What is "480 hores?" SPELL CHECK YOUR WORK!
And by the way, I'll be seeing and sitting in one before you ever see one on the street.
And by the way, I'll be seeing and sitting in one before you ever see one on the street.
Agreed.
I wouldn't say retarded, but sometimes good intentions can unintentionally block logic.
I cropped the pole, since it was titled about 20 degrees.
Camera is a Nikon D50, Used a Nikor 55-200mm with circular polarizer; I usually touch up photos using PS, but this came straight out of the camera. Well, I did crop it, which I hate doing, as I think crops should be done at the point the photo was taken.
It probably also helped I cleaned the mirror and sensor the night before.
Pretty nice! It seems to have a good depth of field.
On of my more better pics lately, I am sure this will send about 85% of this forum into fits of anger.
GOOD.
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Inaccuracies in Albert Gores movie.
A judge in the United Kingdom has deemed that there are eleven mistakes in Albert Gore's movie An Inconvenient Truth. Such as:
* The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence global warming. The Government’s expert was forced to concede that this is not correct.
* The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years.
* The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The Government’s expert had to accept that it was “not possible” to attribute one-off events to global warming.
* The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this was caused by global warming. The Government’s expert had to accept that this was not the case.
* The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore had misread the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a particularly violent storm.
* The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant’s evidence was that this was a scientific impossibility.
* The film blames global warming for species losses including coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim.
* The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for millennia.
* The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.
* The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m causing the displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea levels are expected to rise by about 40cm over the next hundred years and that there is no such threat of massive migration.
* The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the evacuation of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a false claim.
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* The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence global warming. The Government’s expert was forced to concede that this is not correct.
* The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that rising CO2 causes temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court found that the film was misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature rises by 800-2000 years.
* The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests that this has been caused by global warming. The Government’s expert had to accept that it was “not possible” to attribute one-off events to global warming.
* The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this was caused by global warming. The Government’s expert had to accept that this was not the case.
* The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned due to disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore had misread the study: in fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a particularly violent storm.
* The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf Stream throwing Europe into an ice age: the Claimant’s evidence was that this was a scientific impossibility.
* The film blames global warming for species losses including coral reef bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim.
* The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for millennia.
* The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence was that it is in fact increasing.
* The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m causing the displacement of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea levels are expected to rise by about 40cm over the next hundred years and that there is no such threat of massive migration.
* The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the evacuation of certain Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable to substantiate this and the Court observed that this appears to be a false claim.
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Has racing changed? Take a look at the last time I was on.
I only listen to what technoviking commands me to listen to, or GTFO!!!
Thank you. I have a Nikon D50, using a 55-200mm lens with a circular polarizer.
2007 Subaru WRX. And it was terrifying, even with all wheel drive The roads have no mercy at speeds greater than 60 MPH. None of them.
Photo tour: Elkhart Lake road circuit 1950-1952.
In 2006, The Wisconsin State Historical Society deemed that County Roads J, A, and P in and around the village of Elkhart Lake be listed on the National historical register, forever preserving them. This means thay can be maintained as they are from 2006, but never radically altered.
If you are in this area (between Milwaukee and Green Bay) and a race car fan, be sure to retrace the route, and see what a wild and dangerous time this was in the history of American motorsports. From Wikipedia:
I will now let the pictures do the talking.
This was out in a very flat area, with a farmhouse across from the sign. A farmer yelled over to me that he watched this 1950 race from that farmhouse, when he was seven years old. Neat!
Sign says it all. A very sharp turn that leads up a hill (blind at the top, mind you) and through some undulating medium and high speed corners, like a rollercoaster ride.
Another 90 degree turn to the right, that would go up a short steep hill to...
I tried to go full out on this road, and it was absolutely terrifying, see the next picture.
It is not the curves, but the dips! Imagine a race car doing this, this may be why the next corner was named...
Uh, yeah. :blink:
The curve described in the last picture. The picture does no justice to how fast this road drops, climbs up another steep hill, and then a straight with more dips.
