So the PS3 is inferior because developers dont utilise the hardware?
What i will say is this, by your viewpoint your far more intelligent than i am, you just dont use it.
Rafa Benitez visits the LFS Forum! (probably lost on you, but he's a stupid football manager who lost the plot and produced 'facts' which werent facts, and looked a prat, on top of it having a negative effect on his teams results)
Thats not a fact, it was about a year or so ago, but the vast majority of multi-platform developers have now realised if they're going to port to the PS3 in the same manner they had in the past (eg EAs port for Orange Box) then the PS3 community will not buy it because its terrible, so they're wasting their time. What they've now started doing is the lead development is done on PS3 and ported to 360 because its much easier and doesnt produce crap results. So the FACT is that development is done on PS3 for the majority of multi-plat games, those which want to profit from the PS3 side anyway.
Additionally, the PS3 doesnt lack graphical power, it lacks simplicity for cross-plat dev teams to spend a moment to understand the achetecture to get the best results from it. Exclusive titles are looking considerably better than cross-plat because they're taking the time to utilise the technology, rather than wanting results ASAP.
Considering the PS3 is graphically inferior as your suggesting, its bizarre how the games look better than 360 exclusives, the only time it wins arguments is on cross-plat, where the PS3 isnt fully utilised so its hardly a fair claim of superiority is it.
I have to admit, it does seem rather odd, memory isnt an expensive technology, but i guess the answer to that is business in general, if the price is £1 per item, it equates to at least £10 onto the end cost. So the inclusion of twice as much memory could have put the price up even more, and at a time when they're still supposedly making a loss on every console sold, every penny counts.
Still, if the results they've produced on the PS3 is with insufficient memory, i'd love to see what it could do with more! And if the reason you purchased a 360 over a PS3 is because it doesnt have as much memory, you sir are the quite possibly the single most stupid person on the planet. There may be many reasons to pick a 360 over a PS3, lack of memory is a pathetic attempt at a reason, not to mention a lie.
Maybe its for people who want to buy something reliable, that didnt have a 33% rate of failure in its first year, for the first 2 years it was on the market, or didnt destroy there DVDs even though MS knew about this problem FROM DAY ONE and still allowed it to go on shelves and ruin peoples games discs.
Statisticly you've got better odds of surviving a round of russian roullette than you have of getting a 360 thats reliable!
We'll ignore the fact that the technologicly superior xbox was on the market for only a couple of years before MS decided they had to release something new so they'd get an early market share, they rushed out a half-arsed machine which was marginally more advanced that the xbox. The only thing 'next-gen' on the 360 is a HDMI port... and it took over 2 years for them to figure that out, and isnt even in every model.
I say we demand F1rst go into drifting now, reject it as a joke and accept it as a legally binding agreement 
You prefer the xbox approach which uses motion sensors in a webcam in order to interact with the content? So kinda like what the PS2 had with Eyetoy? Microsoft have just copied what Sony created in 2003, only using a high resolution camera... just like the PS Eye, for the PS3 released in 2007
I think we'll call bias on this matter, that you prefer a limited and inferior idea copied from 2003, over a significant improvement on an existing and successful idea... its either fanboyism or complete lack of knowledge of existing identical products on the market place.
How is it more ambitious to replicate something which conceptually existed 6 years ago on its biggest rivals console, the only flaw as you point out is the lack of true interactivity within a environment because you cant truely control whats going on. Simple 3 dimentional movement isnt possible, you couldnt do something as basic as walk through a maze, but you can interact with something on a stationary setting like a menu system.
Your flaw also suggests additional controllers could be added, yet you dismiss the PS3's version because it copies an existing method, but suggest the solution to a glaringly limiting flaw is to copy existing technology.... a bit like copying the Eyetoy from 2003.
IMO the Xbox solution is more polished and near finished, despite the fact that theres noticable lag and half of what they've shown wasnt demo'd infront of an audience, so who knows what its really like.
The PS3's solution actually has a practical use, if used correctly. The Wii had the right idea with motion tracking, but it doesnt really meet up with standards the typical gamer would accept, it fits in with the casual gamer market though.
