Finally something I can win !


I'll try to compete though, good initiative.

One of the NDR leaders, preferable those doing the broadcast.
Or DeadWolfBones. Or Three Jump. Or AtomAnt. Or Orion. Or...

Pardon me for bumping an old topic, but I just watched the replay of the 500 race and must say... very excellent broadcast . Much more enjoyable than a lot of other races on television, great job!

18 pages is not that much at all. Took me 10 minuts of reading after a 2 minute diagonal scope. A lot could indeed be put shorter or get skipped, but I see no need for that. Amateur league or not, I like and want a professional organisation. Rulebooks and briefings are also part of real life racing, just like they're part of LFS. I enjoyed seeing the first edition of the rulebook and being able to shape it, gives me envolvement in the leauge and joy; makes me looking forward to be able to race as professional as the big shots, in endurance style, but of course 5 seconds a lap slower .

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I just want to show up, qualify and race; not wait a week/a day between sessions! I like qualifying in that it's quite short and tense. 1 hour 45 mins of quali seems too much to me, if I'm honest. The half hour extreme sessions were more fun and also frustrating, which is what the league should be about; being absolutely on the edge of control but not over the edge. Giving the drivers nearly 2 hours to hotlap and smash into barriers isn't right; you might as well just take hotlaps from LFSW. It's too easy! Just my insight there.

I agree with the above quote. Qualifications just before the race is fun and less predictable. Not to mention it makes organising our (amateur endurance) teams a lot more easier ! It also allows for some better contact between the racers; most will show up a bit ealier for the qualify and then can chat a bit, mess around the track, ect... (eg. like in the latest IGTC event), followed up by a tense qualify, a little break and then a professional and undoubtful great endurance race!

:eclipsee_

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Regarding the Blend lines, the first bold section regards pit entry, the second relates to pit exit.

That's what I was thinking, though I just asked to get it clear.
Thank you also (all) for clearing up the rest. I don't have any other questions or remarks standing so far.

Perhaps... it would be useful to do a little "test" event before Race 1 of the new season ? Get through the possible options; a red flag, a race start, getting back in formation behind a SC, ... ?

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XI.Pit Lane
1. During green flag conditions, the pit lane shall remain open and pits tops may be made freely.
a. The entry lane as marked by the yellow or white line is a guideline to which no penalty will be enforced for cutting. Exceptions may be listed on certain courses in the Drivers’ Briefing thread prior to a round.
b. You may use any currently open pit stall for your pitstop. Travel to the
furthest stall down to reduce risk of collisions in pit lane.
c. Do not re-enter the track until the yellow or white line ends, or other further markings by race administration. Crossing this line may result in a drivethrough penalty.

Can this be cleared up please ? I have my idea of what it means, but somehow I find it a bit unclear mentioned (as being new to such strict and official regulations :razz.

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I still think in shift P or S should be utterly banned unless so directed by race admin. It has no place in a serious league.

I agree, if you get stuck or you crash your car so badly that you can't return to the pits for repairs (once in pitlane shift+p can be used of course) then your qualify session ends.

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Is the mandatory use of IRC really required ? I know of future to come situations where in my team only the racer will be online at given moments due to real life issues for the other racers which can not be active behind the computer.

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VII. Qualification Procedure
1. Each race weekend shall have two qualifying sessions. The fastest time of the
two sessions will be taken to set the grid.
a. Session One shall be held from 20:00 UTC on the Sunday Preceding the race.
and shall run for sixty (60) minutes.
b. Session Two shall be held from 20:00 UTC on the Friday preceding the race
and shall run for forty-five (45) minutes.
2. A maximum of two (2) drivers from a team may take part in the two sessions.
There shall be only one driver per team on course at any given time.
3. During qualifying, teams may tele-pit or spectate at will and rejoin the session.
4. There is no limit to the amount of laps that may be driven during qualification.

What's the motivation behind having the qualify on two different dates ? Why can't it be done on race day itself (eg. like in IGTC) ?

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Is doing both qualify sessions mandatory ? Are there penalties for missing a session ?

Sincerely,

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VII. Qualification Procedure

2. A maximum of two (2) drivers from a team may take part in the two sessions.
There shall be only one driver per team on course at any given time.

The "A" is in bold and should not be in bold. So far no other errors spotted.

Quote from nikopdr :

You can mostly draw a glowing circle, then blur it and erase the lines that go over the wheels.

I'll give that a try, thanks.

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Good news again coming out of our South City HQ: SCCC has a new racing server. Currently we're trying a month testing period for the server, so all you folks are welcomed to race on it. We'll be organising some events soon as well to test the heavy load and durability of the server. Much thanks to AtomAnt.

