Quote from danowat :

It's all just being blown out of all preportion IMO, I bet Xcnuse never even knew of his "special" status.

However, we all know how the "internet" population love a good witch hunt.

Yeah so you better agree to the general flow of things here before we turn this into a danowat witch hunt, and we all know what a good ol "internet" witch hunt can do to a person.

danowat: It isn't really about an avatar though is it?

Its being told to do this and never to say that and accept this or get this, although this is only a forum its still a community and as such what you see here is reminiscent of what you get in the real world. People waving the big stick at you telling you how to live your life or face a fine or prison time, you either comply or they deny you what it is you want and everyone sits back and takes it.

Now ain't that fair?

I believe J.B has a separate S2 license account that he uses when he wants to go racing online, and has kept this demo name purely for forum use. Besides where's the harm in him having an avatar as a demo user? No one seems to have mentioned it before and now people want him to change?

Wow that be pretty uncool if you ask me, not really sure what Nuse is trying to pull here but it wont get him nothing but trouble. I don't know much about J.B except he's ein kraut and very intelligent, oh and his demo user status with an avatar made him a god - Cause all dem little demo newbz be wanting an avatar!


Personally I feel the 'moderators' have a little too much control around these parts to begin with, but thats just my personal opinion and Ill try and leave it at that. It just seems that they often favor particular people and basically like to 'show off' their E-Tackle.

www.pandora.com - Its a customizable music station - input an artist name or song title and it will create a music station to your liking. Only down side is that it requires registration and only open to US residents, but if you google a zip code and slot that in it will work fine


www.shoutcast.com - Obviously! + Requires Winamp!

Quote from Jakg :

I think i can geuss who this is, and i think i can also geuss this is done through exploited positional packets.

O RLY ? :eye-poppi

Please explain your theory on 'exploited positional packets' and how one would firstly read and then implement them, I'm really quite fascinated with this oh and do share who you think this person is.

Quote from Jakg :

...is it me or have there been a shedload of Mercury members in this thread suddenly?

Sorry what? You post twice 4 pages into a discussion and you say all of Mercury are posting suddenly? Yeh.... Right on buddy, right on.


As for tops times this week thats a tough one to answer, I haven't even given the combo a run yet so I can't even hazard a guess. Ill just say 1.01.7X

I really got to get some sleep now, k bye.

Last edited by Rooble, Thu 19 Jul 2007, 02:31.

Lep, you've obviously taken this whole thread in the wrong light as I can see no one intentionally trying to offend you. And like you said everyone can have their opinions and you don't mind what they are, so practice what you preach and move on.

DieKoll, Your post was pretty bloody amusing but I have no idea why your dream occupation has any influence on a discussion concerning driver talent. I hope you don't feel offended that I go ahead and add that into my signature as a quote, cause I think its cool

Quote from Clownpaint :

That was my point, wasn't it?

Yeah but it come across as it being the deciding factor, which it probably isn't give that there a plenty of people with 40K+ online with a shed load of hotlaps offline to go with it.




evilgeek : Feel free to state your opinion but if its useless and insulting then why bother posting it to begin with?

Jack, Sorry but your theory doesn't really prove anything other than these guys hotlap offline more then most people. Look at Sracer and his stats the guy has probably driven in total including hotlaps *guess* 35K, I'm sure I could find a handful of other hotlappers with plenty more on/offline miles that will never be as fast as him.

As for the high profile league races well the guy had to be fast to get in there to begin with, so he had even less miles at the time.



evilgeek : Lovin the out of a cereal box cliché quote, but go away.

There's no doubt that after 100K you'll be fast, but you'll never be able to push a car like others who are faster still. Some people have the ability and some do not, I think I fall into the category of not having it but I can deal with that - just got to clock up miles and hope 'experience' carries my slow ass along.

A good indication of those 'experience' drivers are the guys who always select the same car to keep up, yeah you know what I'm talking about!

Or anyone who dislikes RWD :lovies3d:

I'm guessing no one has ever seen this before because I for one haven't, so I've posted it here for your viewing pleasure.

Hot Butter - Popcorn : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdWDJCKEh8k
Super Mario Bro : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0bKq3x74UE
Bohemian Rhapsody : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOyEw9bT8yQ

http://www.youtube.com/user/gunecologist - Thats the guys profile page, he has many many more.

Another one bites the dust!

Quote from der butz :

May I ask a question? WHAT ON EARTH is "german engineering"?

Vorsprung durch Technik









Zeh Germans kann make ein auto wiz Heinz Bake und Beans, und we like to party in cardigans und pullovers.
Danke.
Ja.
Mein bitchens.

So what alternative do I have?

A) Add license protection to keep demo users out and keep the moderators happy, and deal with the countless amounts of request PM/threads for the mod.

B) Release it into the public away from the official community and drive all the demo users elsewhere for help/support/requests. This just invites illegal activities from other users with cracking and such, and rids the reasonable amount of control the devs/moderators have on the community made software.

