every winner gotta deal with backmarkers its part of racing, its one thing being in the lead pack but can you deal with the backmarkers as good as the guys your fighting for position? if you can nail those backmarkers a bit quicker than the guy infront or behind you, youll gain on em. racing has a lot of this in it. most notable is in formula 1 where you often have to watch how P1 gets passed the backmarkers.

you gotta accept that a backmarker will add time onto your laps but how much is all up to you.

Quote from KeiichiRX7 :

The layouts are saved separately for each configuration, so you's have to lay all your marshals or cones separately for each configuration of a course.

And the rant.... Well, it bothers me when people complain for someone else to do what they could do themselves. That doesnt mean you shouldnt get help with things you simply don't understand, but the AutoX editor was staring everyone in the face.

totally not meant to be a moan ... just an area i thought could be improved thats all. i mean loading a layout is going to cost resources and frame rate and then i thought about the repetitive graphics going down the pits...

the tyre marks thing was just an "alternative" cos i was trying to think of what could be done i mean its just a discussion no way mean to be a negative one at all

i didnt think of the auto x layout i dunno if others did but yes that is a very good point indeed. just the white arrows on a layout might not hog resources and will do the job just fine!!

sorry if it annoyed you!

yeah that picture looks sweet. if there stuff is already there in game then its hopefully easier than first thought! cool stuff!

but im not quite sure what this means?

Quote from KeiichiRX7 :

Would it kill anybody to use the options already available to them?

The attatched image has 3 possible solutions.

I'm sure soemthing will be done in the future, but cmon, a little pro-activeness never really hurt anybody

what options are already availble to use?

whats the rant for?

ok so my paint sk33lz arnt quite up to scratch but y'know. you get my drift? (no pun intended )

well it officially used my LFS license name. And I would not have known about the option had it not been in the general section because I dont go to the league sub forum.

Just my 2 pence.

heres the other idea.

i dont know how this is able to be implemented if at all. but if you could have it so the marks in the pits dynamically change with the direction of the racing so you would sort of know where to go without having big arrows or a pit crew there?

do pits even have marks like that in real life heh

man STCC rock! i didnt hear about it here either.

I refreshed my server list and it showed it there and im like "hmm new and bronze whats this about" i go there, and im hooked.

I didnt join a league. I didnt sign up to race anything or have any need to visit the league section for now.

But i got my cool userbar!

Quote from Hyperactive :

I see it more of a big thing. If the car is so badly bent it should be even be drivable at that stage. And the strangely bent cars are more of a side effect of not having bumpers and wings that could come off

yeah but i like to think we can say that cars get disabled in heavy impacts because well even though it isnt meant to be like that it does happen in the extreme. its a good selling point sort of in a weird optimistic way.

http://www.memtest.org/

get this and run it on your memory and look for any errors this may help you.

Also have you tried downloading an alternative file and reinstalling LFS as maybe something got corrupt in the download. just a thought.

Last edited by richy, Fri 19 Jan 2007, 02:46.

bwahahah

good article man.

can I just add a bit. body damage can affect your cars performance. in some cars, you can get damage that is warped enough to lift the car off of the road surface and so during braking your bodywork will rub on the road and make braking very dangerous. it will also make you spin your wheels and all sorts of trouble including a disabled car.

Heres a pic of joining an empty server.

You can sort of wiggle as you exit the pits to get the "wrong way" message up...

I just thought it would be nice to have some sort of foolproofing...

especially if say, a race is going on with pit required and someone joins and pulls out the wrong way.

I figure instead of having a big arrow splashed up on the screen to integrate some sort of graphical feature to the pits to hint which way the flow of traffic is going.

maybe if we could get those pit crews in there then there could be a guy there with a sign on it

Last edited by richy, Thu 18 Jan 2007, 19:45.

Hello all. Ive always had this thing where I pull out of the garage and I end up going up the pits the wrong way, have to slam it in reverse then turn around and head the correct way...

does anyone else experience this or am I just being careless. I was wonder if there was some way to indicate the direction of traffic as you exit the garage?

Is this even a needed suggestion, I was figuring we could incorporate something in the pits that could indicate this. The best thing I sort of came up with would be having a slight tyre marks leaving the garages either left or right depending on the direction of the track.

Does that even make sense or is this even a thing to bother about?

