Quote from diablo21 :

Yeah, he went on the grass, but without the stop & go penalty he would have been in the top 4. For sure. And tell me, who's the 'best' for you?

It's really hard to say... I mean there's loads of drivers out there who have won 7 world championships. I'm sure Alonso will probably win 7-8, right?

That's only my opinion though, I know you didn't ask but I felt it necessary to respond anyway.

Quote from LazLoW :

I normally give the noob teams a chance but my god.... MSPAINT!

I mean even when I was in demo PhotoShop was cool

You 'run/own/lead/dictate' a noob team, so yeah. Ciao

More tea, Vicar?

Vote to lock.

Sorry Id love to join but I'm currently in a noob team that wont let me leave because they will beat me up.

My mummy said no too.

The majority of people that are licensed on LFS don't even use the hotlap feature, the people that do would probably be extremely upset to see it taken away. I've never spent more then 45minutes on a WR attempt but I know some people spend ages trying to beat times. Most people semi-hotlap online and then try and make it offical offline, so what we have now is fine by me.

I think too many people are starting to see the suggestion in the wrong light, my idea was simply to help LFS with content not to modify the game. I don't want mods, all I would like to see is talented artists/modellers/sound engineers/track creators to be able to submit something they have created to the development team and then handled accordingly.

Perhaps run a public forum vote on the suggested content and let the public vote on it, if people agree and like the content the developers slap it in a test patch and everyone has a go. If people dislike the content then it gets removed before the next official patch and nothing changes. If changes need to be carried out before a proper release of the content then Eric or the creator can fix it up so its of a good standard. This keeps everything legitimate and legal and everyone is happy, no shoddy 3rd party work and nothing gets put into the game that isn't approved by the development team. Fin!

Real tracks would be nice but as mentioned many many times before you need rights to use the track and name, but having made up content from people should be taken into consideration and should be perfectly legit.

My advice would be to join a server that is known for clean racing and good administration, currently I've been racing on the F1RST racing server which runs the ESCC combo. You'll find clean racing here and some really fast guys that help out and give advice.

And as GabbO pointed out, try to keep away from the really popular servers, as much as you might think its fun to drive with 25+ people on a public server it will always end in disaster. No public server will ever be as clean and well organized as any half decent league event, so if you're after big fields and clean racing join a league. If however you're just after some clean fun racing then I suggest you try smaller servers, team servers are usually the best as the members are more often then not there and always make for a good racing environment.

Go beg on the street...










Got 20p mate?

Got any spare change bruv?

Mate im depeserate, got any spare change please mate, go on.

These 'please buy me a licence' threads have started popping up more and more lately, can I suggest to people who wish to give out S2 vouchers please not to post on the forum on the matter. If you feel generous and wish to hand out your money then please do so in private, as it fundamentally it is a private matter


iluuv2sk8: It can't be difficult to get $50 together, I mean you could probably cut down on some stuff and not buy things... or something?

Quote from Gener_AL (UK) :

and how will this work with lfworld ?

think about servers running that many combos .

the list goes on...

You're saying we shouldn't have more content because LFSW and the master server might not be able to populate so many results??!

Either way there are far more plus points to this idea then negative, I bet if user submitted content came out the 'nay' sayers would soon change their tune. Everyone wants more content so who cares if its from Eric or some other equally talented forum goer? You're still going to drive on/in it who ever made it, and you're still going to enjoy it so where's the problem?

Also there really doesn't need to be a committee to decide this so Scawen can continue to code his stuff, let Eric work with the people who create the content to improve or change bits. It will make his life easier and in the process we get new tracks/cars/etc.

Quote from Dandy Dust :

One argument also is:

the 8 vote ban leaves the majority principles of democracy:

THAT WAS THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT:

THE MAJORITY made the ban,

not a rather small MINORITY OF VOTERS,

like 8 out of 30 or so...

If You have a server with 30 people driving,

how must they know whom to ban and who not...


Its interesting how some people dont want to discuss

this very intersting topic, a major question about the

atmosphere in the game, which has become very

uncomunicational with "institutions" like wreckers

barricade, witch in my opinion only servers the

omnipotence-fantasies of those who invented it.