No need to reply back to this post, as this topic has run its course and I'm clear on the matter.

K Bye.

See the problem I see is that none of what you guys are trying to point out are stated in the rules located : http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=11762

Which leads me to believe you guys just say and do as you wish, I'm not here to cause trouble or to stir anything. But I don't agree on the 'you must do this' and 'you cannot do that, unless we agree to it' when it was never stated in the rules. You get meh?

The harder you grip, the more I'll wriggle.

That ain't no sexual innuendo you dirty minded people

Quote from Bob Smith :

In order to release a mod on these forums (not a little external tool like most of what gets posted in the unofficial add-ons), you must seek authorisation from the forum moderators. The devs don't have time to look over mods, so have left the responsibility with us. In the case of LFS tweak, we didn't like the idea that it gave potentially unlimited new vehicles to anyone, so it removed a large part of the incentive to demo users to purchase a license. We asked redrum to add license checking so it would only work for licensed users. He complied, added the feature, and after some testing, we were willing to have it posted here. BeSpoke was less necessary but the programs author decided to add it anyway.

Of course you can make whatever you want and release it away from these forums, but if it weren't allowable here you'd be going against the devs wishes. That may or may not particularly concern you, it's all down to respect. Kegetys could release his other works on his website and there's nothing we can do, but he has been asked not to and he has agreed. We wouldn't ban your account (forum or otherwise) just for that but would remove the content if posted here, and any references to it.

I think that covers everything.

See this is where I'm just a little bit confused, I had always assumed a moderators duty was to moderate forums, basically keep the place in check and keep it tidy. Now you're saying you decide whats goes and what doesn't on the grounds that the devs are just too busy. So what is your position in the community, because it seems your 'power' extends a little further then the forum.


My question above is nulled if the devs actually instructed you to remove any tweak that allows demo users to modify car settings, but I haven't read anything on the matter so you can see why I'm just a little bit puzzled. Finally you say it takes away part of the incentive for the demo users to buy S2 as it gave potentially unlimited new vehicles to anyone, but that isn't the case really as you still drive the XRT/XRG/XFG just with more or less power.

And shouldn't the incentive be 'oh i like this game - even the community is fun' and not 'you cant have XYZ until you've payed with your SOUL'. Everyone was always ranting on at how we mistreat demo users because they don't have a license, this is no different. In some respect I can see why Phlos did all the stuff he did do, although I don't agree with it fully.

K bye.

Quote from XCNuse :

Because you must have a license (either S1 or S2) to use LFSTweak.

I have one question, when did this become 'THE RULE' - Why can't I release my potential tool to the demo public?

Not that I have intentions to, but each time I read that statement it just spurs me on a little more to actually put time and effort into releasing a proper tool for demo users.

Since redrum released his old tweak and added some cheap license protection in, it seems everyone needs to now have an S2 license to use these types of tweaks/tools.

So is this a RULE? Must I abide by it? Will my license be nulled if I release a tweak to the demo user group?

Edit: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=11762 - I just answered it for myself, seems there is no rule just some type of community enforced thing.

Last edited by Rooble, Thu 12 Jul 2007, 18:59.

Yeah I have a chunk of it.

Ill PM you the link later.

Quote from XtremDriver :

If you talk about cones, I have a lot of replays with people hitting cones

It's called lag and it happens often when you do a fast lap as I done, because you drive very close to cones

HAHA

LAG?

I admire your thinking and how you went about developing this cheat, I'm still not 100% sure how you've done it but it does look intresting Ill have to play with some ideas later see If I can replicate it

Quote from GreekLover :

hey guys does it runs ok on vista because when i start the exe (tweak) it sais "component "comctl32.ocx" or one of tis dependencies not correctly registered: a file missing or innvalid

Do u have any ideas?

Thanks
mrdrifter

Read the first post.

Whats with the TM's and © and such?

Quote from wsinda :

Except that statistics is a tricky subject, and some people really suck with mathematics.

(EDIT: sorry, make that most people.)

Last week in the UK, a terrorist plot was foiled. The planners were all medics. Now, will you be afraid next time you visit a doctor? Not even one bit? Why not?

I don't think occupation really comes into it as it really doesn't really mean anything, but what doesn't surprise me is this.

Quote :

Suspect Don Stewart Whyte converted to Islam only six months ago.

"He's not a radical, when you see him, he was just, he did look up Islam a lot like recently, but he only looked it up in like the way that affected his life," says his friend says Jan-Sher Bhatti.

Seems like Islam defiantly changed his life, right?

Get out more.

SamH: What you said is wrong in so many ways that theres no point even going into it, we both know how it would end. Also your style or 'tone' is so patronizing its pointless even trying to talk with you, and with your minions jumping in giving you support it just looks like another playground war.

kurent: There is truth to that but without actually explaining it properly you'll just be seen as yet another skin head/nazi/white supremacist, so you better leave it out or they'll get ya!

aoun: Just ignore the tit, he'll probably give up after 10 minutes once he's realized he wont get a reaction out of you.