After going balls out for a half mile, you slam on the brakes for a fast, short downhill to this turn. In a sense, this is a lot like turn 5 at Road America, but reversed. After this is a long straight to the 1950 start finish line, and so concludes the 1950 course. Onto the 1951-52 course.
This is next to the village's feed mill. The '51-'52 course included the Marsh Turn and the 1950 start/finish. From this point, the drivers turn slight right onto Lake Street, towards the lakes resorts.
This is right next to Siebkens resort, and from here, they drove close to the lake, past the Campers Inn (now the....sigh...Osthoff Resort*) and on to...
*The Osthoff Resort eliminated about a half mile of the original race circuit, but since it was done in 1995, nothing could be done about it. It forever changed the character of the village, and to this day is a source of anger and frustration for many people.
Wackers Wend. In a sense, Freddy junior changed road racing forever. In 1952, a person received a broken leg and several others were injured when a race car plowed into spectators at the Elkhart Lake Circuit. In September 1952 at Watkins Glen, New York, Fred Wacker accidentally drove into a crowd of spectators, killing a seven year old boy. Should he be vilified for this? No. It was an accident, a mix of too much speed and a poor location for spectators.
Being that the only barriers were hay bales, snow fences and flags, this was bound to happen sooner or later. But with a tragedy, comes a blessing, and Road America was opened in 1955, closely emulating the original road circuit, being that it also has hard 90 degree corners and rolling hills.
Fun turn to drive on, it curves and goes down a steep hill, daring you to go faster.
Another straight.
A sharp turn back onto P.
A very gentle right hand turn leads up this marker. After this it is a fast left, right left going uphill towards the 1950 start finish, past the Marsh turn, and into town tothe start finish.
Take the time to read this, it is very interesting. I do hope you enjoyed the tour. Make sure to make the pilgrimage, it is well worth it!
After tearing around the original road course, no tour is complete without a stop at the Stop Inn, aka the infamous Siebkens Bar. They are open everyday at around 5 pm.
Not too many people refer to it as Siebkens Stop Inn, maybe because it is just a bit hokey.
The infamous front door, who knows how many famous race drivers and celebrities pass through it.
Looking toward the back of the bar when you step into the area. Note all the decals and flags left by individuals, race teams or race drivers.
Looking towards the front bar. The front door is near the right side ceiling fan.
Inside view of the front door.
The side door, where I suppose hotel guests can enter, or as with all bars, a good way to escape! If you exit and take a left, I stayed in the Elm Park Hotel, the same one where Paul Newman stays in, room 38 and 38A. Sadly, they are tearing down the Lakeview Hotel and the Elm Park Hotel to make way for condos...but the bar and main building will remain. I was glad to experience a bit of motorsports history, as the room I was in housed many a famous driver.
There is also a print you can buy depicting famous drivers at the bar from Racing Pilot.
If you are in this area (between Milwaukee and Green Bay) and a race car fan, be sure to retrace the route, and see what a wild and dangerous time this was in the history of American motorsports. From Wikipedia:
I will now let the pictures do the talking.
This was out in a very flat area, with a farmhouse across from the sign. A farmer yelled over to me that he watched this 1950 race from that farmhouse, when he was seven years old. Neat!
Sign says it all. A very sharp turn that leads up a hill (blind at the top, mind you) and through some undulating medium and high speed corners, like a rollercoaster ride.
Another 90 degree turn to the right, that would go up a short steep hill to...
I tried to go full out on this road, and it was absolutely terrifying, see the next picture.
It is not the curves, but the dips! Imagine a race car doing this, this may be why the next corner was named...
Uh, yeah. :blink:
The curve described in the last picture. The picture does no justice to how fast this road drops, climbs up another steep hill, and then a straight with more dips.
After going balls out for a half mile, you slam on the brakes for a fast, short downhill to this turn. In a sense, this is a lot like turn 5 at Road America, but reversed. After this is a long straight to the 1950 start finish line, and so concludes the 1950 course. Onto the 1951-52 course.