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=17767

heres my thread where I discovered some things wrong with my system. It appears by your everest that this is none of this really applies to you but its a good reference I suppose.

I would suggest running everest while you play live for speed then alt tab and check out what the temps are saying. Temps while idle are lower then when its under strain.

Check out the running processes by pressing ctrl - alt - del and then click the processes tab then google them to find out exactly what they are. This is an awesome peice of software for this, http://www.snapfiles.com/get/processexplorer.html great tool. alternatively run msconfig from start menu.

Another thing is checking for Viruses / Malware / Spyware.

Defrag your hard disk and do a disk cleanup too.

hahaha quality stuff. you should get a stunt team together. now all you need is some bikes that you can hang off and do some stoppies!!!



looks quite realistic you know. i guess the speeds might be a bit extreme but from when ive seen cars doing that 2 wheel thing, looks quite similar. maybe a bit too stable? possibly because its a computer game.

Rar what a thread.

/me gets the popcorn!

personally i am a heavy user of inferno setups. I havent the time nor patience to actually set my own setups.

i dont get the WR's with them, and im pretty sure I could go faster if I did put in the time researching and making a setup like the others guys do. like tristan says you need to drive the setup just like the guy who made it so you need to find their WR replay too! then play copy cat! yes I guess that makes me a shit driver or someone who isnt the best but I just want to have close bumper to bumper racing there and then. im not trying to be competetive, I just want to be able to keep up with the pack.

However, in regards to the OP's suggestion of making inferno sets available in-game:

I think it works well as it stands, inferno is a 3rd party resource, but still if you integrated it into the game youll just have a different 3rd party resource show up because all the inferno sets would be standard.

Thank ye STCC for this, and thank ye for the awesome servers.

lub me XFR.

bonnet vent. rear wing not too big, front spoiler low on the road. sweet wheels and tyres. looks awesome while racing and is a bag of fun to drive. Yeah thats my choice always has been always will be.

oh yeah forgot about this,

it might need to wait until the future when we have a better damage model, then we can incorporate overheating say if it gets stuck in a vent or it could jam the suspension or something along those lines.

for now i just think its there as a deterent to cutting the grass i guess.

i get nervious the rare opportunities that i ever get out in first place.

sometimes i swear lfs has a option somewhere to make first places car more sketchy. ketchup mode or something.

Quote from LFSn00b :

8 Naturists... Hmm...

i hate clothes!

Quote from Davo :

That monitor is pretty good, it's got DVI-D which is sweet. For better image quality use the DVI-D connection, it's a weird plug, bigger than the analog and usually white in colour compared to the older analog blue plugs.

Not sure on your USB problem.

yeah i have it running through the DVI-D port already. because i got my computer as a bundle im paranoid that they cheaped out in areas which might be limiting me now.

Quote from richy :

Third is an easy one
Would I be better off using 1024x768 res with 85hz refresh rate on my monitor, or is that only worth it with vsync. I get that tearing thing sometimes in some games. why would I get tearing is my viewsonic vp191s monitor too poor for my system? I usually run 1280x1024 at 75hz I dont know if I would see any visual difference changing it to 85hz.

Fourth is my overheating thing a bit more continued

I went into my nvidia control panel and put a lot of the options up so it bumped the graphics up a lot to higher quality but after about 10 mins of playing the fans kicked in and it slowed down a bit and I checked the temp and the GPU was at 50C and the processor seemed to have crept up to 70C again. maybe i need to clean harder. Maybe I just pushed my system as hard as it could go. It still had good FPS but it just felt slower to the demon ive been used to the last couple of days.

Sensor Properties
Sensor Type Winbond W83627THF (ISA 290h)
GPU Sensor Type Maxim MAX6646 (NV-I2C 4Ch)
Motherboard Name MSI MS-7058

Temperatures
Motherboard 40 °C (104 °F)
CPU 50 °C (122 °F)
GPU 37 °C (99 °F)
GPU Ambient 35 °C (95 °F)
WDC WD2000JD-00HBC0 35 °C (95 °F)
WDC WD2000JD-00HBC0 31 °C (88 °F)

Cooling Fans
CPU 1096 RPM

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.36 V
+3.3 V 3.30 V
+5 V 5.00 V
+12 V 11.67 V
+5 V Standby 5.06 V
VBAT Battery 3.09 V
Debug Info F FF 9A FF
Debug Info T 40 50 233
Debug Info V 8A 6C CE BA C0 5A 10 (03)

The two sensors I have in my system feels limited, id like to get more sensors somehow, is there a card i can get that will do this or is that all down to what motherboard ive got? Is there a way to find out the rpm of my GPU fan? How do you rate PCI fan cards? I want a heavy duty fan I dont want one that glows in the dark but one that is really quiet but powerful at the same time.

