I'm getting mixed results ...
My code
My results
I didn't jump start, but from green light, to crossing finish line at start is over half second difference between what's recorded between sector split and racetime. And both InSim times are over 10secs on from LFS recorded time.
Nothing displayed for ms, secs, or minutes.
My code
<?php
Event OnCrossingChecker($userName,$Flags,$Time,$Object,$UserSpeed,$CircleIndex) # Player event
$dateracestarted = GetLapperVar("dateracestarted"); #Get date and time when the race has been started.
privmsg("Race Start: ".$dateracestarted);
privmsg("Driver: ".getplayervar($userName,"NickName"));
privmsg($Object." sector split: ".$Time);
$racetime = GetLapperVar("racetime"); # Elapsed racetime (in Milliseconds) after the race has been started
privmsg("Racetime: ".(NumToMSH($racetime)));
$elapsedms = GetLapperVar("elapsedms"); # Elapsed racetime (in Milliseconds) after the race has been started
privmsg("Elapsed Milliseconds: ".(NumToMSH($elapsedms)));
$elapsedsecs = GetLapperVar("elapsedsecs"); # Elapsed racetime (in Seconds) after the race has been started
privmsg("Elapsed Seconds: ".(NumToMSH($elapsedsecs)));
$elapsedmins = GetLapperVar("elapsedmins"); #Elapsed racetime (in Minutes) after the race has been started
privmsg("Elapsed Minutes: ".(NumToMSH($elapsedmins)));
EndEvent
?>
I didn't jump start, but from green light, to crossing finish line at start is over half second difference between what's recorded between sector split and racetime. And both InSim times are over 10secs on from LFS recorded time.
Nothing displayed for ms, secs, or minutes.
Now that I've got it working, and am playing with InSim checkpoints ...
Would it be better rather than having to play about with changing time outputs from numbers, lapper gave you the proper, real time, without having to use NumToMSH?
Using the following event
gives me a number such as 70210, which I then have to add code, in proper format, to change into a proper time (ie 1m 10.21s).
Not so bad for people who have some experience of lapper, but its complicated when you don't really know it, (or in my case, forget how to use it) and expect things to work without having to delve into code and change it.
Also.
Would be worth adding comment to the !myconfig line in the lfslapper.lpr file - there's nothing to say what it does, and it seems to be hard wired into lapper, as you can search for the function, and find nothing. Maybe comment such as "#function to change language, unit of speed, etc"?
Would it be better rather than having to play about with changing time outputs from numbers, lapper gave you the proper, real time, without having to use NumToMSH?
Using the following event
<?php
Event OnCrossingChecker($userName,$Flags,$Time,$Object,$UserSpeed,$CircleIndex) # Player event
privmsg(getplayervar($userName,"NickName"));
privmsg("Action: ".$Flags);
privmsg("Time: ".$Time);
privmsg("Object: ".$Object);
privmsg("CircleIndex: ".$CircleIndex);
privmsg("Speed: ".$UserSpeed." ".getplayervar($userName,"UnitSpeed"));
EndEvent
?>
gives me a number such as 70210, which I then have to add code, in proper format, to change into a proper time (ie 1m 10.21s).
Not so bad for people who have some experience of lapper, but its complicated when you don't really know it, (or in my case, forget how to use it) and expect things to work without having to delve into code and change it.
Also.
Would be worth adding comment to the !myconfig line in the lfslapper.lpr file - there's nothing to say what it does, and it seems to be hard wired into lapper, as you can search for the function, and find nothing. Maybe comment such as "#function to change language, unit of speed, etc"?
Yes! I still can't understand why it can't just release to LFS... So what if it's not "driveable"... There is more interesting things to do than stupid casual racing...
EDIT: What I mean about release, after tire physics, of course!
EDIT: What I mean about release, after tire physics, of course!
Change master Power min.350Watt ..
