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Hallen
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Quote from SamH :Nahh that's really what I meant. I don't think everyone assumed Moore's perspective at all.. but in general sentiment, I think it's a good place to start if you're an American wanting to figure out what "everyones' issue is" with Americans. There's lots of good conversation-starters in Moore's documentaries.

Moore's stuff is the worst kind of one-sided, opinionated, grandstanding with extremely limited grasp on reality that can't be rebutted because it is in the form of a movie. It is a good place to start if you want the longest possible trip to the truth. "Documentaries" is the wrong word to use for his work. One man's vengeful opinion is not a documentary.

America is it's own worst enemy for sure. America's politics are arguable. But that is the beauty of it and other free countries. Do you think a regime run by Nazi's or Saddam would allow any arguing in the first place? Don't think so. But there is another type of total control regime out there. It is the benign "we will take care of you because you are unable to take care of yourself" regime. This government thinks that you are not smart enough to take care of yourself so the government will wheedle its way into everything you do to the point of even telling you how to think. This is similar to communism. It is designed to help the little guy, but in the end, all it does is control the little guy.

Say what you want, but please, do real research first and don't base it off of Moore's diatribe. And don't generalize to an entire population. The US has all types. I have friends that hale from all points on the globe and I am extremely grateful for that.

And for Rabbi, don't let a couple of punks influence your fun. Ignore them, go to a different server and don't project their stupidity on other people. They are responsible for their actions as you are responsible for yours.
Hallen
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Quote from Psymonhilly :omg ?!?!? lost connection?"!?"?"!? :irked:
1st time ever in a olfsl race ..i mightly upset that i could not fight for 14-15th place with [Nassa] Hallen .
was it only me?? coz i hardly ever get lost connection unless bawbag kicks me
big thx for all olfsl members & drivers for a fun season and hope to get back racing here very soon.

It was not only you, a few others diconnected, but not at the same time. I can't be sure if they left because of wrecking out or if they had a computer problem. One person had a problem with a virus program popping up.
I had a bad race. I was up to 4th at one point because of people wrecking in front of me. I then got stupid and had a very strange off on the last corner. The car just slid off wide. I did it to myself, but I am not sure how right now. Then I had the rear lock up on my in the same corner and I lost a lot of time. I was never able to catch back up.
But, overall, I am pretty happy. It was my first race in a long time up in pool 2.

Sorry you were not there the whole race to battle with me. It would have been fun. It turns out that only 10 cars finished. I was 9th. I expected some dropouts because of wrecks. Many people were taking the chicane way too fast and taking way too much curb (kerb) on the second part of the chicane. I figured there would be several flips there. But I did not expect that many people to drop out.
Hallen
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I had a league race with a choice of the GT or GTi. I of course chose the GT, a car that I am very familiar with from S1. I lapped it hard, progressively improving my lap times.
I posted my hotlap for grid position, and I noticed that everybody else drove the GTi and was getting much faster times than me. I am normally mid-pack in this league, but I was near the bottom with the GT.

I broke out the GTi, and after a few laps I had smashed my PB with the GT. I was able to post a time so that I was at my normal mid-pack starting position.

The point of all of this is that I know how to drive the rwd cars. I like rwd cars better. My LX4 time on FE1R is 45.6x. Not too shabby.
But, the GTi is so much faster than the GT, you have to drive it in races that allow both or you will not be competitive.
Hallen
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Quote from MadCatX :.... BTW, it must be great to have a brother who plays LFS

Yeah, except they are obvioiusly sharing a computer so both can't play at the same time. It's great, but probably leads to arguments
Hallen
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Quote from r4ptor :Yes, thats true - but it bothers me more that players that don't know whats going on can just press 1 and wupti - as in Billeh's case - an innocent driver gets banned.

If that is the case, then it is just a 24 hour ban. Only an admin can set a ban for longer than the default. So, either there are somewhat careless admins for that server, or the offence was somewhat more egregious than thought.
Hallen
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Quote from AndroidXP :
Good luck finding people

Well, you have to understand that since 'Mericans are voracious consumers, each 'Merican LFS racer sucks up approximately double the bandwidth that any given European racer would. Therefore, it takes only half the number of 'Mericans to test a server as it would if only anemic Europeans were used.

The other way of looking at it is if we have more good NA based servers, maybe we can grow the NA fan base
Hallen
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Good points, guys.

