easily avoidable, as if it isnt annoying enough having the yanks take keys intended for the EU folk.
Anyway... im really amazed how good the whole package is, if they can do away with a bog standard menu system they have, its all really interactive and creatively put together (as it should be). The naration for everything is funny, the english speaking guy im a big fan of anyway and he definately suits the role. It feels a little restrictive at the beginning, but still way beyond the customisation any other game would give you. As your completeing the levels your picking up content which builds up your library, simple enough levels to begin with where you need to learn something new for each section, and it gets a bit more fun & challenging in each level.
The create side is done well, when you complete a tutorial (which are all done really well) you unlock some more content, including building stuff which you need to pass the tutorial to use, so rather than getting tons of stuff to start with your forced to correctly use them in the tutorial and its rewarding knowing you'll get something new to play with once you've done it too (and theres TONS of stuff!).
After doing all the tutorials and having a crack at building i have to say i found it quite hard to make something i wanted to make. Its probably mostly down to the fact that im trying to do things wrongly (1-2 things didnt seem to work as they should, as they did in the tutorial). I spent maybe 2-3hrs (quite distracted playing an FM08 network game though) trying to knock up a proper level and its bl**dy hard. I dont know if im trying to make something too complicated, going the wrong way about it, or missing steps out... but there was plenty of frustration partly cos i was making an arse of the levels and also cos my creative juices werent flowing.
Still, it was enough to take up 8hrs of my day, and im sure i'll be back on it tomorrow seeing what i can do with it and having a proper go at levels. Theres already some fun levels, nothing special yet but better than the cr*p i've done, and its quick and painless doing everything.
Really cant wait for it to come out next month, especially with all the BluRay content, the download was only 950mb and there was already tons of tutorial stuff (a few are simply video, most are videos in the background of a level where you can copy what they're doing in the video) but the other 39gb of textures, videos, and stuff.... cant wait.
The Eurogamer one passed me by without me even realising it'd started and i was pretty gutted, but thankfully i got one from the PS EU Beta, god knows why we get them 24hrs later than random folks, i know a few official beta testers got keys from EUG cos we werent told if we'd be testing it too, so some people now have 2 which is easily avoidable, as if it isnt annoying enough having the yanks take keys intended for the EU folk.
Anyway... im really amazed how good the whole package is, if they can do away with a bog standard menu system they have, its all really interactive and creatively put together (as it should be). The naration for everything is funny, the english speaking guy im a big fan of anyway and he definately suits the role. It feels a little restrictive at the beginning, but still way beyond the customisation any other game would give you. As your completeing the levels your picking up content which builds up your library, simple enough levels to begin with where you need to learn something new for each section, and it gets a bit more fun & challenging in each level.
The create side is done well, when you complete a tutorial (which are all done really well) you unlock some more content, including building stuff which you need to pass the tutorial to use, so rather than getting tons of stuff to start with your forced to correctly use them in the tutorial and its rewarding knowing you'll get something new to play with once you've done it too (and theres TONS of stuff!).
After doing all the tutorials and having a crack at building i have to say i found it quite hard to make something i wanted to make. Its probably mostly down to the fact that im trying to do things wrongly (1-2 things didnt seem to work as they should, as they did in the tutorial). I spent maybe 2-3hrs (quite distracted playing an FM08 network game though) trying to knock up a proper level and its bl**dy hard. I dont know if im trying to make something too complicated, going the wrong way about it, or missing steps out... but there was plenty of frustration partly cos i was making an arse of the levels and also cos my creative juices werent flowing.
Still, it was enough to take up 8hrs of my day, and im sure i'll be back on it tomorrow seeing what i can do with it and having a proper go at levels. Theres already some fun levels, nothing special yet but better than the cr*p i've done, and its quick and painless doing everything.
Really cant wait for it to come out next month, especially with all the BluRay content, the download was only 950mb and there was already tons of tutorial stuff (a few are simply video, most are videos in the background of a level where you can copy what they're doing in the video) but the other 39gb of textures, videos, and stuff.... cant wait.
Since when was it acceptable to pretend that someone else isnt alongside you and just try and force them off the road? You seem to think that if your on the inside for a corner you have license to anything you want, 'Got the inside? then just ram them off! they have NO right to be on the outside even if they right along side you, what do they think this is? Racing??'
No wonder your pricing up the cost of driving into a wall, we dont need you to explain how it happened, your logic tells us plenty.
Perhaps people shouldnt even bother turning for corners if they have the inside?