Destroy graphic setup . Antilasing, texture, negative "pixel" And other.. pres in game "F" And check IT FPS. i play online only with F mode .. i have 250 FPS with utlraHD my tv 120"
Update drivers SOUND ... Yes Sound drive ... Integrine on MotherBoard wit chipset maeby..
Turn off vertikal synchro display ... No use resolution with p or i .. only clean resolution with 60 Hz ..
Destroy graphic setup . Antilasing, texture, negative "pixel" And other.. pres in game "F" And check IT FPS. i play online only with F mode .. i have 250 FPS with utlraHD my tv 120"
Update drivers SOUND ... Yes Sound drive ... Integrine on MotherBoard wit chipset maeby..
Turn off vertikal synchro display ... No use resolution with p or i .. only clean resolution with 60 Hz ..
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Managed to find copy of track layout ...
indeed it is great 
side note : two snapshots : South City and Fern Bay ... Next one on Kyoto ?
side note : two snapshots : South City and Fern Bay ... Next one on Kyoto ?
As stated many times in this message chain it is more of a problem in demo servers. Also like Rony said, server owners are responsible how they are managed.
One way to help on this matter would be to assign a password for the server. The password could be shared in server owners forum after registering to it or on dedicated discord channel or some other meaningful way which is not too easy but not too difficult either.
This method would suit of course the best for server hosts, who have multiple servers and could keep one server without password, where racers could find the information how to get password for other servers.
Or if it would be possible to have password assigned to server and same time one joining the server can see the welcome text including information how to get access to it but cannot enter the server, then it would be possible to do for a single server hosts also.
I would do this kind of arrangement if we would still have servers running, maybe some day ...
One way to help on this matter would be to assign a password for the server. The password could be shared in server owners forum after registering to it or on dedicated discord channel or some other meaningful way which is not too easy but not too difficult either.
This method would suit of course the best for server hosts, who have multiple servers and could keep one server without password, where racers could find the information how to get password for other servers.
Or if it would be possible to have password assigned to server and same time one joining the server can see the welcome text including information how to get access to it but cannot enter the server, then it would be possible to do for a single server hosts also.
I would do this kind of arrangement if we would still have servers running, maybe some day ...
I thought a lot about this. The simplest and most effective solution. I thought about the TC cruise and their effectual method. If you think a person is in violation, you can report it. With a certain number of reports, they stop access to the server for a certain amount of time. For example, if 20 people report the same spammer within a few days ... it becomes clear that the person goes online to make trouble.
Old players can see a clear difference between novice and spammer. It can also be forbidden for a player with a new profile to report.
It's just an idea, do not judge me for my thinking friends.
Old players can see a clear difference between novice and spammer. It can also be forbidden for a player with a new profile to report.
It's just an idea, do not judge me for my thinking friends.
I can confirm that both supersampling and AA work for me (I use a Rift), thanks. I must admit, the difference between 4x and 8x MSAA is very very subtle (it's great to have the ability to change the settings on track btw, and dynamically see the results!), only really seen on distant straight lines, like armco edges (my test case is Blackwood, which shows quite bad shimmering at the start line, as well as down the first long straight).
SS makes a big difference to image quality as expected. One small request, could you allow values over 200 perhaps? I run 250 (the maximum) in Richard Burns Rally, without an issue (I'm lucky enough to have a 2080Ti), and LFS is easily locked at 90fps, even with 200% SS and 8x MSAA. I'd like a maximum of 300% ... might not work very well, but easy not to use it in that case! (I appreciate it is very much diminishing returns here - but if I have the headroom, I might as well spend it on something.)
One other thought - are your shadows done in the MSAA pass? They seem to be the main culprits of the remaining distant shimmer issues. I know from experience though that this can be a very difficult problem to solve, depending on how your renderer is structured.
