Quote from Motordirex :

If you wanted to step out of this conversation you would have.

I'll reword my comments so that you understand. You like hotdogs, I hate hotdogs...does that mean I dont know anything about them? Hotdogs, like oval racing, Ive tried and didnt enjoy either.

Tristans comments were justified regarding the comments about my racing stats. My opinion on ovals has nothing to do with my knowledge of LFS. If Im missing something besides the racing, then tell me and I'll tell you to get out of the house more.

Well, my bad, i should have gone more into detail. I was actually talking about every single oval discussion in this forum and some of the people that took part on and this most probably includes you as well since i have no proof that you have got enough knowledge to create a according statement about the oval in LFS which was the actual topic, nothing else. Dont get me wrong, i agree with some of the points you've made. But in general there are lots of similarities but also lots of differences. Depending on each combo - means tracks (ovals for instance) & vehicles just to specify it. Comparisons between each of them can be either tricky, usefull (-less) and comparisons with real life experiences and simulations as well.
Besides, your hotdog example is nonsense since this excludes the complexity of the actually topic completely. Trying and doing or in other words, getting into something with passion is something different and this is where the amount of knowledge is falling apart and actually makes the difference. With all due respect, i dont care about your opinion regarding the oval in LFS anymore. Its a matter of taste so enjoy yourself and let others too.

Now if i missed something, please help me out.

Last edited by 510N3D, Sat, 28 Apr 2007 00:33.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Unfortunately some people do think that online mileage shows how much they know about LFS. The high mileage just means they play so much that it's unlikely they really know all that much about LFS. Just ignore them. If we ignore people like that enough, they'll go away...

I think you missed the point completely in harry's comment which was obviously a question. I believe that the point was actually that if you get experiences especially online you'll get the corresponding knowledge in a matter of fact. But still this is just an indicator and nothing to absolutely rely on. Unfortunately some people think that they can step into a conversation without the required knowledge. Now take a guess at which level of quality the conversation drops now? Anyway, please also have a look at another comment in this thread and with these few words ill step out of this conversation.

Cheers

Last edited by 510N3D, Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:34.

AFAIK, november is the eleventh (11) month, we had several races and he always finished behind me. Besides, i dont get your point ajp71, what exactly is your problem? Wait, if its personal as your hole reply sounds like, i dont want to know it at all.

Quote from ajp71 :

Why do all oval racers seem totally insecure having to be the best racer ever?

lol...no comment

Quote from JakG :

I would like to point out that i'm 3 secs off pace consistently, which seems odd as i usually set 57.3-57.5's

Although do you have a bloody photographic memory?!

/me just expected your question about some more details about it

Over & out.

Last edited by 510N3D, Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:56.

Quote from Jakg :

im using my experience from last time i went on your server (about a month ago?)

So i think i DO have a clue what i'm taking about, unless you've changed it...funny i don't seem to remember that, care to share any more information?

Still, you dont have a clue, since W17 it needs some work around again but before it had individual settings just to fit our needs. Besides, we had a reminder which was needed yes, but it was every minute not second.

Have a look at the 12 November 2006.

Quote from Fischfix :

just to defend myself: i was the fastest on rb4 class in qualifying and during the first part of the race (even faster then some of the xrt). however you don't have a damn chance for winning this thing in an rb4. thats why the whole thing had 3 winners. for each car one winner. and it was a fun event so i took the rb4 as i like it.

i made some mistakes when fighting with samH for the rb4 lead. my race ended when i got cought in a crash of some drivers in front standing on track after t3. which brought me a lap down because i had to toss my car around the track. and did not manage to get out of pits in front of the pacecar which made me 2 laps down. however it was fun and i think you probably had a lot more problems if we all would have been allowed to use the same car. remember there was this discussion at the start if all drivers must drive the xrt.

that were excuses i know. but every result has its reasons.

Yeah a fun event, even more a reason for Jakg to not be too proud about his famous win over FM And yeah Fischfix, youre a damn good driver and theres no need to defend yourself ok, but tbh, you need more practice or spend more time on the track (not sure about TBO class, GTR probably not but BF1 fo shizzle, do we agree on that?) I always feel a bit unsecure in your presence but i always enjoyed racing you mate

Last edited by 510N3D, Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:27.

Quote from Jakg :

what? most people know about the lapper from either Redline servers of the FM Servers, both seem to have every SINGLE feature enabled and every 2 seconds you get a message

it seems, but its not the case. Apparently, you dont have a clue about what you talking about.