The Eyetoy hasnt gone beyond simple gimmicky games, just like the Wii, and its hard to see Natal bringing anything the gamer market would really be interested in. The PS3 option actually showcased tech demos which displayed how the technology can be used to enhance realism & immersion in games which people would play.
Both are highly questionable as to whether the practical uses given to each method can go beyond a gimmick, because people wont go out and buy millions of copies of a FPS game so they can play it virtually when its inferior to COD/Halo/Killzone etc. Right now though, i dont see Natal going beyond gimmick, the PS3 version has potential and if realised it should easily surpass Natal in its current Eyetoy replicating status.
I actually found this years E3 rather ironic. For years xbox fanboys have claimed the PS3 is a game playing media center, the xbox is a gaming machine. This E3 saw the 360's main announcements come in the form of new movie/TV station deals & a mediocre motion sensor which only seemed practical for navigating menu systems. The PS3 was all about new games (The vast majority exclusive to a PS only format, without $50m deals), and interactive technology with practical gaming aspects.
Best of british to you then, cos the first October you'll get to drive that will be in 2010. Best guess is worldwide release for March 2010, and its got next to no change of being this year as they wont even say what quarter let alone an actual release date.
p.s that 'sneak peak' video you posted, the whole world got the same 'sneak peak' via E3 4 days earlier
Most of the developers conferences were broadcast, the 3 console manufacturers certainly was and GT5 (& GT Mobile) were made only during Sony's conference.
Kaz Yamauchi was there to talk about the PSP version, but said nothing about the PS3 one, so best hope is for some announcement at the big Asian conference in a few months time.
Personally i dont play the GT series in the belief that its the most superior racing simulator around, i play it because I find it enjoyable, in many ways its superior to LFS, and equally its inferior to LFS.
With the GT series i get to drive round locations I can only see on TV, drive amazing cars i can only hope of seeing in real life, and it actually has a single player mode with challenges and AI which you can race against!
LFS has a community and online aspect which no console game will surpass, and more realistic physics (though not perfect).
I dont really understand the big deal really, GT has been about realistic driving but not so much so that it only appeals to a niche market. Its about as close to a simulator as i'd expect a console to go, in terms of accuracy/realism of feel.
Night & weather is supposed to be included, as said by Kaz himself (i know both night & wet surface was used in Tokyo tracks, but im guessing all tracks have it available to them). Damage hasnt been confirmed to any extent beyond the damaged rally car, hopefully its all cars but you couldnt be too suprised if it was limited to some race classes where damage was a regular occurance. Hopefully its not just visual damage too.
The other big rumour is some form of track editor, probably not a blank canvas if theres any truth to it, but it could be interesting... IF theres truth to it.
Anyone who hasnt seen the video of ModNation Racer should head to gametrailers.com and check that out, its a fun kart racer ala Mario Kart, but the big kicker is a truely amazing track editor capable of making attractive, detailed tracks within 5-10min which even a 6yr old could understand.
If GT5 or even GT6 could manage something similar with near photo realistic results, i'd never go outdoors ever again!!
That'll be the same contract which says Ferrari have the power to veto on any new rule, such as say a 2-tier rulebook?
If the FIA can get away with ignoring legal contracts, im sure Ferrari can.
I think its fantastic, and as a long standing F1 fan i hope the whole thing blows up in the FIA's face because im sick & tired of them messing about with the rules without consulting the people which make F1 what it is, and thats the teams. If you chose to completely ignore their opinion, then this is what happens.
This season is already quickly becoming the most exciting season since Schumacher won the season after winning 12 of the first 13 rounds or Mansells winning 8 of the first 10 races.
Still despite this, the media (the people paying to broadcast the races) will tell you its the most exciting season in years, simply because a team who decided to give up on their 2008 season after half a dozen races, have now got a decent car. Maybe thats what all teams should do? Turn up at Melbourne, if you dont win then sacrifice the season and start on next seasons car.
LFS Username: PaulC2K
Real name: Paul Chapman
Prefered number: 22
Car: XFG
Real name: Paul Chapman
Prefered number: 22
Car: XFG
Weeeeee, THATS MY DUCKIEPOOO'S!!!!
