Quote from Jakg :

...is it me or have there been a shedload of Mercury members in this thread suddenly?

Sorry what? You post twice 4 pages into a discussion and you say all of Mercury are posting suddenly? Yeh.... Right on buddy, right on.


As for tops times this week thats a tough one to answer, I haven't even given the combo a run yet so I can't even hazard a guess. Ill just say 1.01.7X

I really got to get some sleep now, k bye.

Last edited by Rooble, Thu 19 Jul 2007, 02:31.

Lep, you've obviously taken this whole thread in the wrong light as I can see no one intentionally trying to offend you. And like you said everyone can have their opinions and you don't mind what they are, so practice what you preach and move on.

DieKoll, Your post was pretty bloody amusing but I have no idea why your dream occupation has any influence on a discussion concerning driver talent. I hope you don't feel offended that I go ahead and add that into my signature as a quote, cause I think its cool

Quote from Clownpaint :

That was my point, wasn't it?

Yeah but it come across as it being the deciding factor, which it probably isn't give that there a plenty of people with 40K+ online with a shed load of hotlaps offline to go with it.




evilgeek : Feel free to state your opinion but if its useless and insulting then why bother posting it to begin with?

Jack, Sorry but your theory doesn't really prove anything other than these guys hotlap offline more then most people. Look at Sracer and his stats the guy has probably driven in total including hotlaps *guess* 35K, I'm sure I could find a handful of other hotlappers with plenty more on/offline miles that will never be as fast as him.

As for the high profile league races well the guy had to be fast to get in there to begin with, so he had even less miles at the time.



evilgeek : Lovin the out of a cereal box cliché quote, but go away.

There's no doubt that after 100K you'll be fast, but you'll never be able to push a car like others who are faster still. Some people have the ability and some do not, I think I fall into the category of not having it but I can deal with that - just got to clock up miles and hope 'experience' carries my slow ass along.

A good indication of those 'experience' drivers are the guys who always select the same car to keep up, yeah you know what I'm talking about!

Or anyone who dislikes RWD :lovies3d:

I'm guessing no one has ever seen this before because I for one haven't, so I've posted it here for your viewing pleasure.

Hot Butter - Popcorn : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdWDJCKEh8k
Super Mario Bro : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0bKq3x74UE
Bohemian Rhapsody : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOyEw9bT8yQ

http://www.youtube.com/user/gunecologist - Thats the guys profile page, he has many many more.

Another one bites the dust!

Quote from der butz :

May I ask a question? WHAT ON EARTH is "german engineering"?

Vorsprung durch Technik









Zeh Germans kann make ein auto wiz Heinz Bake und Beans, und we like to party in cardigans und pullovers.
Danke.
Ja.
Mein bitchens.

So what alternative do I have?

A) Add license protection to keep demo users out and keep the moderators happy, and deal with the countless amounts of request PM/threads for the mod.

B) Release it into the public away from the official community and drive all the demo users elsewhere for help/support/requests. This just invites illegal activities from other users with cracking and such, and rids the reasonable amount of control the devs/moderators have on the community made software.

No need to reply back to this post, as this topic has run its course and I'm clear on the matter.

K Bye.

See the problem I see is that none of what you guys are trying to point out are stated in the rules located : http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=11762

Which leads me to believe you guys just say and do as you wish, I'm not here to cause trouble or to stir anything. But I don't agree on the 'you must do this' and 'you cannot do that, unless we agree to it' when it was never stated in the rules. You get meh?

The harder you grip, the more I'll wriggle.

That ain't no sexual innuendo you dirty minded people

Quote from Bob Smith :

In order to release a mod on these forums (not a little external tool like most of what gets posted in the unofficial add-ons), you must seek authorisation from the forum moderators. The devs don't have time to look over mods, so have left the responsibility with us. In the case of LFS tweak, we didn't like the idea that it gave potentially unlimited new vehicles to anyone, so it removed a large part of the incentive to demo users to purchase a license. We asked redrum to add license checking so it would only work for licensed users. He complied, added the feature, and after some testing, we were willing to have it posted here. BeSpoke was less necessary but the programs author decided to add it anyway.

Of course you can make whatever you want and release it away from these forums, but if it weren't allowable here you'd be going against the devs wishes. That may or may not particularly concern you, it's all down to respect. Kegetys could release his other works on his website and there's nothing we can do, but he has been asked not to and he has agreed. We wouldn't ban your account (forum or otherwise) just for that but would remove the content if posted here, and any references to it.

I think that covers everything.

See this is where I'm just a little bit confused, I had always assumed a moderators duty was to moderate forums, basically keep the place in check and keep it tidy. Now you're saying you decide whats goes and what doesn't on the grounds that the devs are just too busy. So what is your position in the community, because it seems your 'power' extends a little further then the forum.


My question above is nulled if the devs actually instructed you to remove any tweak that allows demo users to modify car settings, but I haven't read anything on the matter so you can see why I'm just a little bit puzzled. Finally you say it takes away part of the incentive for the demo users to buy S2 as it gave potentially unlimited new vehicles to anyone, but that isn't the case really as you still drive the XRT/XRG/XFG just with more or less power.