Quote from Jakg :

im with AJP, i find it REALLY hard to follow who said what etc when you don't use proper quotes

i ment his double post which he could have also put into his first one. Funny thing is, he made a advice to red_wing but did something far more annoying: spam.

Quote from Jakg :

i've been in one, it was STCC Drivers V FM Guys, Oval, TBO
Unsurprisingly (used to do a LOT of ovaling but got bored of a circle) i won, with STCC drivers taking the top ones, and FM drivers suprisingly not making many notable finishes

All drivers from FM that took part, which where Torben, Laudi & Fischfix are skilled thats for sure, but i would not say that they are crazy oval nutters like Failure and myself. Just in case there is a next time, you will not win, at least not if me or Failure are on the track. Besides, i remember racing against you on a STCC server and you didn't do very well there. You got beaten by a oval nutter on a curcuit track isn't that strange?

Last edited by 510N3D, Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:11.

Quote from shotglass :

difference is you dont have to take your foot off or bother with anything else that makes cornering challenging

Quote from ajp71 :

Most importantly the public servers are shockingly badly managed with all kind of ridiculous rules, far too many bans and an overdose of LFS Lapper

Knowledge based on hearsay is useless. :shhh:

Quote from ajp71 :

@Redwing - Stop writing in big red writing, it doesn't make you look clever and learn to quote properly.



Type [-quote=name-]quote[-/quote-] (without the hyphens)

something for the Sadness ratings eh

on-topic, i do not step into this conversation because i made my point elsewhere and came to the conclusion that there is no conclusion. Matter of taste cant be manipulated/ stimulated in every single case.

Cheers

Last edited by 510N3D, Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:59.

since this floorless stupid little castle looks pretty difficult he did quite a good job there Also enjoyed the commentary alot

+1

suicide mario ftw

:headbang:RACING FOR LIFE

@ Ice: looks dirty We need this for LFS fo shizzle!

@Harry: everybody get's busted once :P

Quote from Motordirex :

Heres an opinion.

Stock cars...whatever. The V8 Supercars can be considered stock cars and Id drive those.

-1 billion for ovals...for talentless hacks with A.D.D. If I want to watch a mindless idiot goes in circles, I`ll watch my stupid dog chase his tail.

recently on the oval....

+1 for oval's no matter what kind of but i'd prefer something like daytona or talladega
+1 for stockcars

In some way i have to agree on both sides, there has been alot of suggestions made in the past about this "combo", track or vehicle type and i bet some people gets annoyed by it. But why the spam? Because there's obviously a urgent need for such things. Im not saying that i support the spam in any way but lets just put it this way, LFS is most likely the first game which successfully put all those "racing styles" together and made it actually amazingly enjoyable, rally, drag & drift included, some people even create "free rooms" like C&R, CLC et cetera (forgive me if i forgot something) + the potential is still & by far unexhausted.
Well some other games did something simular already in some way or other but from my point of view, LFS is by far the best example that it actually works and a simulator can have all kinds of styles combined together without loosing its identity or authenticity.

Now the only problem is the community or some members of it. From what i have noticed in the past, alot of people here, besides those who are very polite, friendly & open for everything new or different, have got a lack of tolerance, tend to generalize things or simple spread wrong informations based on hearsay. Besides, since this is a "international forum", many language barriers can appear which is also a reason people should start "reading between the lines" and not judge every comment too serious, as long as its not insulting in any way. Also, after reading some very strange comments here and there, i do not understand why some people think they can have a influence on something very important, the decision of the developers on what kind of content will be added/ removed/ altered. Maybe there's a very small chance to do so but some people really try to decided in advance as like they are the developers themselves. This is at least for me, far more annoying then the "suggestion spam" and in the end, everybody except ScaViEr will have to wait and see what the next step will be. Bearing in mind that every patch was always a great step forward, i dont expect anything else & different for the future

Almost forgot to say something on-topic, im sure that this unique sound system will also be improved and i think it is by far not what it actually should be. Its already very complex and sounds more and more natural and since LFS is still alpha as far as i know, this is already a great preview for what we can probably expect in near future. And just in case, if this is already what it actually should be i think i just have to edit the car sounds i dislike by now a bit more. But to add a negative note as well, i agree with my mate Mr.Popps that the BF1 for now does not sound very realistic or like the "bee in a tin can". I at least couldn't find any preset or adjust it the way that it does.