It seems they used a stand-in Duckie for the interview, the duckie i know makes stupid quacking noises while other people are trying to be serious and conduct a proper programme
We need a 'Hi Mum' message to every single person who replies in this post for your next interview, and take that #12 out at every opportunity!!
I also agree with the earlier comment, it should be Duck & Arrow, not Andrews & Hughes, DONT THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE???? :bowdown:
It seems they used a stand-in Duckie for the interview, the duckie i know makes stupid quacking noises while other people are trying to be serious and conduct a proper programme
We need a 'Hi Mum' message to every single person who replies in this post for your next interview, and take that #12 out at every opportunity!!
I also agree with the earlier comment, it should be Duck & Arrow, not Andrews & Hughes, DONT THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE???? :bowdown:
Without wishing to sound disrespectful if its genuine, but the fact that you mention the word drifting in there kinda makes the post hard to take seriously for most people i guess.
I mean racers dont really take drifting seriously, its pretty much the butt of every joke, so i have to be honest and say i dont know whether to believe its true or just a pisstake at how pathetic LFS has become through its own lack of progression.
We had Mercury Stunt Team for a while, just as a 'in-house' joke/pisstake, and it wouldnt suprise me if this was a light-hearted joke at how things are going.
Equally, it wouldnt suprise me if it was true (the 'Racing' aspect closing) because i know only too well how things are right now. I said to Rudy(vB) a few months back that IMO MoE is the only thing keeping teams together, and in turn keeping the racing community interested in LFS.
It still wasnt enough to keep Mercury going, and it honestly wouldnt suprise me if the same was true for F1rst, as daft as it sounds - winning MoE is cursed. You spend 9 months practicing your ass off, you spend all your spare time practicing and then at the end its fantastic, but your kinda all LFS'd out.
Unless you take it all as a bit of fun and enjoy the racing, theres so little variation that it doesnt take long before you become fed up of it.
I hope its a joke, even after your comment im not convinced eitherway, but it'd be a shame and yet another nail in LFS's coffin.
But hey, LFS isnt dying, the server logs say so
yeah, Josh asked if it was possible to use a server for the round, i gave him the details to log into the LFSPS account (only has access to server 2 of 2, merc being 1 of 2).
However last week before the last LFSPS race i swapped the configs around as i was getting some odd lag in there while everyone else was fine, i'd had it a few rounds.
So he's logged in and got access to server #2, which was labelled as the merc server.
Still, i figured he'd have rebranded it all, isnt like we'll be needing it anytime soon and i gave him the details so he could do all that if he wished.
However last week before the last LFSPS race i swapped the configs around as i was getting some odd lag in there while everyone else was fine, i'd had it a few rounds.
So he's logged in and got access to server #2, which was labelled as the merc server.
Still, i figured he'd have rebranded it all, isnt like we'll be needing it anytime soon and i gave him the details so he could do all that if he wished.
Thanks for all the kind comments so far guys, nice to hear Mercury will be missed.
We're all kinda down about the decision to close, but at the same time its not something we feel isnt right, we've unfortunately come to a point where theres insufficient desire to race at a competitive level which we'd be satisfied with. People were racing because we needed them to rather than them wanting to, and at the level we want to run at it needs that willingness to put in practice to get that.
Im sure a few of the Merc guys will still be involved in the big leagues from time to time, either as a guest drive or with another team, i think the real shame would be if those drivers stopped as a result of the team we've all worked hard to create being closed down.
I've updated the initial post to include the server password for this weeks fun, and also some info about how everyone can join in with things in there.
We're all kinda down about the decision to close, but at the same time its not something we feel isnt right, we've unfortunately come to a point where theres insufficient desire to race at a competitive level which we'd be satisfied with. People were racing because we needed them to rather than them wanting to, and at the level we want to run at it needs that willingness to put in practice to get that.
Im sure a few of the Merc guys will still be involved in the big leagues from time to time, either as a guest drive or with another team, i think the real shame would be if those drivers stopped as a result of the team we've all worked hard to create being closed down.
