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pik_d
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about as slow as a FOX and 100x more boring. If you wanna do IR on the BF1 take it down to 550-625 HP, not 266 HP
pik_d
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no thanks
pik_d
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But should the values be the same? It's something I've noticed over the past week or so, not just today. Has the actual formula changed?
pik_d
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I can confirm that WR tables are up to date, I checked the latest WR that's been uploaded on LFSW and it was correct in !wr. Can't restart Airio because Franky is messing with the CP and well idk. :S
pik_d
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OK, so it would make sense that two of my online PBs would fall from the 1st category to the 4th with this new way of handling WRs?
pik_d
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Vista an Win7 both use the GPU to draw the desktop, so it's the same principle in theory.
pik_d
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Quote from hp999 :I see... If you can stand the old Windows theme, try changing to that. The original Vista theme sucked the graphics cars up a bit.

I'm pretty sure when you start up a game it stops rendering the desktop, that shouldn't actually be a problem.
pik_d
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Off the top of my head, a few possible culprits

Have you run windows updates and installed your video drivers?

Go to your Nvidia Control Panel and turn options more towards "Performance" and not "Quality"

Turn the options down in the game itself. Generally move all the graphics options to the left.
pik_d
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Quote from EQ Worry :Yes, I know what you mean. Still, the custom cars support is working quite well I think and could be extended. But to have an understandable system the new car names should be somehow obvious and meaningful. The Baby/Junior separation looks good, and I think it is better to do it earlier than later.

Again, I don't control the servers. I know NDR's dekojester has run UF-BR vs. XF-JR in the past (both a really old league and as a public server), and sa|haVoc (who asked for the XFJ in this thread) has a server with them set up. I'm sure you can somehow find out which servers people are driving XFJ on, if you want people to change the name you will have to talk to them.


Quote from EQ Worry :Wow, hm. Basically the core calculation is done at airio.eu, so it is the same for all FULL Airios. Local Airios only supply input data, so the difference could be a result of some data not available temporarily. Maybe your hotlaps were not downloaded properly from LFSW, and in that case incomplete data would be used for the calculation. Anyway, I just checked and it gave me exactly the same number as on AirAttack.

I have joined a few different servers to test now.
cargame.nl and AirAttack give me one value: 746.2
sa|ngl lite and NDR.GTAL 2010 give another: 747.3

I have attached the "Calculation Details" for both. You are right in that the hotlap index is what changes between the two numbers. The only reason I bring it us is that it is consistently different. I have started going to cargame.nl a few times a week, and of course I visit my own teams servers regularly, and my EI is always lower when I go to cargame.nl. Also I raced a bit on cargame.nl today, it started at 745.9 and rose up to 746.2 as I raced more. It never jumped up to 747.x, so it was either missing hotlaps every single time, or it was in fact using a different calculation compared to other servers.

My theory is that when you changed the percentages from WR for the calculation (back in 2.4.0 I think?) something got flubbed up in the clean install vs. upgrade/overwrite methods.

As I type this, I notice that Cargame.nl and AirAttack are on v2.4.3, compared to v2.4.2 of the others. Has something changed in this update?

Quote from EQ Worry :Yup, the stats start to be useful there. Just today I extended the chart to 24 hours and changed what servers are displayed to something more informative. I'd like to add weekly chart too, maybe, and some Airio servers stats as well...

PS: Currently supported cars table, ha... I need to make one, somehow, somewhere...

What you might do on that chart is have 800 on the left side as it is now, then put 80 on the right, and have a visual key below telling you which number you use for the line/shaded region.

Quote from EQ Worry :
PPS: XFR had 22%, UFR then 24% (thx for info goes to babyonwheels). In the new AIRW paradigm they could be Junior-level cars, XFJ and UFJ...

Or maybe following the example GTRs and GT2 they could be XF2 and UF2, allowing UFB and XFJ to be equals.
pik_d
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Well obviously whoever came up with the XFJ wasn't looking ahead to Airio being invented It sounds like the two options are:

A) Change nothing, keep it slightly confusing mixing Jr. and Baby. Easier on those who know the car and have Airio set up.

B) Change everything, re-define what the XFJ/B is called. Will cause problems unless everything is updated at once, but follows a standard format.

The engineer in me prefers B, but the the stubborn racer prefers A because that's just how it already is if you know what I mean. I don't know how many people this would affect and cause issues for, but I do know there are a few Airio powered servers that would need changing, and I don't control.... any of them.


Slightly related:

When you were racing with XFR w/ 23%, was it matched to a UFR, and what was it called locally?

Very unrelated:

Cargame.nl S2 seems to be messed up. Their LFSEI calculations are different from every other Airio server even with the same Airio version. Please yell at them or whatever it is you do.

Last edit I swear:

http://stats.airio.eu/PPL.aspx Is looking really good as the weeks go on. 9195 S2 users and 18263 demo users in the past 2 weeks. A bit more than I expected actually.
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pik_d
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Would that cause trouble if we have it defined as XFJ on our server and you have it XFB on Autio, and you had XFJ as something else?
pik_d
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There are no officially hosted servers by the LFS developers (maybe hidden test servers, but nothing public). Most servers are hosted through places like 500Servers, UKDedigamers, Alien Serve and more, which are companies which specialize in hosting servers for online games. These places should have good low ping unless you're too far away (Australia, Japan, South America), but since you're in Sweden you should be OK.