SS makes a big difference to image quality as expected. One small request, could you allow values over 200 perhaps? I run 250 (the maximum) in Richard Burns Rally, without an issue (I'm lucky enough to have a 2080Ti), and LFS is easily locked at 90fps, even with 200% SS and 8x MSAA. I'd like a maximum of 300% ... might not work very well, but easy not to use it in that case! (I appreciate it is very much diminishing returns here - but if I have the headroom, I might as well spend it on something.)
One other thought - are your shadows done in the MSAA pass? They seem to be the main culprits of the remaining distant shimmer issues. I know from experience though that this can be a very difficult problem to solve, depending on how your renderer is structured.
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I am testing this : it is correctly applying custom and driver setting (view parameter), but in the option the view remain selected (visually) on the previously selected option, even if you are seeing your view defined in the script ...
edit : After thinking to it, it is surely intentional
Reply to - lucaf. Just imagine you have a restaurant. You have many regular customers and want to keep them. What happens when people come and interfere with your work, break chairs and annoy guests? Are we waiting for them to get tired?
Reply to - bishtop. I know this works well for most servers. The question is very complex. Why should I ask these 5-6 server owners in which I play for bans of anyone who destroys a race ...
I'm 100% sure that if you make a rating system these people will be thinking about destroying races and events again. They will know they can stay without LFS access for 1 week, for example.
Here you are right. What to do with new players? It's a very complicated question, but I'm sure there's some solution.
In my view, creating a nice game environment is just as important to the future of this good game as the graphics improvements we are expecting soon.
Reply to - bishtop. I know this works well for most servers. The question is very complex. Why should I ask these 5-6 server owners in which I play for bans of anyone who destroys a race ...
I'm 100% sure that if you make a rating system these people will be thinking about destroying races and events again. They will know they can stay without LFS access for 1 week, for example.
Here you are right. What to do with new players? It's a very complicated question, but I'm sure there's some solution.
In my view, creating a nice game environment is just as important to the future of this good game as the graphics improvements we are expecting soon.
open a discord /website /lfs.net envent post .. to share the password to access a private racing server ...
We need a solution
Hello, I allow myself to open a new topic, although I know it's been commented before. These days I play mostly in Demo but the situation on licensed servers is similar. I know LFS is not responsible for what's going on in the public servers and that's why I open the thread.
I exclude the new players because they are still learning ... There is another group of people who deliberately enter the simulator to ruin anyway the few nice races we do. It is very difficult to ban them from the server but the next day they are here again, whether in another server or discipline. I'm not going to put replays, but I'll give the example of these two players, which I think we all know.
The first one is - username-juusiii, which only plays to ruin our races, most often hitting the T1.
The second is nickname pWn13, which uses speed and crash mods to beat, hitting everyone around it.
I can give more examples but the post would become infinite.
It does not matter that this is about Demo in this case, it is even worse, because Demo is a kind of presentation of this good simulator. In my opinion, it is not the decision and the everyday ban that we do difficult.
LFS MUST have a built-in rating system for each player and when he reaches the minimum, he may not be able to play on public servers for a given time. (or other limitation)
This rating system could be implemented in 2 ways.
The first and easiest way is to make a voting system on the site. Where any player could vote at the end of the day or race. This will make it very clear who is here to play honestly and who to ruin the games
The second way is the hard one. Write a code in the game itself. This code should track for direct violations such as breaking into the T1 or exiting the runway outline. Depending on the outcome, the rating will increase or decrease.
There are many ways and I think that this problem needs to be solved. Many people simply stop playing LFS because of this problem. Even me today just unplugged my wheel and I took it back into the box, but I said why? Why should I give up because of a group of people who do not know what LFS is?
Please solve the problem. I apologize for the bad English and the rough tone. I'm just very angry at the moment.
Greetings.
I exclude the new players because they are still learning ... There is another group of people who deliberately enter the simulator to ruin anyway the few nice races we do. It is very difficult to ban them from the server but the next day they are here again, whether in another server or discipline. I'm not going to put replays, but I'll give the example of these two players, which I think we all know.