I've updated the initial post to include the server password for this weeks fun, and also some info about how everyone can join in with things in there.
Mercury 5yr anniversary & closing
On May 22nd 2004 Mercury racing was born, and on May 23rd 2009, the day after our 5 year anniversary we’ll be closing the team down.
It isn’t a decision we’ve taken lightly, the vast majority of the team have been involved in LFS since v0.1 days of 2002/03, and we’ve had some great times in LFS. Sadly the last 18 months or so has been quite disappointing in LFS, for the last year or so we’ve kept up appearances in leagues, but with nothing changing in LFSs development and no sign of improvement in the level of interest in racing with LFS, we’re not going to force our drivers to race in something they’ve no desire/passion to keep on playing and there aren’t signs of things arriving which will help motivate interest either.
Why Close...
The decision to close the team down was something we discussed behind closed doors 2 weeks ago, only 1 thing has really kept the team active in the last 12 months and that’s been MoE and even thats been a stuggle, aside from that there’s very little motivation to keep on racing. We’ve always prided ourselves on only inviting drivers we’ve felt would build upon the team, and while im sure we’d have been able to recruit plenty of new members allowing us to keep the team going, the core part of Mercury wouldn’t be there and we’re not interested in watering down what we’ve achieved simply to keep the team name going, while building an almost completely new team in a game which is seeing the racing aspect of its community fade away. Mercury is/was as much about being part of a family as it was a racing team, its the people who have made it special, not the name, and replacing the people just to keep the name was never going to work.
We'd like to thank...
Regardless of how the future looks in LFS, in the 5 years we’ve been together as a team we’ve had a lot of fun, we wanted to start something special and become recognised as one of the best teams in LFS, we feel we’ve achieved that and we’ve been fortunate to be involved in some of the best races & events witnessed in LFS. We’d like to thank the LFS Devs for what they’ve done, we understand their approach to their ‘game’ and we’ve always applauded the fact that they’ve aimed for perfection rather than a deadline so they can rush something through, its just a real shame that the pace of development has got to a point where the part of the community we are involved in has been gradually fading away for the same reasons we’re calling it a day. The fact that LFS has been around for over 6 years for many of us, and there still isn’t anything around which comes close to matching what LFS has, even as an unfinished product, which speaks volumes for what they’ve achieved. Its the game which brought us together, without their hard work we wouldn’t have met and formed such a great relationship with each other, so we’ll always be thankful for that.
We’d also like to thank the vast number of league organisers who’ve given us a reason to form as a team, a target to aim for, and something we’ve had hours and hours of enjoyment from. Your dedication to providing something for the community to enjoy, from short sprint races to 24hr endurance races, we owe you guys a huge thanks because our reason for creating the team was to be involved in these events, to take the racing serious and have fun doing just that, and every season the leagues have got better and better, and its good and well being in a racing team, but without the leagues there’s just no point.
Lastly, thanks to everyone in the community, it kinda makes event racing more enjoyable when theres other people to race against, and we’ve certainly had some great races over the years. As a whole the level of racing at the top has been great, and having competition who are honest, fair and challenging has given us some great memories and we hope that never changes.
Going out with a bang...
This coming week quite a few of the guys who’ve been inactive for some time will be coming back and we’ll be spending most week nights on our server and having one last week together, we’ll be throwing on some of the various skins we’ve used over the years and remind ourselves of the fun we’ve had over the years. The server will be private, but we’d like to invite the community to join us as we celebrate our time together, I’ll post the password in this thread for Monday and hopefully the people who want to join us will do so, without the risk of random folks joining and ruining races.
We’re not entirely sure what we’ll be doing on Friday 22nd, but chances are it’ll just be team members only, other nights will be open to others to join us. Hopefully we’ll get some good racing and we’ll go out with a bang rather than a whimper.
Life after Mercury...
On the 23rd we’ll be officially closing the team down, we’ve already passed on our support and best wishes to our drivers if they wish to look for another team, and im sure those who are still interested in being part of a team will make inquiries with those teams when they are ready, in the meantime we’d ask that people refrain from sending PM’s to everyone. If any of our drivers wish to receive offers then they can post in this thread making their intentions clear, and you can get in contact with them.