The necesity to see and avoid is an important issue. I think that is more the reason for the rule than who has rights to the line. Unless you have a reasonable chance to see the other car, you can't avoid them. It then beomes a safety issue instead of an overtaking rule.

Lets face it. The white car was a lot faster. The blue car was blocking. They could block because they had a "right" to the line. He was not doing illegal or even unethical blocking, he was just trying to stay on his line. But he had to know the white car was there and trying to pass. In my opinion, he opened the door into that corner and was irresponisble to try and close the door after opening it. But, if you go by the letter of the FIA rules (I know it is sanctioned by another body), he might still have had the right to the line, but the vid is still not conclusive... to me.

From the other videos I have watched of this type of car, the type of sliding the blue car was doing is not normal. Either his car setup was crap, or he did not have the skill that he needed in that car. The rules are one thing, but if you know you are going to get eaten up, then you better be ready for people to try and pass you. Being right according to the rules does not magically unbend your car.
Hallen
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Quote from Funnybear :So much for the quick one liner comeback . . .

The multiple voices in my head deserve the chance to speak out :nut:
Hallen
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Quote from skiingman :
edit: Here is a link to an ATF press release from this week about this very issue. South Carolina is the culprit here: http://www.atf.gov/press/fy06p ... d/032806ny_gunrunners.htm


No arguments there. The point is, there has to be a market for the guns, or they wouldn't be going there. If it were not from the current source, it would come from someplace else.
Hallen
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Quote from Vain :When LFS is sold to EA the setups will feature sliders like:
Drifting:
|---------X--|
Intensity of underlight:
|-----X------|
Breastsize of the chick on the passenger seat:
|------------|---X

Attachment size of driver:
|------------|----OO

Vain

You forgot one. I added it with the specialized slider
Hallen
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Quote from skiingman :
Uh, no. Have you ever spent time in Texas? I wouldn't call it the land of civility or politeness.

Hmmmm, I think I might know what the problem is there

Quote from skiingman :Folks here who are my close friends still don't get the sarcasm.

Ah, yes. The answer to the problem above. If nobody understands your "humor" but you, then maybe you should reevaluate your view of the world. I know those last comments were meant to be funny, you almost made it there, but still missed the mark.

Quote from skiingman :I personally think its hilarious to see the jokes the Euros make about Americans, particularly when you turn them around. Did you see the recent Daily Show segment on the Danish?

Nope, sorry I didn't.

Quote from skiingman :No, not NY per se. Moreso the Northeastern United States in general.

BTW, I don't actually believe that. Its just funny to get a rise out of people living in flyover states...

I figured that one out on my own
Quote from skiingman :
Nope, like I said they both went to NY after their higher educations...

No, you did not directly say they were from NY, but you implied that they were and you did not say anything about after their higher educations. Words mean things, dude, and it also means things when you leave words out.

Quote from skiingman :You see, I can make as many desparaging jokes as I want about NY, Georgia, the Danish, etc. and not get my panties in a bunch if the tables are turned on me. That capability is something the British surely seem to have in spades, but it seems many Americans do not.

Hmmm, that is where we disagree. There is a difference between self deprecation and wild generalisms that are solely aimed at implying other people have less worth than you do. It can be a very fine line. Sarcasm does NOT come across well in text unless you do a particularly good job of writing. Sarcasm can be cutting and cruel, or it can be extremely funny, but a lot of people only learn the cruel side of it. The fact that it is just not funny seems to slide right past them.

You know what you are thinking, the train of thought that makes it funny, but we can't read your mind. The comment about guns and Georgia is a good example. There is nothing funny about that. Now if you would have said they send all those "legal" guns with filed off serial numbers to NY to insure that as many New Yorkers kill themselves off as possible, then it would have been funny. It implies that people from Georgia will let anybody own a gun and that they will to do crazy things with the gun, and people in NY are just as culpable because they actually use the guns on each other. Now, you have to think, who is really the stupid one here?

I know I get bent out of shape on things too easily. I am too literal of a person. So, have fun with your humor, I hope it works out for you. But be careful, in Texas, shooting annoying Yanks is justifiable homicide
Hallen
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Quote from skiingman :YES.

I say sarcastic things all the time that would be just plain understood in the northeast and these folks here in the southwest stare at me like I'm crazy or I killed their dog, depending on the particular remark.

Uh, ya. It's just that they probably can't understand a word you are saying seeing as they speak English there. Also, there is an assumption of civility and politeness out west and sarcasm is saved for people who you are willing to call a friend, if it is meant as a jest, and for your enemies if it is not.