The first one is - username-juusiii, which only plays to ruin our races, most often hitting the T1.
The second is nickname pWn13, which uses speed and crash mods to beat, hitting everyone around it.
I can give more examples but the post would become infinite.
It does not matter that this is about Demo in this case, it is even worse, because Demo is a kind of presentation of this good simulator. In my opinion, it is not the decision and the everyday ban that we do difficult.
LFS MUST have a built-in rating system for each player and when he reaches the minimum, he may not be able to play on public servers for a given time. (or other limitation)
This rating system could be implemented in 2 ways.
The first and easiest way is to make a voting system on the site. Where any player could vote at the end of the day or race. This will make it very clear who is here to play honestly and who to ruin the games
The second way is the hard one. Write a code in the game itself. This code should track for direct violations such as breaking into the T1 or exiting the runway outline. Depending on the outcome, the rating will increase or decrease.
There are many ways and I think that this problem needs to be solved. Many people simply stop playing LFS because of this problem. Even me today just unplugged my wheel and I took it back into the box, but I said why? Why should I give up because of a group of people who do not know what LFS is?
Please solve the problem. I apologize for the bad English and the rough tone. I'm just very angry at the moment.
Greetings.
maybe there is Linux aswell ...
DX11 means you are no more compatible with WinXp for example ... I suppose Scawen to not be so interested 
There are some commands (view, press,...) that won't work with <car>.lfs scripts because those scripts are being executed too soon after the car is spawned (or at the same time). I wanted to write a bug report about this years ago but completely forgot. Now you reminded me 
There would have to be some sleep function in the script system, which would be really amazing (hi Scawen) or the execution of those car scripts would have to be delayed a little.
So I'm afraid you can't get this to work now. You could however execute those scripts manually by typing "//fz5" (or you could just copy paste the fz5.lfs file and name it for example custom_view, then F08.lfs to default_view and then just execute it by //default_view and //custom_view). You can bind that to a key or a key combo (Ctrl+F1, etc).
EDIT: Well, never mind, you can just bind the /view command. I was thinking too much
There would have to be some sleep function in the script system, which would be really amazing (hi Scawen) or the execution of those car scripts would have to be delayed a little.
So I'm afraid you can't get this to work now. You could however execute those scripts manually by typing "//fz5" (or you could just copy paste the fz5.lfs file and name it for example custom_view, then F08.lfs to default_view and then just execute it by //default_view and //custom_view). You can bind that to a key or a key combo (Ctrl+F1, etc).
EDIT: Well, never mind, you can just bind the /view command. I was thinking too much
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if I remember correct the custom view for formulas was not showing the LEDs and data on the wheel ... only driver's one is doing it
Help with setting type of view via scripts
Hello guys,
I am facing a small resistance regarding a workaround to a request I made :
my goal is to set according to the type of car selected the view to be either "driver" (formulas, mrt) or "custom" (hood for the remaining cars).
I am entering the following complex scripts
in the *.lfs files :
***
***
***
I have tried also with /view but it is not working.
FFB strength is well taken into account ...
extract from the Commands.txt :
Any ideas why it is not working ?
edit : issue corrected with 0.6U2
I am facing a small resistance regarding a workaround to a request I made :
my goal is to set according to the type of car selected the view to be either "driver" (formulas, mrt) or "custom" (hood for the remaining cars).
I am entering the following complex scripts
in the *.lfs files :***
// This script is run when you select the FZ5
run road
ff 18
view custom***
// This script is run when you select the FO8
run paddle
view driver
ff 21***
I have tried also with /view but it is not working.
FFB strength is well taken into account ...
extract from the Commands.txt :
/view [fol/heli/cam/driver/custom] - select viewAny ideas why it is not working ?
edit : issue corrected with 0.6U2
Last edited by Flotch, .
Here is new version compatible with patch U.
Note that dashboard wont work with previous patches. My intention was to keep all current gauges compatible. I did most of work, still didn't test gauge divisions (eg speedod.png) and update info text about new resolutions.