I think a fair amount of us will still be found running the skins on the rare occasion we're racing regardless of the team being closed, we had hoped to use the 5yr occasion to bring everyone together and try and remotivate, but sadly we're all people who want to race competitively, but the time required to be at the level our drivers insist on being at means you can only really do it if your motivated and passionate about it, and unfortuately that time passed quite a while back.
Thanks,
(\/) Mercury Racing Team.
Server: (V) Mercury Racing
Password: cya
Just a small update to things:
1) Server password is posted above, i'd imagine a few people will be in there from 20-22UTC till quite early hours
2a) Anyone who wishes to, will be allowed to run in Mercury colours for the week ONLY inside the Mercury server, its not a forced thing but everyone who wants to is welcome to do so as a bit of fun.
2b) Anyone already in a team needs to make sure them running in Merc colours isnt going to cause any strife, we dont wanna hear about people being kicked out cos they're driving in another teams colours, but if they're cool with it, great.
http://mercuryracingteam.com/skins/
I've put LX4 @ KY2r (KY2r is good fun with any car) which i think most people would enjoy as a fun car, im sure we'll swap tracks from time to time but i think we'll probably stick to a specific car/class per night rather than keep swapping around.
It isn’t a decision we’ve taken lightly, the vast majority of the team have been involved in LFS since v0.1 days of 2002/03, and we’ve had some great times in LFS. Sadly the last 18 months or so has been quite disappointing in LFS, for the last year or so we’ve kept up appearances in leagues, but with nothing changing in LFSs development and no sign of improvement in the level of interest in racing with LFS, we’re not going to force our drivers to race in something they’ve no desire/passion to keep on playing and there aren’t signs of things arriving which will help motivate interest either.
Why Close...
The decision to close the team down was something we discussed behind closed doors 2 weeks ago, only 1 thing has really kept the team active in the last 12 months and that’s been MoE and even thats been a stuggle, aside from that there’s very little motivation to keep on racing. We’ve always prided ourselves on only inviting drivers we’ve felt would build upon the team, and while im sure we’d have been able to recruit plenty of new members allowing us to keep the team going, the core part of Mercury wouldn’t be there and we’re not interested in watering down what we’ve achieved simply to keep the team name going, while building an almost completely new team in a game which is seeing the racing aspect of its community fade away. Mercury is/was as much about being part of a family as it was a racing team, its the people who have made it special, not the name, and replacing the people just to keep the name was never going to work.
We'd like to thank...
Regardless of how the future looks in LFS, in the 5 years we’ve been together as a team we’ve had a lot of fun, we wanted to start something special and become recognised as one of the best teams in LFS, we feel we’ve achieved that and we’ve been fortunate to be involved in some of the best races & events witnessed in LFS. We’d like to thank the LFS Devs for what they’ve done, we understand their approach to their ‘game’ and we’ve always applauded the fact that they’ve aimed for perfection rather than a deadline so they can rush something through, its just a real shame that the pace of development has got to a point where the part of the community we are involved in has been gradually fading away for the same reasons we’re calling it a day. The fact that LFS has been around for over 6 years for many of us, and there still isn’t anything around which comes close to matching what LFS has, even as an unfinished product, which speaks volumes for what they’ve achieved. Its the game which brought us together, without their hard work we wouldn’t have met and formed such a great relationship with each other, so we’ll always be thankful for that.
We’d also like to thank the vast number of league organisers who’ve given us a reason to form as a team, a target to aim for, and something we’ve had hours and hours of enjoyment from. Your dedication to providing something for the community to enjoy, from short sprint races to 24hr endurance races, we owe you guys a huge thanks because our reason for creating the team was to be involved in these events, to take the racing serious and have fun doing just that, and every season the leagues have got better and better, and its good and well being in a racing team, but without the leagues there’s just no point.
Lastly, thanks to everyone in the community, it kinda makes event racing more enjoyable when theres other people to race against, and we’ve certainly had some great races over the years. As a whole the level of racing at the top has been great, and having competition who are honest, fair and challenging has given us some great memories and we hope that never changes.