THOSE PEOPLE ESTABLISH THEIR PRIVATE LAW ON

INTERNATIONALLY PUBLIC GAME SERVES!!

THEY BAN WHOEVER THEY WANT FOR WHATEVER

REASON for lifetime - AND "SELL" their opinions to

other game-server-owners!

This is very weired - more weired than the subversiv

action of players "driving the wrong way" for whatever

reason.

If WE, the LFS-Community don´t keep up with respect

and dolerance for other ways of life, we will end up like

america.

With as everyday reality, for "HOMELAND-security"

instead of "who is my oposit", with the "axis of evil"

instead of a pluralism of cultures and people, as well

as religions.

Lets NOT have Eight Eggs Votes on, who ever does not

please the G8,

Dandy

Bold post brother, bold post!

Id have to say I agree with him regarding Wrecker Barricade servers but I wont go into detail on the subject because it will get me blacklisted (thats the beauty of free speech, its a myth )

Back on topic:
I think the 8 people system works fine as it is now, I've not encountered a problem with it yet and the idea of tribes of people going round to ban people is silly.

I think user submitted content is an excellent idea and is something LFS should look to consider for S2. All you really need to do is lay down a set of rules and test the content thoroughly, if its up to scratch then great release it in another mini patch, if not then sorry better luck next time.

This would eliminate issues with mismatches of content or people splitting off into mod pockets and sub communities, and if the only other issue is to hurt peoples feelings well... Just make it perfectly clear that all content must be of the highest standard and that some will not make it. Perhaps do some sort of licensing system for developers, so that people with real potential to help LFS can submit content and leave all the fly by night dreamers to rFactor

Id hate to see LFS turn into another rFactor mismatch half baked semi finished not even worthy of my bandwidth 'sim', But if done correctly and ultimately Scavier had the last say on it, I think it would be A big step for LFS.

Quote from kamkorPL :

It was made as a joke(music, pink glow etc.). But it's point was to also show what Ian words mean when he is driving.

Ok if it was a joke, why does PSDF on the first page want Ian to apologize for what he has said? The way it looks to me is you're trying to humiliate him (and fail because he doesn't care) and then turn it round into a 'its only a joke' thread.

Quote from psdf :

Just because you've maybe had problems with someone drifting on your racing server, doesn't give you the right to bash at the whole sport like a rhino in heat

Yeah... because having an opinion that differs from yours is just wrong! Bad Ian!

illepall

Movie was fun, but was it really a joke or did they really try and offend, hmm I'm not sure but Oh well.

Point remains : Drifting is turd, racing is the real deal


I'm sure Ian is traumatized and needs weeks of recovery

LX8 would be a nice addition to LFS right about now, just to tie us over till the next big big patch!

Speaking of stuff we dont have

Bus, anyone?

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I've started relying on the speedometer more frequently now then before, especially when tackling WR's. People don't seem to think its needed to glance at your speed, but I assure you it is. When you're fighting for tenths of a second 1MPH or 2KMH really does make a difference so finding the optimal line and getting that 1MPH more out of the car is vital. If you don't look you'll never know, so you will never really progress faster.

Some of you people are proper harsh bastards...

And for 'theirishnoob'

Stop doing what any child does and try and reword what everyone else has written, to just look as if you're really intelligent and know what's cooking.

You're only adding insult to the whole thing and its taking the piss, everyone's moaning on these boards how its going down the drain but feel all chummy when you gun down someone in some sort of geek posse.


Edit: Danowat your comment has only confirmed what I thought to begin with so thanks, I mean what good is life if we're not being crapped on, right?

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Quote from bbman :

CO2 is neither a polluting nor a waste product! Get that out of your heads! Besides: man-made CO2 is a tiny percentage of the whole CO2-production, and it's even going down because of all the paranoia... Who is the biggest CO2-producer, you may ask? Mother nature herself with all her plants and wildlife! Should we go round and shoot every animal on the planet, cut every plant? Maybe cool the oceans so they can absorb more CO2, so we don't need to worry anymore?