Cheers

Last edited by 510N3D, Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:21.

was a demo player for more then a year myself and had the same thoughts, like more cars and at least 1 more track. But after getting the licence, i was convinced that the way the devs selected the demo content is the right way. You get a preview which is in fact pretty small but if you like this already then you'll love the full game!

Its totally worth the effort & money. And now get a licence!

Quote from Jakg :

how exactly does the Oval prepare you for racing? you use a different setup which COMPLETELY changes the handling, and you race the BF1 around a track which is flat out - even if your immense at it circuit racing WILL be different

...and we only race the oval....well researched. Im sure you dont know how oval prepares for racing -> "for a curcuit track". Because its also racing, thats why. About your comment regarding the setup, i dont get your point. Every track needs a decent setup, thats a fact, oval not excluded. About the difference for oval and curcuit tracks, i can see only two, curcuits are slower in gerneral and have some right handed turns.

Maybe ill try one of those curcuits....sounds interesting

Btw, since this is off-topic, i apologize & it also was my last reply here.

Cheers

Last edited by 510N3D, Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:13.

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Quote from LFSn00b :

Umm... Just randomly placed barriers.

218 laps on the oval with the BF1, thats why it is just "random" for you. What you see is a layout which basically forces you to use a line which is, proofed by many persons, the best in order to get a good lap time.

Quote from red_wing_2121 :

Besides, oval sets do not tend to vary much, barring the bump set of course.

hmm, i rly wonder why...

On Topic, i really like the new layout. At first, it was a bit strange to concentrate on the line itself but i got used to it quicker then i thought. On thing i have missed is that you could open the entry and exit of turn three so one could be able to do a fast lap. You know what im talking about :P

I just watched your replay and i got this message (watch picture), so i did a quick run my self and uploaded the replay until yours is fixed. Maybe its just because we use different versions? Im on W10 right now.


Cheers mate

Last edited by 510N3D, Thu, 19 Apr 2007 05:56.

Quote from Dalek0220 :

These drivers MUST be experinced, and not oval junkies

And where's the evidence that we are not experienced? I love those prejudices, really. (not)

Anyway, good luck & have fun.

yeah, true anyhow, it was just an idea

cheers

would it be possible to have a little field for every setup which contains:

created by: (field will be filled when the "new setup" function is used)
last edited by: last user edited the setup
moddified in total: how money times it has been moddified by every user

So you always know something more about the setup you are using.

Cheers

Quote from deathracer1923 :

im running 0.5Q....what would 0.5Q have to do with 0.3H??

Besides what the_angry_angel said, 0.5Q is S2 while 0.3H is S1.

Quote from the_angry_angel :

If anyone can provide me with patch Q, I dont mind doing it.

They're all compatible. If I remember correctly H6 or H4 was the first release with skidmarks, other than that I honestly cant remember

What I meant was if you don't use a patched version, you won't beable to join games hosted by patched versions. Otherwise there's no problems If you already had S1 unlocked it should remain unlocked

Ok thanks for that and here's the source for LFS 0.5P and the Patch Q.

http://www.gamershell.com/search/index.html?q=LIve+for+Speed


TIA

very nice, i was hoping for something like that, thanks alot. I have got a question regarding to this topic. Im having S2 Q installed as well and since this was the last one before the big physics update i would like to ask if a patch for this version would be possible as well?
Ok, maybe another question if you dont mind? Are there any major differences between H, H4 and H6? Im still and for ages at just H so im not sure about that.

Sorry, its a bit early and i dont rly get this (damn language barriers):

Quote from taa :

The downside is that the original copy of 0.3H is incompatible - which means anyone with an existing unlocked S1 version is a bit stuffed unless they want to run the patched version

so i unlocked S1 before the change of the master server adress and its my very old S1 version from Jan04, do i have any problems now, when patched with one of your files, in my case H ?



Cheers

Last edited by 510N3D, Fri, 13 Apr 2007 03:18.

did you visited some c&r servers recently?

Quote from ajp71 :

Best place to look:

http://www.nr2k3tracks.com/

wrong, this is by far the best place to look (for tracks):

http://www.raceservers.net/Software_Downloads.htm

nvm then, just delete the spam

Hello there, i have a small suggestion, would it be possible to make a undo & a reset button for the interface menu where you can edit the text colour, button opacity et cetera? Maybe even a preset menu/ option?
Cheers