Going out with a bang...
This coming week quite a few of the guys who’ve been inactive for some time will be coming back and we’ll be spending most week nights on our server and having one last week together, we’ll be throwing on some of the various skins we’ve used over the years and remind ourselves of the fun we’ve had over the years. The server will be private, but we’d like to invite the community to join us as we celebrate our time together, I’ll post the password in this thread for Monday and hopefully the people who want to join us will do so, without the risk of random folks joining and ruining races.
We’re not entirely sure what we’ll be doing on Friday 22nd, but chances are it’ll just be team members only, other nights will be open to others to join us. Hopefully we’ll get some good racing and we’ll go out with a bang rather than a whimper.
Life after Mercury...
On the 23rd we’ll be officially closing the team down, we’ve already passed on our support and best wishes to our drivers if they wish to look for another team, and im sure those who are still interested in being part of a team will make inquiries with those teams when they are ready, in the meantime we’d ask that people refrain from sending PM’s to everyone. If any of our drivers wish to receive offers then they can post in this thread making their intentions clear, and you can get in contact with them.
I think a fair amount of us will still be found running the skins on the rare occasion we're racing regardless of the team being closed, we had hoped to use the 5yr occasion to bring everyone together and try and remotivate, but sadly we're all people who want to race competitively, but the time required to be at the level our drivers insist on being at means you can only really do it if your motivated and passionate about it, and unfortuately that time passed quite a while back.
Thanks,
(\/) Mercury Racing Team.
Server: (V) Mercury Racing
Password: cya
Just a small update to things:
1) Server password is posted above, i'd imagine a few people will be in there from 20-22UTC till quite early hours
2a) Anyone who wishes to, will be allowed to run in Mercury colours for the week ONLY inside the Mercury server, its not a forced thing but everyone who wants to is welcome to do so as a bit of fun.
2b) Anyone already in a team needs to make sure them running in Merc colours isnt going to cause any strife, we dont wanna hear about people being kicked out cos they're driving in another teams colours, but if they're cool with it, great.
http://mercuryracingteam.com/skins/
I've put LX4 @ KY2r (KY2r is good fun with any car) which i think most people would enjoy as a fun car, im sure we'll swap tracks from time to time but i think we'll probably stick to a specific car/class per night rather than keep swapping around.
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awwww, so much early promise, and then in came b*witched, Steps, S Club and Cartoons.... hang your head in shame :P
Its funny seeing songs like Doop and Saturday Night popping up, infact most of the songs listed bring back memories. Also, whats the deal with Doop sounding like the music from Blind Date?!?
oh, and the 'H-Blockx' rock version of snap's The Power is pretty decent too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJQy8_Qev28
I cant believe we've had Rhythem is a Dancer and Mr Vain, yet no sign of The Shamen's Ebeneezer Goode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0Mzr_A-Q0I
I've seen multiple threads on other forums which have just decended into reciting the lyrics line by line by half a dozen forum members, its just a classic tune, and deserves to have been mentioned before now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0Mzr_A-Q0I
I've seen multiple threads on other forums which have just decended into reciting the lyrics line by line by half a dozen forum members, its just a classic tune, and deserves to have been mentioned before now
Thanks for the kind comments, i'd been considering launching a new series for some time and knew if I was going to do it then it wasnt going to be half-arsed, I wanted to push things a little further and use the opportunity to learn a few things as I go.
Still plenty more to be done though, for LFSPS and to take the sites workings and make it accessable to other league admins to use on a centralised site. I started this a couple of years back, which made putting LFSPS together much easier however some of the big changes meant the original code wasnt compatable with the central site, so thats getting redone for the summer hopefully as im already getting requests to use what LFSPS has.
Still plenty more to be done though, for LFSPS and to take the sites workings and make it accessable to other league admins to use on a centralised site. I started this a couple of years back, which made putting LFSPS together much easier however some of the big changes meant the original code wasnt compatable with the central site, so thats getting redone for the summer hopefully as im already getting requests to use what LFSPS has.
