2% out of how many billions of people? Would be quite a handful i suppose 
But yeah i guess (hope) youre right.
But yeah i guess (hope) youre right.I do hope so but i cant help myself thinking that those people are for real. Kind of an paradox but i tend to believe that the more informations there are, the more evidence is available the more some people tend to deny the truth while at the same time trying to find any possible and reasonable exuse for an justification. Go and have an argue with some right wing extremists and you will find the same behaviour. Some people really do live behind the moon or deep in the woods or just never learned to make use of their own head properly. There must be a counterpart for everything right?
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Ok now i get it, good point, but still i would find it rather interesting.
Not that it would change a damn thing which i have not denied at all
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i know, just for the sake of it maybe?
In real life times are also beeing compared (F1 for example) while the vehicles are changing every session and so it doesnt really makes sense (from my point of view) to keep the WR of a session that was like 10 years ago or so but it is for the sake of it as well (i guess) or simple to see how the difference really looks like, improved or degraded...
Or is that example not comparable?
In real life times are also beeing compared (F1 for example) while the vehicles are changing every session and so it doesnt really makes sense (from my point of view) to keep the WR of a session that was like 10 years ago or so but it is for the sake of it as well (i guess) or simple to see how the difference really looks like, improved or degraded...
Or is that example not comparable?
I do remember Victor once saying that he might add a history of the wrs or something into lfsworld. Not sure if thats still the case.
On topic, i think that from my point of view, basically focused on oval hotlapping, that some cars are having significantly improved, let it be due to the updated setup changes (like the engine moment of inertia or certain other limitations or reductions such as life camber or suspension) and its effects or the tire behaviour (GTRs are a good example and the FO8 is close to half a second faster). On the other hand, with some cars (like the BF1) im still producing the same laptimes even tho i already updated & optimised the setups.
I think since the oval is a track with less interferences by certain factors such as curbs, short cuts at certain areas or heavy/ often weight shifts, its pretty good for an objectively comparation. Not saying that it might as well be able to apply on curcuit tracks while using the same car in both versions with a simular setup since thats a far more complex picture but nevertheless, a specific pattern has become quite visible for me and its giving me an idea about what to expect on curcuit tracks.
Suspension settings in combination with correct camber settings for example are much harder to adjust while at the same time the feeling is not only different but also the settings needed to get the same performance then in patch X are absolutely different. Im not that much of a freak when it comes to the very deep knowledge and so i hope this makes sense in a way.
But yeah i do agree with Forbin, a comparation doesnt really makes sense but only to see how much LFS has evolved within all those years. Preconditioned that the track layout itself has not been changed at some point.
On topic, i think that from my point of view, basically focused on oval hotlapping, that some cars are having significantly improved, let it be due to the updated setup changes (like the engine moment of inertia or certain other limitations or reductions such as life camber or suspension) and its effects or the tire behaviour (GTRs are a good example and the FO8 is close to half a second faster). On the other hand, with some cars (like the BF1) im still producing the same laptimes even tho i already updated & optimised the setups.
I think since the oval is a track with less interferences by certain factors such as curbs, short cuts at certain areas or heavy/ often weight shifts, its pretty good for an objectively comparation. Not saying that it might as well be able to apply on curcuit tracks while using the same car in both versions with a simular setup since thats a far more complex picture but nevertheless, a specific pattern has become quite visible for me and its giving me an idea about what to expect on curcuit tracks.
Suspension settings in combination with correct camber settings for example are much harder to adjust while at the same time the feeling is not only different but also the settings needed to get the same performance then in patch X are absolutely different. Im not that much of a freak when it comes to the very deep knowledge and so i hope this makes sense in a way.
But yeah i do agree with Forbin, a comparation doesnt really makes sense but only to see how much LFS has evolved within all those years. Preconditioned that the track layout itself has not been changed at some point.
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Sounds reasonable for me popps. Just set the empty servers filter to "no", problem solved mate.
rather not but your comment certainly does...