IF there was a wall, which there ISNT, so its purely hypothetical (more hy-pathetic)... if this was at Monaco, then they probably wouldnt have gone side by side, but if they had then Kimi would have been penalised for running Lewis and himself into the barrier. But i guess your arguement doesnt care to consider your hypatheical situation being at a Monaco enclosed track, just like it doesnt like the idea of it actually being at Spa with no barrier.
If someone was there, and you just decide your going to turn into a section of track which the other car would be occupying at the same time, then your driving into them! The difference at Spa was the fact that Kimi knew that forcing him off the track would give him track position and despite the fact that Lewis had a right to be there and was equally alongside him, he'd lose it all.
Where in this racing rulebook does it say 'he who holds the inside is god, and has the right to do whatever they want'??
Are you suggesting that provided your on the inside you can do what the hell you want, that anyone else on the track has absolutely no right to be on the same section of track with them?
What about a late diver, gets a nose overlap, absolutely sod all right to be there, but he has the inside... is that acceptable?? what do you mean no? But he has the inside!! Ram them off, its acceptable if you have the inside!!
How you can comment on Hamilton fanboys, yet here you are making irrational statements purely because its Hamilton... amazing.
Im pretty sure plenty didnt make mistakes, however he had nothing to gain in pushing, he just crawled round, those who had something to lose had to take risks to hold onto, massa had nothing to lose. So the fact that he'd given up on the race already and settled for 3rd place meant he was more deserving of the win than Kimi, who'd fought for the lead, pushed and scrapped to retain it in the bad weather? If you say so, but certainly not im most peoples books
Someone also said something along the lines of "at the start of the corner he was 2-3 car lengths behind him, so he gained"!?! I beg to differ, the start of the corner is at 0 yards, not 100 or 200 odd, they were side by side, infact Lewis was ~75% ahead at one point till Kimi realised there was far more grip than he'd anticipated for. On the same backwards logic, cant we just use the start of the race? Lewis was ahead then, Kimi gained!!
Well, at the moment i havent pre-ordered it, and with the US folks knowing where they need to pre-order it from so they can get a specific freebie, the only known freebie for EU is 'Nariko' from Play.com which i used to use when i had money to burn, but havent used for over 2yrs, although thats where i first pre-ordered GT5 about 2.5 years ago sounds like i've got a similar wait ahead too
Im not aware of any announcements for where Kratos will be found in EU, likewise the bag, stickerbook or game guide. Im not fussed about Heavenly Sword or GOW so the characters dont really mean much to me, however if they did a special edition with all the items, i'd probably buy that over the standard version.
Other than the Pre-Order goodie which is (region) exclusive to a specific store, im not aware of any other differences.
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Nope, not that i recall.
Im not sure whether he lifts or if he keeps it floored, however one thing he does do which is clear of what his intentions are, is he ALLOWED Kimi to get past him, he didnt block and try and hold onto the lead after cutting.
So for anyone to suggest he's trying to gain by cutting, would be incorrect IMO, however i guess the issue is simply the fact that despite giving the position back he still was able to take it back straight away, but that was despite Kimi being allowed through cleanly, him having a 4mph (or was it kph?) speed avantage over the S/F line, and having the opportunity to defend the corner, instead he decided to wiggle his car around under Lewis's nose and leave the door wide open for the pass.
Lewis did nothing short of avoid an incident after being forced off the track, and accepting Kimi's invitation to the pass when the door was opened and Lewis thanked him for it.
I'd say its a tough call though, but whats frustraiting is that it seems that whenever its a debatable issue, Ferrari get let off with 50/50's however Mclaren always seem to be punished for them, and its happening time and time again.
yeah, it feels more like 2005 when the Killzone2 trailer first came along and the nay-sayers all said it was BS, impossible to do, and the real game would look nothing like that, but they proved that wrong.
Hmm, Wikipedia says it was E3 2005, so im not sure what the big 2006 thing was, i was certain there was 2 years between the CGI trailer and the 99% identical trailer done with real time game footage.
Seems like 2006's was pretty empty, nothing much other than final technical specs leading up to the launch, couple of other things like warhawk, resistance etc
E3 2006 Sony: http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/709/709973p1.html
Hmm, Wikipedia says it was E3 2005, so im not sure what the big 2006 thing was, i was certain there was 2 years between the CGI trailer and the 99% identical trailer done with real time game footage.
Seems like 2006's was pretty empty, nothing much other than final technical specs leading up to the launch, couple of other things like warhawk, resistance etc
E3 2006 Sony: http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/709/709973p1.html
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