Other people can and do host servers from their homes, but I think this is in the minority for S2 servers.
pik_d
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S2 servers are not more "real" than demo servers, the only difference is the content. Lag depends on how close you are to the server and the quality of your own connection and the connection of the server.

Yes, you can check here to see what kind of S2 servers there are (not sure if demo users can see S2 servers from within LFS). There always seems to be a few drift servers with people on them.
pik_d
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It's been suggested plenty of times, help has been offered (for free) plenty of times, but the dev's position has been made clear. Yes it would mean more people could work, but it's not what they want so it's not going to happen.
pik_d
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Quote from lizardfolk :I would protest, but it's only a warning so I'm not going to try to defend myself any further. But....just so I understand where the admins will stand on these kinds of incidents:

Clarification (NOT A PROTEST):

Similar incident on lap 9.
Timecode 7:12.91.
Was car #777 or me in the wrong for that?

I'm not an admin, just your friendly SC, but I've of course got my own opinion. In both incidents it looked like the car going for the inside (You in the first one, 777 in the 2nd) went for a spot that was too small for a FO8 to fit into.

In your incident You fit fine at first, but when you got to the apex there would never have been enough room unless both 95 and 08 both moved to the right, and fast. If 95 were more experienced in 3 car drafting he would have been further to the right, giving 08 space to let you through on the inside. Maybe you were counting on that, I don't know, but the reality of the situation was much different.

In the 2nd incident, 777 had to go on the grass to avoid you, clearly he shouldn't have tried that. He just had the momentum from the draft and the car needed to go somewhere. I saw that live and just about hit "Home" to get back in the SC and drive off, I was sure you were gonna get taken out.

Quote from mk1golf :Can't comment 'till i see a replay , sry

KY1_race_57L_7R_9F.mpr
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pik_d
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I dunno that, other then maybe they find it funny? I bet if he sees this thread he'll get a good laugh from his effort.
pik_d
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A few people do this, it honestly doesn't hurt anyone. They upload hotlaps that don't get verified because they're speed hacking. The system automatically takes them down in under a minute.

It's people who cheat online that are actually a problem.
pik_d
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Quote from DeadWolfBones :I should be there, though I don't think that'll give me enough to actually race. :P

You only need one more.
pik_d
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Quote from EQ Worry :Yup, there's a good chance I could. One suggestion though: Why not call it XFB (Baby XFR), so that we have UFB and XFB, two baby GTL cars? Seems more, uhm, kind of systematic, to me...

Because it's the XF-JR. It's less common than the UFB (UF-BR) but it's already got an accepted name.
pik_d
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Quote from JasonJ :Probably will turn out to be quite annoying when you try to chat to your mates in LFS.

/exit

This is true for anything suggested in this thread. If you typed anything with 'e' in the word it would do the bind then "enter" and your message would be displayed as:

Skagen : You'll n/ctrlf 2 /press 8

instead of

Skagen : You'll never beat me!


Trust me on this, it's quite embarrassing to hit binded keys when you're trying to chat.
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WR Replay download pack missing replays
pik_d
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The "ALL" link here does not include all WR replays. All replays that are missing are by (FIN)Eza so I assume it's something to do with the '(' character.
pik_d
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Yeah, that strangeness is the "bug" I reported.
"Lost Souls" Racing online
pik_d
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In a conversation between EQ Worry, myself, and some others on some online stats gathering, we came across a peculiar anomaly. It seems that there are two different counts that we can find for how many racers are online at any given time.

Look here

To quote myself:

Quote from pik_d :The LFSW count has the same discrepancy. On the left you see "Racers (687)" and over on the right you see "There are currently 874 racers online in LFS. (432 Demo - 442 Licensed)". I had just refreshed both boxes, so it's not different because one of them is an hour old.

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pik_d
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When I say accurate, I'm talking about the 200 or so "lost souls" that we can't seem to find.

Edit: Because I am very curious I've started a thread in the Live for Speed > Bug Reports > Bugs - Websites section.
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pik_d
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The LFSW count has the same discrepancy. On the left you see "Racers (687)" and over on the right you see "There are currently 874 racers online in LFS. (432 Demo - 442 Licensed)". I had just refreshed both boxes, so it's not different because one of them is an hour old.

At roughly the same time (well, in the time it took me to take a screenshot and write /\ that /\ paragraph), your stats say:

L+D 374+280
T-D 654

So from this we can see that it is *more* (not all) demo users that are "lost". Hacked games maybe? Really old versions of LFS that aren't reported in the left hand list? I wonder if it would get a reply if we submitted it as a website "bug" .

Edit: Also I should add, this is pretty much exactly what I was asking for, so long as it can be considered accurate. The 3 days - 4 weeks all being the same confuses me though.
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