This is next to the village's feed mill. The '51-'52 course included the Marsh Turn and the 1950 start/finish. From this point, the drivers turn slight right onto Lake Street, towards the lakes resorts.
This is right next to Siebkens resort, and from here, they drove close to the lake, past the Campers Inn (now the....sigh...Osthoff Resort*) and on to...
*The Osthoff Resort eliminated about a half mile of the original race circuit, but since it was done in 1995, nothing could be done about it. It forever changed the character of the village, and to this day is a source of anger and frustration for many people.
Wackers Wend. In a sense, Freddy junior changed road racing forever. In 1952, a person received a broken leg and several others were injured when a race car plowed into spectators at the Elkhart Lake Circuit. In September 1952 at Watkins Glen, New York, Fred Wacker accidentally drove into a crowd of spectators, killing a seven year old boy. Should he be vilified for this? No. It was an accident, a mix of too much speed and a poor location for spectators.
Being that the only barriers were hay bales, snow fences and flags, this was bound to happen sooner or later. But with a tragedy, comes a blessing, and Road America was opened in 1955, closely emulating the original road circuit, being that it also has hard 90 degree corners and rolling hills.
Fun turn to drive on, it curves and goes down a steep hill, daring you to go faster.
Another straight.
A sharp turn back onto P.
A very gentle right hand turn leads up this marker. After this it is a fast left, right left going uphill towards the 1950 start finish, past the Marsh turn, and into town tothe start finish.
Take the time to read this, it is very interesting. I do hope you enjoyed the tour. Make sure to make the pilgrimage, it is well worth it!
After tearing around the original road course, no tour is complete without a stop at the Stop Inn, aka the infamous Siebkens Bar. They are open everyday at around 5 pm.
Not too many people refer to it as Siebkens Stop Inn, maybe because it is just a bit hokey.
The infamous front door, who knows how many famous race drivers and celebrities pass through it.
Looking toward the back of the bar when you step into the area. Note all the decals and flags left by individuals, race teams or race drivers.
Looking towards the front bar. The front door is near the right side ceiling fan.
Inside view of the front door.
The side door, where I suppose hotel guests can enter, or as with all bars, a good way to escape! If you exit and take a left, I stayed in the Elm Park Hotel, the same one where Paul Newman stays in, room 38 and 38A. Sadly, they are tearing down the Lakeview Hotel and the Elm Park Hotel to make way for condos...but the bar and main building will remain. I was glad to experience a bit of motorsports history, as the room I was in housed many a famous driver.
There is also a print you can buy depicting famous drivers at the bar from Racing Pilot.
I cannot believe that YOU believed that this load of tripe was accurate, even I know that The Sun is full of it.
Aaaaaahahahahahaa...see, I, unlike you, live in the United States. I also do not have a selective memory, and I, unlike you, remember hurricane Andrew.
Funny, that two years after it, the areas were for the most part rebuilt, the residents moved back in. Why oh why, has this not happened in NOLA? Well, lets get down to it:
Firstly, the city and the state are run by crooks. Period. It has been that way in Louisiana for decades, and in New Orleans for centuries. Accept it, swallow this fact and deal with it. Let's move on.
Secondly, the federal government has no role in individual state concerns, they can help but only when asked by the governor of that particular state.
when asked by the governor of that particular state.
when asked by the governor of that particular state.
when asked by the governor of that particular state.
when asked by the governor of that particular state.
when asked by the governor of that particular state.
when asked by the governor of that particular state.
when asked by the governor of that particular state.
when asked by the governor of that particular state.
Have I made my point clear? The hurricane hit on Sunday. By Thursday, National Guard units were in the city. That in itself is amazing, as no government entity should by all practical means move that fast. A national guard unit from, let's say, Arkansas cannot cross into Louisiana without permission of that governor. And what did she do? Waited. And waited. And waited....
