Quote from Bokujishin :

Yeah, first of all, why 59? 2*26 letters + 10 digits is 62, remove O, 0, I and l and you get 58.
Then the result itself is wrong: 59^20 is 2.612 403 355 × 10^35, while the AI basically said 7.573 809 985 × 10^33 for some reason...
and 58^20 = 1.855 922 647 × 10^35

I tried ChatGPT out of curiousity and while it seems to have the right "logic" and even knows it should be 58^20... it calculates it as 8.97x10^34 which is... not right lmao

If I had to guess for Grok's answer, it's parsing the 1-10 and including 0 in the character set because AI is really stupid and doesn't actually think

Quote from Bokujishin :

Yeah, first of all, why 59? 2*26 letters + 10 digits is 62, remove O, 0, I and l and you get 58.
Then the result itself is wrong: 59^20 is 2.612 403 355 × 10^35, while the AI basically said 7.573 809 985 × 10^33 for some reason...
and 58^20 = 1.855 922 647 × 10^35

So glad big tech has decided this is the future and we got no choice in the matter.

Even sadder that people rely upon it for basic things rather than using their own brains.

Quote from cargame.nl :

Is LFS a bank nowadays? 20 characters is a bit insane if you'd ask me.

asking AI means that the number is probably wrong lmao

especially asking the racist ai

Quote from murtagh :

I also can not get in my email so I have to wait one week to play? why is this happening?! i wanna play now...

People were having their accounts stolen and re-sold.

Quote from lovnts :

This is sad from Scawen after 20 years a system like this is being created!!!!!!! You must cancel this system and restore the old system.

Is there some reason you'd want accounts to be easier to steal?

It makes no sense why you're defending so strongly against security lmao.

Do you have a vested interest in making it easier for accounts to be stolen?

Quote from cuni :

2FA shouldn't be a priority, sure better security is better, later update is worse.
The current system is working for 99(.9?)% of users.


iRenting and Steam are not games, more like bank accounts where users dump hundreds (more like thousands) of FIAT money.

FYI: Fiat money is a type of government-issued currency, authorized by government regulation to be legal tender. Typically, fiat currency is not backed by a precious metal, such as gold or silver. Since the end of the Bretton Woods system in 1976 all the major currencies in the world are fiat money.
source

And was your LFS account free?

Quote from cuni :

I dont think you need 2FA for a game, just be hygienic about internet exposure/security :
- Use password manager[pwm] (you only memorize one big password that you only use in one place to unlock the pwm. all generated passwords are random (attached image as example)
- Check the browser address bar and/or check the hyperlink text on the bottom of the browser before clicking hypertext or when visiting a website
- When using an app and someone sends you a link instead of clicking and opening the link, copy the link, paste it on the browser, verify website is what you expect or recognize
- If it's too good to be true, then don't.

I could bet my money that the 10% of LICENSED valid accounts "stolen", are "new" accounts, i.e iPad kids

The way LFS auth is setup though, there's really no great reason as to not have 2fa (even if it's email codes, but TOTP better) because you already have separation between securing your game account vs accessing the game.

Pretty much every online platform, including gmaes like iRacing and Steam offer some 2FA option or even OAuth (to allow another platform's TOTP/Passkey to secure the account)

Quote from Kapurke :

I'm using good old win10. Headset works flawlessly in WMR and assetto works fine with steamVR also with opencomposite openXR.

Have you tried LFS with/without OpenComposite? If with OpenComposite it might need you to manually copy in the 32 bit dlls into the LFS folder (it may have tried to use the 64 bit ones which won't load into LFS).

Without it should _just work_ which is the experience I've had.

Quote from Scawen :

Thanks. Do you select "Oculus Rift" setting in the Options - View - 3D - VR headset dialog?

I ask as these days it's a bit strangely named in LFS and could possibly cause confusion.

Like: You want to use a "Meta Quest" so select "Oculus Rift".

It's still the Oculus software on PC. A more "apt" name for it would just be "Oculus/Meta" as it includes the ancient Oculus Rift/Rift S headsets but also the Quest line (which were also initially called Oculus and then became called Meta because Facebook rebranded it all)

Although pretty much everyone has moved to OpenXR as it's a "consistent" standard that supports all headsets and other headsets natively like Pimax which can then be used without SteamVR.

Many people these days also opt to not use Oculus Link for PC connectivity as it lacks certain customization options for performance/picture quality as well as poor reliability and instead use things like Virtual Desktop which connects wirelessly (or via USB-C networking) as a SteamVR headset.