The Adress: Active SCCC Server

The Dresscode: Fun, Fair and Fast racing.

Currently we do not have any fancy plugins installed, but we'll get that sorted out soon. We'll install a few plugins but really nothing too much or annoying. We're there for racing, not to get spammed with pointless info.

No Admin will be present for 24/7. Fair racing is thé most important aspect of SCCC, but we can not monitor the server 24/7. Therefor we'd like to do a call for you all: if someone is misbehaving (cursing, wrecking, ...) please save the replay and send it in a private message to GianniC. We'll review it asap and take correct action.

The combo can be decided by the racers themselfs and we at SCCC will now and then change the combo as well. Currently we'll start with the som fun to race combo's and short race lenghts. Though you'll also be able to expect some less usual combo's on your server (LX6 someone?) or some endurance type lenghted races.

Other comments or feedback are welcomed here, on our forum or in GianniC's inbox.

Have a great time !

Little update: Server is now renamed to "SCCC Open Server".
Not sure why, but it was the divine will of AtomAnt, so that's how it will be!

:bowdown:

Q: How do you make those organge heated brakes ?
I'd love to be able to make them for this picture:

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What car(s)/track(s) are used, and what is the lenght on the races?

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The combo can be decided by the racers themselfs and we at SCCC will now and then change the combo as well. Currently we'll start with the som fun to race combo's and short race lenghts. Though you'll also be able to expect some less usual combo's on your server (LX6 someone?) or some endurance type lenghted races.

Cars used at the moment of writing is GTR and KY GP Long Rev (in training for the upcoming OLFSL race) with short race lenght. But if a Cabbie is online he can and will edit the server on request of the present racers. Feel like racing LX6 and FE Black ? No problem! Want to spend next saturday racing FXO at SO Town only and nothing else ? No problem, send us a note upfront, we'll set the server and bring some friends with you! We'll also have some endurance training events for the GTAL and IGTC soon, we might make those events "public" to please people their endurance feelings. All tracks and all cars are open for useage (but not all at same time of course).

That's currently how we'll do it; nicely oldskool .

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Good news again coming out of our South City HQ: SCCC has a new racing server. Currently we're trying a month testing period for the server, so all you folks are welcomed to race on it. We'll be organising some events soon as well to test the heavy load and durability of the server. Much thanks to AtomAnt.

The Adress: Active SCCC Server

The Dresscode: Fun, Fair and Fast racing.

Currently we do not have any fancy plugins installed, but we'll get that sorted out soon. We'll install a few plugins but really nothing too much or annoying. We're there for racing, not to get spammed with pointless info.

No Admin will be present for 24/7. Fair racing is thé most important aspect of SCCC, but we can not monitor the server 24/7. Therefor we'd like to do a call for you all: if someone is misbehaving (cursing, wrecking, ...) please save the replay and send it in a private message to GianniC. We'll review it asap and take correct action.

The combo can be decided by the racers themselfs and we at SCCC will now and then change the combo as well. Currently we'll start with the som fun to race combo's and short race lenghts. Though you'll also be able to expect some less usual combo's on your server (LX6 someone?) or some endurance type lenghted races.

Other comments or feedback are welcomed here, on our forum or in GianniC's inbox.

Have a great time !

Last edited by GianniC, Tue 25 Aug 2009, 08:41.

Race was dull once again. I just don't like this track at all. Why do they keep building tracks where people can not or hardly at all pass ? Quit those new idiot rules for "more fun into F1" and just get tracks where people not named Hamilton (or similair big talented racers) can pass.

Bruno Senna at Monza ?

Good racing so far, keep it up all.

And as always, good commentators, really thank you for doing so. Makes it so much more enjoying to watch and lifts up the glamour of the league!

Last edited by GianniC, Sat 22 Aug 2009, 19:38.

"What are you going to expect of this race Chris ?"
*few seconds silence*
"Chaos!"



PS: Chat in LFSWorld

Good luck all racers!


GC looks out of the Cabbie SO HQ Window to spectate the race.

Hehe... room for imporvement still, but at least you keep going. Glad I could aid you with the show (and for the record; not my real voice, Felipe covered it for me).

The cursor and movies advice are little things, for episode 3 you do got to work on the (1) clear recording and (2) remove that voice at the start. Just start your show with your normal voice saying "Hello everyone, welcome to my show!" or something.

Keep listening to the advice and have your fun !

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Damion:

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This guys they have the time but not the speed and expirince for the 2major leaugs would drive here to get better.
And so I disagree with you when you say only teams they didn`t take part at the IGTC/MoE could drive in the GTAL.