All blame lies with the Mayor and the governor, and the administration of the governor. Period! And the federal government has been giving heaps of money to this city way before this happened...who do you blame now?
Thirdly, the residents just don't give a shit. and even made worse after three decades of state run slavery, er...I mean welfare. And there you have it: three decades of corrupt socialism, and you saw the end result. Three decades of dependence on the government This would not of happened in 1969, when NOLA was underwater for weeks, or in 1930, when people lived for months on the levees with their livestock. Think I am making that up? When Led Zeppelin ripped off Robert Johnson's "when the levee breaks" you think he was talking about something else?
Have you also forgotten that the state of Mississippi was hit far worse than Louisiana? Yet, the media just ignores them. Why? Because instead of whining, they got on with rebuilding their lives and property.
No wonder I avoid this section of the forum now...I have never met such sanctimonious computer chair analysts as you lot. Boy, are Americans dumb! Thank goodness I can be preached to by someone whom has never once set foot on our soil. May I now lick your boots? How about I instead pick apart everything in your country? I can find plenty, and every country has their skeletons in the closet, too.
I swear Hankstar, you swallow every liberal, socialist piece of tripe you can find, and spew it all over this section. You are as bad as the conservatives in my country actually believing everything Rush Limbaugh, Shawn Hannity or Ann Coulter says. You are no different, just another political lemming without an opinion except what is fed to them.
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I would expect the servers to be less crowded now that school has started for quite a few players.
Dogs have a master.
Cats have employees and servants.
Cats have employees and servants.
Poor kid... 
was probably terrified in front of the camera.
was probably terrified in front of the camera.Disgusting as it is, goats milk is probably the best.
I am sure that it works great for that area, but not everyone want to either live in a large city where public transportation has it's merits. And I actually had to reread your first sentence, stunned as I am that anyone could think anything implemented by the government is praiseworthy.
Again, not everyone works in a central location; public transportation only goes so far, and even in my gas guzzling WRX, I can drive 2 weeks before I fill it up, my commute being 22 miles round trip.
Hardly. If everyone rode on public transportation, the consumption of fuel would probably equal itself out. Plus, you have to be transported by the buses schedule, not your own, thus negating your personal freedoms and putting the government in control of your life.
Thank you for that comment, as I believe that reliance on government is a form of slavery. Over the past century, personal vehicles have made humans live longer, richer, and live on their terms, and giving us more freedoms than any society in the past 5,000 years. How can you argue against that?
Give me a break. What is good for you isn't always good for the rest of us. Humans are a not a product of a factory, each person is uniquely different, and so it goes with wisdom teeth. And by the way, both my parents have their wisdom teeth, and never had any pain, so throw that idea out of the window.
I got rid of mine after living with with absolute pain for five months, because 3 were coming in at an angle that was pushing against my teeth, and one was impacted. Oh, and the one that already came through had a cavity.
Dont be a fool, please reconsider what you post on this subject.
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Reason : remembered something pertinent.
I had all four yanked out at the same time, the pain persisted for around a week, the first two days are the worst. Youre back to eating normal in at the most ten days. Unless you have what is called a "dry socket". And you will know, because it will feel like satan itself is stabbing you in that area. I had one. It...really sucked.
And I only took Tylenol for the pain!
And I only took Tylenol for the pain!
I have a slightly deep to tenor voice, with a Midwestern accent (no accent), with a bit of a yooper* twang. Cant help it if you are from Wisconsin, like me.
*The term "yooper" is what some call people who live in the Michigan Peninsula, aka Upper Peninsula, aka a "U-per". The accent is a blend of Canadian and Scandinavian, kind of like how people in the movie "Fargo" talked like, that "yaaah hey der, dont cha know hey" accent.
*The term "yooper" is what some call people who live in the Michigan Peninsula, aka Upper Peninsula, aka a "U-per". The accent is a blend of Canadian and Scandinavian, kind of like how people in the movie "Fargo" talked like, that "yaaah hey der, dont cha know hey" accent.
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