Quote from Kapurke :

Hey, guys. Having some trouble with my VR headset and LFS. Recently purchased used HP Reverb G2 and it does not work with LFS game either through SteamVR, neither through OpenComposite. Was there some kind of recent update, that killed the compatibilty or something?

What version of Windows are you running?

Windows11 24H2 update fully removes support for WMR headsets with no way to get them working without downgrading. At least presently this is the case, the author of OpenXR Toolkit (among countless other VR things) teased a project that allows WMR headsets to work in Win11 in versions where WMR has been "removed".

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Pretty much every headset works with OpenVR (AKA SteamVR)

Quote from Mister2zx3 :

Can only imagine a LFS $250 edition and a kickstarter for a huge LFS 25th anniversary track and update package, maybe raise $2.5million and see what they turn out...

a few dozen of the most raced tracks and private clubs, and a few amazing features for local hosted servers and teams, points control, driver swaps, broadcasting/rendering de/centralized streams, and all without increasing rental charges.

Money can't make 2 people work faster and it's been made crystal clear that Scawen & co are happy with the team and work styles as they are.

If Microsoft gives me the $1000 to replace my VR headset then I'll consider upgrading.

Quote from Viperakecske :

Similar to how it looks at the moment

buddy you might need to hit up an optometrist

Quote from de Souza :

I don't think there's any "improving Monaco". Pushing the chicane forward would probably help, but there's not enough space to make a slow chicane near Tabac. A fast one wouldn't help either.

But you know what? We already have 20+ races in the calendar. We have all sorts of tracks and many with easy overtakes.
I'm actually ok with having one track (or two, if you consider Singapore) where Saturday is the ultimate challenge. That qualify was great.

The forced 2 stop strategy also created some funny moments as well as Mercedes doing the dumbest strat with 4 pit stops in the last 8 laps

Quote from Meseplayer :

Ok, but I don´t see the cheat, you are permitted to go when lights go green...

You automate the start by immediately dumping clutch/triggering a launch control routine once you receive the local green flag packet, eliminating the human delay/jump start potential.

Win11 kills my VR headset so I'm staying on Win10 for the foreseeable future.

Quote from johneysvk :

imagine hotlapping le mans in a UF1

It's boring AF in the entry level race cars in iRacing (think M2, GR86). Can't imagine it in something Formula Vee speed.

Quote from Silver Razor :

I'm experiencing some stuttering when having vertical sync enabled in full screen mode (same with the fps limiter enabled to 60fps in windowed mode). It happens mostly in detailed areas of certain tracks like the buildings part of the Blackwood car park. If i disable the vertical sync or fps limiter, the game seems to run with less stuttering, i'm stable over 200+ fps, topping at 270+ fps. Just in case, my cpu is a Ryzen 7 5800X.

Yeah that's kind of expected as LFS updates at 100hz so anything that's not a equal multiple will occasionally stutter. It's an issue in VR, especially as headsets are like 70-90 hz which will always seem a bit off, especilly when looking left/right

Quote from 3DJ :

I had pretty much flawless results using OpenComposite to upgrade to OpenXR with an HP Reverb G2 and an RTX 2080 Ti.
So I added it to PCGamingWiki:
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Live_for_Speed#VR_support

OpenXR Toolkit doesn't seem to load though, and I suspect it's because the game uses Direct3D 9, and only 11 and 12 are supported, at least on my GPU.
https://mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Toolkit/#supported-graphics-cards

I think OXR Toolkit not working is because LFS is 32 bit.

The DX11/12 requirement is just for foveated rendering

Quote from Abone :

You are right about irl, i know what you mean👍. In LFS if i stop the car, i cant Change gears without clutch, just can go neutral. In a normal real life driving i always need a clutch for Change gear/neutral.

No you don't.

You just need to release the load off the gearbox to shift out of gear and match the engine speed to go into gear.

Interestingly Moza's went and taken their FFB Flight Stick and now offers sequential/h-pattern shifting modes with it so in thoery a dev could actually implement a proper H-pattern gear shifter with accurate resistances if they wanted

Quote from Lucas McFly :

I have been using Windows 11 on i7-4790K for 2 years and I have no problems with BSOD

Yet.

Quote from Lucas McFly :

On this processor and platform, you can also install Windows 11 24H2.

It is not a complicated 'operation'

At one point Microsoft will break it. They already have caused boot BSODs on unsupported hardware without any way "back".

Plus if Linux works, why not?