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haha :doh: Funny, i found this thread was becoming rather interesting until you showed up. Thankfully youre not a mod and hopefully never will be.
yeah just checked it (any spr created with hotlap mode of course
). Thats strange because i do remember beeing in that situation while having a valid hotlap and i could not upload it. Im sure it was made in hotlap mode and also, as usual without any aditional software. Must had been for another reason i guess so nevermind eh have you saved the replay using "2" or simple renamed it? Because as far as i know, only replays are valid for the lfs hotlap charts that are beeing saved and automatically named while using "1".
Hmm i dont really understand what you mean. I assigned the paddles and the shifter once and i dont need to change anything. In the options/ driver page at the gear shift type i enable shifter to make sure its been used while driving road cars and thats it. Driving the openwheelers or FXR/ XRR for example im just using my paddles without changing anything before (meaning the shifter in the options stays enable while its simple disable for the time using a car that needs/ requires/ is using sequential transmission).
Edit: ah now i get it, youre switching the shifter from H-gate to sequential? Nevermind then.
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ah sweet, never thought its that detailed already. Must be that im more focusing on the races then paying attention at such features Was about time that i get this straight anyway
Thanks for the correction
Was about time that i get this straight anyway Thanks for the correction
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true, but still the inside tires remain connected to the road, meaning they are not floating or something so this would mean they will also leave some rubber. Taking 20 cars like in my example at least some colour change should be noticeable especially after a long race like this, right?
Also, does your drifting showed any evidence of a noticeable change of this darker area (or even a connection between the rubber and this area itself) at all? Meaning like explained in my example (moving from the very inside to the very outside or vise versa)
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ok never really payed attention on it tbh. The line is changing but only within a very small area, basically where its been placed at. If you have a look at the second picture then you will see the cars between the apex and this darker area which is where the actual ideal line (for this car) is and its been used by around twenty cars (number decreasing within the race for some reason ) and is not getting dark or even changing colour at all. But still i can see no evidence that the rubber and this darker area are actually connected.
Edit: this example would also mean, and im just guessing here, that this darker area would not change at any given track if people would take a corner at the outside (using a layout for example) and so this darker area would remain on the inside, untouched and not move to the most used outside line. Correct me if im wrong.
) and is not getting dark or even changing colour at all. But still i can see no evidence that the rubber and this darker area are actually connected.Edit: this example would also mean, and im just guessing here, that this darker area would not change at any given track if people would take a corner at the outside (using a layout for example) and so this darker area would remain on the inside, untouched and not move to the most used outside line. Correct me if im wrong.
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False, it just a rough idial line. Disable rubber and then press 4 in a spr or mpr. You will see that its just a texture placed above the track. Dont know what it has actually to do with the rubber feature but the only thing that is actually "building up" is the rubber itself, if only without any function yet.
I've just seen it myself and im quite sure you had some fun there.
While doing so i have realized that i have obviously forgotten to put your name into the end credits. My apologizes for that. :duck: Guess i was more worried about getting this thing done to see the final product then anything else 
you can also watch scawen in action if youre so desperate
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=34594
not that i want to dig out the "good old" stuff but...whatever
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=34594
not that i want to dig out the "good old" stuff but...whatever
what is the green light (right side) on the shifter doing? Is it going on/off constantly or is it constantly on? When its going on/off then surely the wheel axis has a defect somehow (or maybe the power adapter). Had the same with my first wheel, wouldn't work with pc and ps2.
1. make sure all cables are placed correctly into the back of the wheel
2. make sure the power adapter is correctly placed and also make sure (maybe with another device) that you actually get power out of the electrical outlet (sometimes they got a switch as well so make sure its switched on
)3. once connected and the pc is firing up it should calibrate itself, meaning the steering axis should go from left to right (or the oposite but that doesn't matter at all) completely while ending up in the center again
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setting EnableOcclusion from 1 to 0 made it work for me. Thats all it needed. So if you have a black screen try this before anything else.
As for the effects, well kind of like it, needs to be turned down a lot like in taavi's version but its still just *bling* *bling*
Ok, the only information about this track i have is that its 3 km long.