And shouldn't the incentive be 'oh i like this game - even the community is fun' and not 'you cant have XYZ until you've payed with your SOUL'. Everyone was always ranting on at how we mistreat demo users because they don't have a license, this is no different. In some respect I can see why Phlos did all the stuff he did do, although I don't agree with it fully.

K bye.

Quote from XCNuse :

Because you must have a license (either S1 or S2) to use LFSTweak.

I have one question, when did this become 'THE RULE' - Why can't I release my potential tool to the demo public?

Not that I have intentions to, but each time I read that statement it just spurs me on a little more to actually put time and effort into releasing a proper tool for demo users.

Since redrum released his old tweak and added some cheap license protection in, it seems everyone needs to now have an S2 license to use these types of tweaks/tools.

So is this a RULE? Must I abide by it? Will my license be nulled if I release a tweak to the demo user group?

Edit: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=11762 - I just answered it for myself, seems there is no rule just some type of community enforced thing.

Last edited by Rooble, Thu 12 Jul 2007, 18:59.

Yeah I have a chunk of it.

Ill PM you the link later.

Quote from XtremDriver :

If you talk about cones, I have a lot of replays with people hitting cones

It's called lag and it happens often when you do a fast lap as I done, because you drive very close to cones

HAHA

LAG?

I admire your thinking and how you went about developing this cheat, I'm still not 100% sure how you've done it but it does look intresting Ill have to play with some ideas later see If I can replicate it

Quote from GreekLover :

hey guys does it runs ok on vista because when i start the exe (tweak) it sais "component "comctl32.ocx" or one of tis dependencies not correctly registered: a file missing or innvalid

Do u have any ideas?

Thanks
mrdrifter

Read the first post.

Whats with the TM's and © and such?

Quote from wsinda :

Except that statistics is a tricky subject, and some people really suck with mathematics.

(EDIT: sorry, make that most people.)

Last week in the UK, a terrorist plot was foiled. The planners were all medics. Now, will you be afraid next time you visit a doctor? Not even one bit? Why not?

I don't think occupation really comes into it as it really doesn't really mean anything, but what doesn't surprise me is this.

Quote :

Suspect Don Stewart Whyte converted to Islam only six months ago.

"He's not a radical, when you see him, he was just, he did look up Islam a lot like recently, but he only looked it up in like the way that affected his life," says his friend says Jan-Sher Bhatti.

Seems like Islam defiantly changed his life, right?

Get out more.

SamH: What you said is wrong in so many ways that theres no point even going into it, we both know how it would end. Also your style or 'tone' is so patronizing its pointless even trying to talk with you, and with your minions jumping in giving you support it just looks like another playground war.

kurent: There is truth to that but without actually explaining it properly you'll just be seen as yet another skin head/nazi/white supremacist, so you better leave it out or they'll get ya!

aoun: Just ignore the tit, he'll probably give up after 10 minutes once he's realized he wont get a reaction out of you.

Quote from SamH :

The truth is that most people in the world are not actually too bright, and the rest don't think often outside the box. Prejudice is based in mistrust and spread by the stupid through fearmongery. None of the racists I've ever met have been thinkers, even the ones who had the smarts. I meet a racist and I immediately think "moron", these days. I guess I'm just prejudiced against idiocy

Wow that was probably the most stupid thing I've ever read from you SamH, honestly that deserves a place in my signature.

Edit: Oh dear it wont allow me to use it as my forum signature as it exceeds the limit of 4 lines, I guess ill have to link it

Quote from Jakg :

120 fps vids? UTTERLY pointless seeing as i don't know anyone with a 120 Hz monitor

You obviously know very few people as my monitor is good for 170Hz

Good stuff, although the drifting part was a let down.

Quote from Tomba(FIN) :

So when the bespoke and tweak comes to patch x? I am waiting:bounce8:

E: Sorry, Did i post this to wrong place?

Help me and Ill code it for you

I have finished a very basic and small application to enable you to tweak the 3 demo cars, I wont be doing anymore on it because I've just thought of something much better!

Anyway, if you're patched for X3 (test patch) I can send you this small tool and you can mess with it, just need to understand theres only like 3 options on it (for test purposes) so it's nothing like LFSTweak or such. I'm still trying to work out a decent method of finding different memory addresses, so for now this is all I have.

K BYE

Edit: If anyone has any past experience in memory manipulation (preferably LFS) then PM and ill pass you my msn address!

I don't believe what I'm reading here Niko, you've left DR to form yet another team?

Ok so how long will this team last then? Just give us an estimate, nothing too precise now unless of course you've already decided a date to end the team.

Quote from Sumi78 :

YEAH...more power on slower cars..no extra weights

You're only saying that cause you can only drive the FZR, and now it sucks


Its a shame really how the FZR is at the moment, its become the new FXR that no one touches. Its completely lost its zing, just feels like some bloated tank that just doesn't move.

Less weight on the FXR (so it don't eat tires as fast)
More power to the XRR (maybe do something about the lag)
Leave the FZR as is