IMO they're dangerous if both tyres are being critisised by the people who have to use them. If its the opinion of the drivers, then its usually a decent indication.
When you force the pack to have completely differing speed, braking points, grip levels etc throughout the race then your asking for trouble.
Its a gimick to supposedly make it more interesting for the viewer so it looks like theres something happening, and as i suggested earlier, they could do that by making the drivers jump out of the car, down 2 pints, and go back out racing again, they could have some crazy fun with that too. Its not Run the Gauntlet or Its a Knockout, its racing, whats wrong with letting people race without this need of making them do something they wouldnt dream of doing unless they were forced. Its not for safety reasons, its a silly gimmick to fake action.
So the appeal has already been thrown out then i guess
As for Ferrari, they had a similar start, first 2 races they had problems and iirc they didnt do to badly after that, however they did have a car that was the fastest, rather than being part of the midfield, like Mclaren & Renault. They seem the better of the 3 teams though, and they've not lost too much IMO.
I just think the tyres are dangerous, in a time when everything seems to be heavily focused on slowing the cars down for safety reasons, what part of forcing the drivers to use at least 1 unsafe racing tyre?
As Jenson said, The choice (Med) tyre was getting really cold and was horrible to drive with (prolly due to safety car being out beforehand), and the super soft tyre was clearly only good for about 10-12 laps of a 58(?) lap race.
Also, an evening start probably didnt help with the harder tyres getting colder, but just think how long the softer set would have lasted if it was a 1pm start there.
KERS i still think is a good idea, anything that increases the chance of overtaking is a plus in my book. Its free power (asside from the millions spent developing it) which will create chances that people can talk about, instead of the only highlights of races being controversial decisions or driver mistakes/crashes. Watching Lewis suddenly have the ability to race right up someones rear to make a pass is great, and it'll be the same when its Massa/Kimi or anyone else doing that to Lewis.
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And those annoying Ford adverts with the muppets playing the bits of Ford Focus :irked:
No, just rubber marbles!
Thank you, im here all week... or maybe not
Only 5 days till it all starts up again
Roll on Sepang, Malaysia.
Also, on those dummy spitting matters above:
IMO Rubens should have been penalised, it was poor driving. Love the guy since he was in the 7up/Pepsi Jordon (have the little Onyx model somewhere) along with Gugelmin who i also liked, but so many silly mistakes...
IMO the Diffusers are fine, i'd prefer that they werent cos i'd sooner see Lewis nearer the top, but if the rules dont say... i think the decision will stand.
Safety car should have been out straight away, everyone could see that, and its a disgrace that it took over 2 laps.
Roll on Sepang, Malaysia.
Also, on those dummy spitting matters above:
IMO Rubens should have been penalised, it was poor driving. Love the guy since he was in the 7up/Pepsi Jordon (have the little Onyx model somewhere) along with Gugelmin who i also liked, but so many silly mistakes...
IMO the Diffusers are fine, i'd prefer that they werent cos i'd sooner see Lewis nearer the top, but if the rules dont say... i think the decision will stand.
Safety car should have been out straight away, everyone could see that, and its a disgrace that it took over 2 laps.
They've just taken Schumachers first title away
Decent race, despite all the nonsense behind it all.
Interesting points:
• KERS Looks worthwhile, especially if your stuck behind slower cars (ie out of position)
• Mclaren might not be fastest, but having Lewis behind the wheel, against lesser drivers in faster cars, he could be able to out race them even if he cant beat them on plain qualifying or clear lap racing.
• Ferrari start another season with unreliability
• PLENTY of quick cars and look to be evenly paced.
Dont like the whole mixed back of 2009, but there should be some interesting racing for half the season, we'll see how things settle after initial development to fix the miscalculations.
Last edited by PaulC2K, .
what a pair of n00bs
4th/5th for Hamilton too, not too shabby all things considered. As damage limitation goes anyway
oh, and Lewis probably would have got pwned by Glock too, he was going 2sec faster and was right up his ass
4th/5th for Hamilton too, not too shabby all things considered. As damage limitation goes anyway
oh, and Lewis probably would have got pwned by Glock too, he was going 2sec faster and was right up his ass
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