All textures can be now two times larger, eg background.png can be 512x512 (old 256x256 still work).
While dashboard editor is open gauges will also be drawn in top left corner of screen. Idea that still sits on my mind for couple of years is to make drag n drop for indicators, gauges, ... but I got many other interesting hobbies now like taking extremely long road trips.
edit: please test this version and report any problems.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j73xc3d7p1cpf2e/LFSLazy.exe?dl=0
Note that dashboard wont work with previous patches. My intention was to keep all current gauges compatible. I did most of work, still didn't test gauge divisions (eg speedod.png) and update info text about new resolutions.
All textures can be now two times larger, eg background.png can be 512x512 (old 256x256 still work).
While dashboard editor is open gauges will also be drawn in top left corner of screen. Idea that still sits on my mind for couple of years is to make drag n drop for indicators, gauges, ... but I got many other interesting hobbies now like taking extremely long road trips.
edit: please test this version and report any problems.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j73xc3d7p1cpf2e/LFSLazy.exe?dl=0
Ok, so now I am a bit more interested on those famous scripts, and the bible is located under \docs\Commands.txt.
ff is indeed setting the strength and is working like a charm.
I am then seeing "/view [fol/heli/cam/driver/custom] - select view"
==> it is not working for me (while the command line is working
). I will try to get some helps in the correct subforum ...
edit : corrected by 0.6U2
ff is indeed setting the strength and is working like a charm.
I am then seeing "/view [fol/heli/cam/driver/custom] - select view"
==> it is not working for me (while the command line is working
). I will try to get some helps in the correct subforum ...edit : corrected by 0.6U2
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Yes, the AI may not have changed ... .. but if you take
a mixing field of 5Level and 4Level AI's you can sometimes have a lot more interesting races. The whole thing is also a bit of luck .... because sometimes there is a worse "first corner war" than on the Internet
In any case, the AI Train is no longer recognizable after 1-2 laps. Great!
Sometimes it was really difficult to overtake them accident-free because they now started to overtake themselves and block the way. Rarely had such fun with the LFS AI!
A little fine update for me because I often use the AI.
(tested with XRT on Rockingham with various layouts.)
Thank you!
I was sure ... Eric is 'Westyling' the remaining things
No problem with T6, runs fine.
My root particion (where I have the OS kernel, desktop environment and all SW installed) has currently 19GB (I have lot of SW, various compilers, development libraries, all major versions of gcc, etc..). It's of course fully updated to latest versions of everything.
But that's without the Android development stuff, that's in my /home, and that alone takes about 30-40+GB... because why f*cking not, dear Google... argh. It's driving me insane, how people carelessly fill gigabytes of storage space, most often in completely ridiculous and easily avoidable way.
So, anyway, if you are not developer, full desktop linux installation with KDE5 and being up-to-date would eat probably about 8-12GB at most.
JFYI ...
But that's without the Android development stuff, that's in my /home, and that alone takes about 30-40+GB... because why f*cking not, dear Google... argh. It's driving me insane, how people carelessly fill gigabytes of storage space, most often in completely ridiculous and easily avoidable way.
So, anyway, if you are not developer, full desktop linux installation with KDE5 and being up-to-date would eat probably about 8-12GB at most.
JFYI ...
carl slow
hi everyone a question?
because in multiplayer mode, I with my car I can not reach any of the participant but the cars are very fast, while I can see that my slow! because in any race go to the servers the cars of others are fast while mine are slower. they have special changes ... I do not understand why
thanks for the greetings answers
because in multiplayer mode, I with my car I can not reach any of the participant but the cars are very fast, while I can see that my slow! because in any race go to the servers the cars of others are fast while mine are slower. they have special changes ... I do not understand why
thanks for the greetings answers
You are right, you just need to restart once ... I would have prefer to get it the first shoot, but it workarounds the thing a bit
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