Fith is still my BIOS settings still continued
Just remembered this, I havent really looked into the options much I will google this stuff in a bit and get back to you with some stuff about that probably lol

Sixth is the reinstall of windows I keep talking about and not doing
My current windows install is on G: because i messed up the install first time around now ive moved most of the data I want to keep to my other hard drive C: which when I reinstall windows I plan to remove from the system, then once windows is reinstalled Ill reconnect it and hope the drive letter gets renamed, will this work?

I dont know which drivers to let windows install or which to use a driver disk or downloaded drivers that I can put on a CD. If I want my system to start clean, should I disconnect the hardware except 1 hard drive, then update the BIOS then install windows then connect stuff up after that? Ive got a recovery disk that I got with the computer too, which is sort of an XP pro disk except its got evesham on it. is this loaded with drivers for my windows to work with this hardware? is that installing the VIA drivers that are causing me hassle? Ill need this disk to load my SATA drivers right? When I format the disk do I format /mbr too or something? do i even need to do that these days?

Ill leave the memory as it is then unless anyone really thinks its worth doing.

Ok this is what im still left thinking about from before and i've got some new issues to worry about now.

Ok so my refresh rate doesnt matter because its an LCD screen. This is the specs of my monitor see fig23a. Its native res is 1280x1024 @ 75hz so this is what im using here, im thinking I should of taken more care in getting the screen too because I think I could of chosen better, maybe a CRT type but sadly im limited in space and a 19" crt wouldnt fit so viewing area matters a bit to me. The other things im looking at is the response time. Which is 8ms, it says grey to grey but i dont think that is going to be too precise. Is that ok for gaming these days? I cant say I visibly notice any ghosting im guessing thatll happen around 125fps or over, maybe this is related to my tearing sometimes without vsync. either that or its because i didnt have it in a native res, aaaanyway, Contrast ratio is 800:1 i dunno if thats ok but its bright enough. Dunno how to work out the diagonal dot pitch measurements... im guessing the monitor is good enough for my system for a while. So I can forget about that now and concentrate on the other bits.

I plugged in a USB flash drive and it clashed with the VIA chipset Im beginning to think this is my USB 2 controller or something, it says usb 2 on the floppy drive so i wonder if thats related to the chip on the mobo. Its a mystery but I dont have to boot up with the thumb drive in so its ok. as much as i want to avoid the bios update i think i might have to do it afterall. worth a try just for peach of mind.

Last edited by richy, Tue 16 Jan 2007, 01:10.

Quote from Jakg :

just fyi, i have an AMD 4000 (Nudging FX-57 speeds - comparable to a 4.7 GHz Intel) and a 7950GT, even when it's overclocked, with all my custon textures it runs at 100 fps with 4xAA and 16xAF, but at the starts it drops to 35! If you want an upgrade plan, WAIT, and get a Core 2 Duo and either a 8600 (which are coming out when the R600 comes out) or get a used 7xxx card

EDIT - GFX cards....

although Intel's want to be kept under 60, GFX cards are alright up to 85-90!

Also, MHz on graphics card are only useful to compare you 629xxz to another 692xxz, or allow you to see how much it's overclocked.

My old 9600XT ran at 500 MHz on the core, my newer 6600GT also ran at 500 MHz, and my new 7950GT only runs at 580 MHz

I'll give you a hint, each one is over double as powerful as the one before

My system needs to last me atleast another year yet with minimal cost. However I would like to get the best out of my processor and motherboard and graphics card, maybe at the cost of a ram upgrade. And if that little 333mhz think is a bottleneck for the whole systems fsb i could get a large upgrade for a cheap investment? Or am I not going to see a difference worthy of the money?

edit:

oh I see, the graphics processor talks to the memory on the card... bingo.

Last edited by richy, Sun 14 Jan 2007, 13:26. Reason : added more stuff