Yes, we may or may not accellerate global warming, but really, we neither contribute enough nor have we any control over it... Mankind is unable to see or grasp the higher order, so all he does is panic and some people make good money of it...

You're partly right but I'm not sure where you got most of those ideas from...

Fact is that the ocean gives off more C02 a year then humans could do in a year, so saying we're the problem is just ludicrous. This whole global warming crap is making people very very rich, and secondly who the hell cares you cant stop it and its right on time to happen. I think we're overdue a change but I could be wrong really, still no single person can outright motor sport because no single person has the power to do so.

So yes try to be efficient and help the planet where you can but for the love of god don't buy into all this non-sense. Here's a small documentary explaining the whole thing, I suggest you doomed people go view it :
http://www.my3id.com/video/con ... warming-swindle-2007.html

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I see.

I never thought you'd be the first person on my ignore list.

Oh you big girl, you...

How dare I mock the noble Kev with my puerile words, I must now spend the rest of eternity at the bottom of his soul.

But yeah cool, k bye.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

There seem to be a lot of people here these days who are more familiar with my own posting history than I am.

Yeah because everyone loves you and you are God.

Not like a really important God, but one of those cheesy YouTube ZZZ list celebrity type God.... Like yeah!.. ?

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I'm having problems finding the White jokes.

You must have some sort of guilty concious Kev, each time such a topic appears you feel the need to post that you're so anti-racism and love the world.

Quote from Mako. :

The REAL reason the wankel rotary has been banned from F1, is becasue it just was TOO ****ing fast... and people didn't like it.:thumbsdow

Oh really?

Probably more like they banned turbo's and I guess wankels don't kick enough power on their own, right? Or can a 2.4 wankel get the same power Ferrari can get out of their V8 which revs 19K ?




Why not rename the thread 'Can we get an RX7 FuddyDuddy987733' - What other car is there that has a rotary engine that is fast/famous?

And lastly what difference will it make if it reads 4POT or rotary/wankel in the garage, if you want it to sound like a rotary just mess with the sounds.

Anyone who spams anything along the lines of 'BLUE FLAG PULL OVER' in a race - Is a door knob, and not even a brightly coloured one at that. If you're faster you're going to overtake the person in front no matter what, if you're too incompetent or lack the nuts to do so carefully and politely then don't phucking bother.

Whenever I pass a slower car and its gone without a problem ill more often then not give the 'Good pass' message and honk the horn, just to show my appreciation for them being aware of me. I still encounter people who are not aware a car is beside them, and just turn into you as you go to overtake. Its like.. Do they think you disappear off the track once you're out of their mirror or what?

Last time I checked depression is a state of mind were you're constantly beating yourself down, i.e 'I cant do this' 'This wont work' 'I have no existance' and so forth.

Definition of depression :
a mental state characterized by a pessimistic sense of inadequacy and a despondent lack of activity

Because the nature of this illness is such that it just goes in circles, the less you do the worse it gets. To help break the cycle you need to do stuff you don't normally do, like jump around sing or dance or something just way out of the ordinary. Although it doesn't sound like much it will help more then you probably think, most people under depression have some sort of routine/comfort zone. Some people like to retreat to the homes/rooms and just shut away from the world and others like to eat or drink, this is where the problem escalates and gets worse. You need to break that cycle doing what you usually do to numb yourself, so instead of doing whatever it is you do. Jump around, go outside and find weird stuff or anything just aslong as you break the cycle.

This place is a good forum http://www.uncommonforum.com/ for all things mental health and such, a friend of mine suffered from panic attacks and anxiety and said the people there were very helpful for her recovery.

I think you just need to remember that this isn't a piss take illness, and it truly is an illness, although admittedly I used to think it was lies Just keep your chin up mate and don't self harm, there are zillions of brilliant things in life mate! I bet you don't own an M3 yet? Probably about time you do something bout it eh?

Good luck and get well soon mate, also don't be afraid about seeing your GP because he/she will understand so don't sweat it. Like they say on TV

'Its good to talk!'






P.S : This is just advice I'm no Doctor and I haven't suffered from depression but my dads loves documentaries and I used to have to wait to watch The Simpsons.

HAHA I placed 10th and I only raced once!