So if Conedodgers brings forward a team consisting entirely out of non-IGTC and MoE racers, they perfectly can race in GTAL (according to what I propose - see bold below quote).

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If your team races in MoE or IGTC, you can't race in GTAL, unless bringing in an entire new pack of drivers

In General:

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At Conedodgers we have more as 50 members (and we are not the only team with more as 10 members) and only 4-5 of them are drive in the IGTC/MoE and the rest say we have not the speed or the time to practice to take part at this leauges.

Then why are you taking part in this league ? If you got 50 members (or +10 members) and you can't find 2-5 racers who can train for this league and are "fast enough by you word" to participate in this league, then why do you participate ?

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but that if a driver feel that he isnt IGTC worthy, he can write a PM to the GTAL leaders, to ask for an exception. Then, they will review if he is good enough for IGTC or not.

What's the definition of "not feeling IGTC worthy" ? On what criteria will the have to review this driver ? What is "good enough" for IGTC or not ? Just saying: this is way too subjective and I see the abuses of this already coming by miles (from eg. Core Racing).

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As we both have been managers, and we both are drivers

I'm a (team) manager and racer also, your point ? When I read Damion's and your proposal all I see is one thing: we're a big team, we want to shuffle in a pro in our amateur team so we can win.


How about this ?

Driver races in MoE ?
No GTAL.

Driver races in IGTC ?
No GTAL.

Driver has raced previous season in MoE ?
No GTAL.

Driver has raced previous season in IGTC ?
Individual review by admins, done on specific criteria which are made public. All teamleaders must agree.

Driver has raced previously (more than one season in between) in MoE and / or IGTC ?
Individual review by admins, done on specific criteria which are made public.

Checking racing hours ? Hmm. I believe that our new Admins do have better things to do than that. I don't really understand the fuzz about the issue here. It's easy and clear, why always try to bend the rules or abuse the loopholes .

GTAL is for teams who're new or reasonable new to endurance racing in LFS. If you're racing in MoE you're obviously no longer an amateur. IGTC might be borderline, then again... it's obvious that a team of nFinity eSports or Core Racing is not new to endurance racing. If your team races in MoE or IGTC, you can't race in GTAL, unless bringing in an entire new pack of drivers to endurance racing. Like this for example Core Racing can introduce their younger, unexperienced in endurance racing drivers also into the world of endurance racing while defending their team name and colours. If a driver has ever raced in MoE or IGTC he or she can not race in GTAL, like this we also avoid some pre-planning in drivers doing one season MoE, other season GTAL. Primary focus is on the drivers, secondary focus is on the teams. I believe that's pretty crystal clear and not abuseable. If one of the big teams cancel their application to IGTC or MoE in order to race in GTAL-only and "win hands down", well... guess that says enough about what kind of team that is... I doubt that will happen.

Looking forward to hear more about GTAL soon !

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Quote from Kalev EST :

That's something that can't be forgiven, ever!

Aaah, please forgive him dear Sir, he's new and has still much to learn !


SCCC can always use new pilots, however applications are a bit more strict currently. Lets get the new guys integrated first.

Thank you for clearing that up Dekojester.

Reason why SCCC applied to IGTC was simply because we did not know about GTAL and believed that IGTC was the first step to endurance racing. Until we bumped into GTAL . Currently our IGTC application will stay up, until we have full confirmation to be able to participate in the upcoming GTAL season.

While I am present here, a big thank you to the new management for pushing this league forward. If you require aid with something, please let us know. Our Cabbies would gladly aid you in organising this endurance league.

Sincerely,

Tryed Procaster... looks to work for myself, but how do I get others to be able to view my broadcast ?
The url doesn't give image, TV director works and is on...

http://www.livestream.com/sccc_tv

PS: Great guide and tools, thanks!

Last edited by GianniC, Tue 18 Aug 2009, 12:12.

Buy the license first, you'll get mostly better racing, more cars and tracks to explore and racing with your mouse as controller is not thàt bad. Meanwhile you can save up for a wheel.

Welcome!

Good report! Hm. Maybe I'll replace my old MS Sidewinder FF... Though $300 is kind of a lot of money.
I agree with Blackout though, a point system to compare is one thing, but don't overdo it.
Good show again for the rest.

No comment about the clothes part, although it was a bit too obvious

Edit: Actually I'll do comment on the clothes part.
A dress like here is just as hot, but has a lot more style.
There is no need for nearly naked outfits and let us keep focus on the wheel (and Shaun :shy.

Last edited by GianniC, Mon 17 Aug 2009, 09:43.

I enjoyed watching it, very well done !