Quote from skiingman :
Who cares? Where are the writers from?

Dana Klein: NY
Marta Kauffmann: Went to Brandeis, then took up theatre in NY
David Crane: Ditto.

Humor like friends just doesn't come from Georgia. I'm making a generalization, but sometimes that isn't so crazy or bad.

DOH! I forgot, ain't nuthin gud 'les it come outa Nnugh Yauk.
Lets see, 6 under-employed 20-something characters living in apartments way beyond their means, getting themselves caught in all kinds of goofy situations yet still manage to maintain their strong bond of friendship even while they swap mates like fruit flies in heat... Nope, I guess that kind of humor couldn't happen anywhere but New York.

Oh, and since David Crane was born in Philadelphia and is Ditto with Marta, then I assume neither of them are from New York?

The only thing I don't like about New York (city) is that way too many New Yorkers end up moving out west. Please, stay right where you are and live in your own self centered little world. The rest of us will be a lot happier. That way, we can take our vacations to "The City", watch all the loonies (it's almost better than watching the loonies in Las Vegas), and go home to our dull, unenlightened little lives in the real world.
I'm making a generalization, but sometimes it's spot on.
Hallen
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If you did not save by hitting 1 or you did not hit escape and hit "replay", then it might not have saved. This is to keep the clutter on your hard drive down.
However, another reason might be that it was not a HLVC good lap, and those don't get saved.

Were you running in hotlap mode or single player mode?
Hallen
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Many possible issues here. One is that there is a firewall. There are the software firewalls that you can turn off, and there are hardware firewalls that you may have to punch holes in for LFS to work... but usually that is only the case if you are trying to run a server.

Find the master server IP address and send it a ping and see what happens.

Also, your ISP might have a proxy server upstream of you that is causing a problem, or they might have some form of firewall setup.

Another thing to check is all your IP settings and make sure that they are configured properly.

If the demo worked before, then S2 will work. It is not the game that is a problem.

Good luck and keep at it, you will figure it out.
Hallen
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Quote from Tick :Becky I was on a server with you for a short time the other night, I thought it strange a female would publish a girls name knowing good and well that you are going to be harrassed.

Tick

Oh, come on. That is like saying a girl deserves to get raped because she wore a sexy dress. It is NOT her problem, it is immature males who are the problem.

She is a person who likes to race. She is female and probably does not want to use a racer name like BallsOfFire or EvilSpeed. I know what it is like, I have lived for long periods of time in places with a very low male to female ratio. It is always a nice to see a member of the opposite sex show up. But that does not mean that she is just dying to stop racing and have a sexy chat with you. All of that is in YOUR head. She is just there to race.

The point is, LFS is not a pick-up zone.

If you are that desperate, try an online dating service, the women are there to meet guys (no shame there guys, it does work... I know from experience)

Oh, and Becky, I do ask other racers how old they are sometimes, and I do like to know if the person I am talking to is male or female. I am a way older than average racer myself and sometimes I get tired of dealing with childish behavior. Surprisingly though, a lot of times the most childish racers are a lot older than I would have thought. It has helped to recage my perceptions a lot ;-)

Best of luck and keep racing. There are a lot of good people out there in this game and a lot of good racing.
Hallen
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Quote from danowat :That is also very true, but what is LFS?, a physics playground, or a realistic racing sim?.

Dan,

It seems like there can be two different definitions for a realistic sim. One definition states that the constraints of the real world like suspension settings, ability to see a track map, real world cars, and real world tracks make the sim realistic.

On the other hand, the other definition is that a sim is realistic if it closely models the physics of the real world and is a pure environment... in other words, as little as possible is scripted and controlled by the program.

Both of these definitions require quality graphics, sounds and other features.

There is a blending of these two definitions at times too. There are some people that want both in one and there are some who want nothing in the sim that they could not have in real life, like a moving track map.

So, you can have your own definition for realism, but please understand, we get tired of reading definitive statements like "Except the setup system in LFS is totally unrealistic, as opposed to the GTL setup system where they actually have capped settings."
I would argue that they are not unrealistic at all. All of those settings can exist in the real world. That is my definition of realistic. It is not physically impossible to do. Is it not plausible in an engineering and cost perspective? Sure. But that is a cool feature of simulators.

