Quote from XGremlinX_pt :

The first time i saw that picture, maybe 2 years ago, I was a little scared like "omg, these were the ones that made the game I love?"

Gremlin, what the hell did you expect them to look like?

These guys, perhaps?

Great summary, AJP.

I was within a hair's breadth of signing up to be a First beta-tester but the legal battle over mods put me off, to say the least.

Is there anyone here who will admit to doing beta-testing for First? I have to admit I am still very curious to see how Kaemmer's work will turn out, and I have a lot of respect for his programming if not for his diplomacy.

So, has anyone driven the iRacing sim that's under development? Want to give us your impressions? Or would that get lawyers raining down on us? If so, then please feel free to keep quiet, I have no desire to get Scavier into trouble.

Quote from Vykos69 :

What RSC-peeps dont like is the much much younger audience, LFS has.

Is this true? Does LFS really have a younger user-base than rFactor or GTR or games like that? Not disagreeing with you, I just don't know. And I always had the impression that age groups were about the same across these sims.

I could believe that LFS has a younger demographic than GPL though.

Quote from george_tsiros :

It is not pleasing in the eye... i do not know how to explain it, it doesn't "feel" right. Oh well. At least i know i should not try competing professionaly 'cause i'd never win, it seems :/

George, I'm sure that by the time S3 comes around, with a proper damage model, your style will be the optimal one. So hang in there!

If you're actually in spectate mode, I think it's already the case that you can't vote for a restart. Don't you need to be in a car?

(Not that this would solve the problem. I agree that a 100% unanimous vote from all cars on the lead lap would be a great condition for restarts. I get tired of these whining babies. )

Yes, I agree that RSC is not always the happiest place in the world, but I'll always be grateful that it existed or I might not have drifted (if you'll excuse the expression ) over from NR2003 and GPL to the world of LFS.

Generic, if you want to see what combos people are using, go to the LFS world web site and look up the online stats for a few randomly chosen users. You can choose between looking at people's personal best times (online) on each track, or the number of laps they have done on each track/car combo. I think my data shows a lot of time at AS Club in the FOX for example. Browsing a few different profiles should let you see where the action is. I think a lot of people are either open-wheeler people (FOX, FO8, BF1) or GTR people.

And I forgot to say: welcome and have fun.

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Todd, after posts that like that I really wish you had been my driving instructor. Great stuff, and thanks.

Duke, I am guessing that the 26 million pound bond or whatever it is probably keeps the joke F1 applications to a bare minimum.

(Although Super Aguri seem to be determined to get to their punchline ).

On the general topic of turning sim racing into a professional sport, I don't know what to think about that. To the OP: have you ever played online poker? If not, you should try it. Look at some of the abuse and bad feeling that gets generated by even quite small amounts of money changing hands. If you put the monetary aspect into a sim-racing environment, I think you cannot even begin to imagine the fragfest that would result.

Quote from sgt.flippy :

Yup, it had a lot more feeling to it than it does now.

OK, so this is basically, "Scavier: I liked their early albums", right?

Quote from duke_toaster :

Yes, +1 for a clone of Nardo or Millbrook

+1.

What a great idea -- if you had about 50 configurations of Millbrook you possibly wouldn't even need any other tracks.

No, sorry, it's not a proverb. More of a childhood memory really.

Quote from zeugnimod :

I was just asking, because I havent read confirmation of the devs on this anywhere.

Sorry, Zeugnimod, I guess I was unclear. I was trying to express agreement with you: people who say that post-S3 there will be modding are guilty of wishful thinking to the point of being deceptive.

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There are only several people here, who assume, that this will happen, and somehow now, everybody believes, that this is true.

Exactly.

Have a cup of tea, Funnybear. The nice men will be here soon.

Quote from 510N3D :

i hope you dont mind that i like both :haha:

What are you, some kind of freak?

Prize for worst documented game ever! And let's not talk about my PB even when I did finally figure out how to play.

Quote from zeugnimod :

Where did you get that information from?

I think this is a bit like telling the babysitter that Mom said you could have a whiskey if you were good.

Quote from joen :

How many people that want to have a really long track in LFS play FE Black or AS GT on a regular basis?

This is a really excellent point. If we all want the Ring so badly, why aren't the servers full of FE Black and KY GP Long, the nearest equivalents?

From GPL and various NR2003 mods, I always had a love-hate relationship with the Ring, but if I am honest, my most satisfying racing and indeed my most "in the zone" laps always came on shorter tracks. Really learning the Ring is a lifetime's work,I think, and we all waste far too much time in LFS already.

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Quote from Funnybear :

We dreamed of ABS in those days. The only brakes we had was to throw the mother in law out and hoped she snagged a tree on the way past.

A mother in law? You were lucky. We had to stop our car by crashing repeatedly into a brick wall two hours before we started the journey.

And you try telling that to young people today...

Quote from ShannonN :

saved me on wet roads at traffic lights from running up the backside of dumb car that wanted to stop dead on a yellow light etc at up to 60 klms

Ah, Shannon, I would love to hear the other guy's side of this particular story, mate.

Woah, Joen. That Volvo picture is going to give nightmares to any motorcyclist who reads this.

Quote from ayrton senna 87 :

i hate it when people just SMASH into the side of u flat out from miles back in a braking zone, and take themselfs out too. surely its a race?

I'm shocked, Dendy. You seem like the last guy who should get mad at this sort of thing.

Quote from 510N3D :

That discussion will def never come to a end and im sorry when i hopped into this conversation with only this bad point but its making me sick

No problem. You know how it is: some people like chocolate, some people like strawberry. You guys must be enjoying those oval races or you wouldn't do it so much, so more power to you.

Quote from 510N3D :

Yupp we are all stupid people with a only left turnable steering wheels...

I don't know about that, but at least one of you is lacking a sense of humour.

Adding my two cents worth very late but I just wanted to say thanks to all those who helped come up with this idea -- what a great plan. LFS offers so much variety and not many people seem keen to exploit that.

I had the first of many cans of whoop-ass opened on me when I joined the odd combo server the other night for some FE Rally X action. I will be back for more punishment soon, I promise.