- track dimensions such as straight and corner width
- corner radius and radius changes
- banking angle and elevation changes
..is what im missing so i have actually no idea how to explain it to you correctly but i will try it another way:
If you go into a turn then you will see that the more you go to the inside the slower you will get (because of the increasing angle?) but the more time you will save because the distance compared to the outer lane is much shorter.
Now using a proper setup will help you to compensate the steepness up to a certain point and to get a better balance between gaining time and losing speed.
The red line which forces you to switch lanes throughout the turn is pretty much useless i guess because you will already lose more speed by turning in then you can gain while turning out again. But if you have a look at my line there you will see that i do already make use of that radius change by going slightly to the inside just before the end of the turn and then going wide right after again. Thats simular to what the red line does but not in that extent and more efficient, at least according to my experiences.
- track dimensions such as straight and corner width
- corner radius and radius changes
- banking angle and elevation changes
..is what im missing so i have actually no idea how to explain it to you correctly but i will try it another way:
If you go into a turn then you will see that the more you go to the inside the slower you will get (because of the increasing angle?) but the more time you will save because the distance compared to the outer lane is much shorter.
Now using a proper setup will help you to compensate the steepness up to a certain point and to get a better balance between gaining time and losing speed.
The red line which forces you to switch lanes throughout the turn is pretty much useless i guess because you will already lose more speed by turning in then you can gain while turning out again. But if you have a look at my line there you will see that i do already make use of that radius change by going slightly to the inside just before the end of the turn and then going wide right after again. Thats simular to what the red line does but not in that extent and more efficient, at least according to my experiences.
http://www.lfs.net/?page=analysers
Looks like he is using F1PerView but its been a while since i used it so im not 100% sure.
Thanks but im not a master but more a oval junkie. Im doing it for fun and everything else is just resulting out of my passion for it
Anyhow, youre right, the reason behind going wide at the turn before the hotlap is that you don't need to steer that much the wider you go and therefore can keep more speed throughout the turn and because of that take a few more kph along for the start/ finish straight. You see, having a fast outlap is just a waste of time so why not give it sense somehow and use it for the actual hotlap.
Sorry but where do you need to brake exactly on this track? Also, in which relation is "straighter" meant to be?
As for schumachers cornering technique, i also dont really understand the realation for this particular topic but maybe you can enlighten me since i've never have seen him driving on the oval (at least not a complete lap)
But, a while ago i've found this somewhere:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk2p2nRK-p4
maybe this is what you've meaned (somehow)?
Anyway, on topic, LiveForBoobs (
), i guess its just down to practice and how well you know the track/ car combo. Im not going into details regarding setups and stuff but after watching your replay i can give you a few tips:- dont force your car too much, steer as less and as smooth as possible, keep corrections at a minimum
- make use of the track, go as low as possible into the turns and as smooth and wide as possible back on the straights again
- timing is very important, get a feeling for when you need to steer in & out again because if you enter a turn to soon or too late then you will lose speed; leave a turn too soon or too late and you will lose speed and momentum
- im trying to feel where the setup wants me to lead the car to and then i just keep that line until the next "turn in point" approaches
- speaking about the ideal line, there is the general ideal line (if i can call it like that (im not talking about the line you get when you press 4 because its the AI line (while it can give you quite an idea about the actual line indeed
))) (meh) but each setup or vehicle will need a different approach for each area on the track and so the best line is dependent on your setup and the way you make use of it
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Reason : just for the sake of it
why would you want to compare it anyway? Its not even finished. Not to mention that i highly doubt that there are any "free" simulations out there and if so then i believe that the quality cant be that good to be even considerable for a comparison.
Project Torque? And whats next? Need for Speed or Super Mario Land?
ok, while i do agree on the 98% and the quality of most of those threads i was mainly referring to the remaining 2% which are mostly having an actual and reasonable background. There, every now and then the same trolls appear while working with the same absurd comments.
Anyway, bottom line is that i just cant stand it when things are beeing downplayed just like i cant stand it when things are beeing overstated.
Anyway, bottom line is that i just cant stand it when things are beeing downplayed just like i cant stand it when things are beeing overstated.
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