And LFS settings are capped. You can't set a value of 5000psi for tire pressure. And can you argue that you can't set 0 tire pressure on your real car? Sure you can. It would be stupid and the car would drive like crap, but it is realistic. Try it in LFS... I think you will find the car drives like crap.
Hallen
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I'm sorry, but making a racing physics "Engine" out of existing code is not that simple. Just for Scawen to produce something with a reasonable SDK and API would probably be a pretty monstrous task.

Software is ultimately malleable, and so the perception is you can unplug something, plug it into a different product, and POOF, you have cool new functionality. It is rarely that easy and usually takes a lot of pre-planning to be able to use code in that way. There are lots of simple seeming things that take a huge effort to code, and lots of seemingly complex things that are very easy to code. Software development is a contradiction in logic at times and is horribly complex.

So, in a nutshell, if you want LFS to move forward, you better hope that they don't want to sell the "engine" because it would take a lot of work just to prepare it for sale.
Hallen
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Quote from SamH :It's inherent in all permutations of British society. I think it's a side-effect of being overtaxed.

:chairfall :ices_rofl
Hallen
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The big mess in pool 3 did me damage and made it very difficult the rest of the race, but at least I was able to finish. I had to keep the wheel turned about 30° the whole way and I could not take turns 1 and 2 at full speed because the rear would just step out every time.

There was a small mistake made by the driver in front of me going onto the front straight, he spun, I had to get on the brakes, I tapped him, but we were OK.

Then two cars dove inside of us to get by, good moves on both their parts, but the one trailing, bumped the car in front and they both spun.

The one in back spun into me as I was recovering, sent me into the wall.

Now there were 4 cars all sideways in the sweeper before the front straight. Cars coming around the hairpin had plenty of time to see as and slow down. Two cars didn't. I don't know why, but they both were very late to get on the brakes. They both plowed into the spun cars and a major wreck ensued. Too bad, it ruined the race for one of them and made the race much worse for me. I am not sure why neither of them slowed until too late. There was no way to get through that mess at speed. I am not sure if the Yellow flag had come up for them, but it should have.

Overall, it was a challenging race and I was pretty happy to just finish the thing. I am looking forward to the LX4 for the next race

As far as getting points even if you don't "finish" the race, this does happen in the real world. There is usually some rule about being "classified". In ALMS for example, if you finish more than 70% of the race distance, and you finish in a position to get points, then you get the points even if you wreck. Now, these are always timed races, but I think the principle holds.
Hallen
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Americans get sarcasm. There are people who live in America who don't get it. Just because America exports all kinds of drivel in the form of movies, tv, and pop culture, does not mean that you can generalize anything about an American from that. Well, you can, and it can be funny, but it won't be reality.
And how many of those actors on Friends do you really think came from New York in the first place, hmmmm?

So if you want to have an argument, pay your money and you can argue;
No you can't
Yes I can
No it can't be done
This is not an argument
Yes it is
No it isn't
Yes it is
This is not an argument, it's a contradiction
No it isn't...
Hallen
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Quote from AndroidXP :Look Funnybear, they like you. I think their reaction of imitating you is an act of kindness. But I'm not sure, I haven't studied them enough yet.

:rolleyes:

To study us, is to become us... so you better be careful illepall

And I do like Funnybear, or I wouldn't have posted what I did.
Hallen
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Damn Ant, you must have really been flying when that happend. Good thing Ants have strong legs

I wonder if Scawen ever knew that his damage model would do that?
Hallen
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He's Welsh, just smile and wave
Hallen
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Watch some of these videos and then see what you think. I still think it was a racing incedent. Sure, the overlap was not there and it was probably an overly optomistic move, but we don't see everything from the view we had. Anyway, it is just my opinion, but after watching some of the videos on this site, I realize that these drivers can see so much more than we can on the video, that their situational awareness is much higher than what we have available.
Anyway, the videos on this site are outstanding to watch...

http://supervroum.noalia.net/chameau/spy/
Hallen
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It was a racing incident caused by both drivers. The white car made an overly optimistic move. The blue car took a way different line on that lap than on previous laps. He had scrubbed off a lot more speed than he was normally carrying through that corner. (This may have led the white car to dive in because he would not have been able to avoid hitting the blue car... maybe). I guess you could also ask which car took the racing line, and which didn't?

The blue car was obviously way loose and having trouble hanging on to the car. The white car was much more in control. I think the blue car was overly optimistic about keeping the car on the track, let alone staying in front of the white car.

The reason the passes did not carry is these cars have exactly the same power and it is very difficult to get a good run without drafting help. Watch some other Cat 7 videos, and they use bump drafting heavily to make passes.
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