nice one , best of luck for the future.

the pings can be terrible with tin-can and string technology

I'm having the same issue but i'm hosting from home, ports are open/forwarded and everything looks fine, but still complains "host not found on master server"

it's how fast it handles the passing of information between users. the more users on track, the more CPU gets used to co-ordinate what's going on, In my (limited) experience, a slow box like a 2/300Mhz will run 1 server badly, a 500Mhz machine will run 1 to capacity (gets a little laggy but to be expected) and an 800Mhz machine will run 2 x 11 client servers to capacity.



you should be ok to run 2 servers since it's demo, and you'll only really find out what it's like when you try it.

BTW U/L speed is rarely as much as half D/L speed, i usually get about 1/3 U/D ratio.

hmm, not much to report, i still have occasional twitches and i've checked all connections and cleaned the optical bits, hmmm, i'm still sure what could cause this problem.

I'm having a bit of a go at making a setup, but i've seen some quick times, i'm just gonna drive a load and find out what works. i'm still well in the dark on strategy but i'm guessing at R3R2-1 for a safe bet, it's just a case of when.

Because i'm not really sure on weather I can sort a setup that doesen't wear big holes o you're rear tyres, I'm tempted to just bung some hardish ones on there, i might be able to get it to work, It's a front-end wear kinda course, but we'll see, i'm sure i'll come up with something interesting

One for ATC and one for SCCC!

might be fun to split the teams 50/50 to get a good mix, or is it gonna be based on speed?

I'm hitting 1.07s now, and should be getting 106's by the race, will prolly be my strongest race yet.

DFP, it's cheap £60-65 delivered (i managed to get mine for £61.50!) and has more buttons/features than any other wheel in this price bracket (i think:shrug, the pedals aren't quite as comfortable as the momo's but the brake does seem to give better feel.

one downside: the paddle shifters are crap, tiny little things that are moulded to the back of the wheel, not nice to change gear with but you're better off using the shifter anyways. (i use mine for indicators), the D-pad's pretty handy too for in-race adjustments, better than reaching for the keys.

it's a good wheel and about half the desk footprint of a momo so i'm pretty sure the DFP comes out on top IMHO.

Oh and GT4 is actually quite good fun with a wheel, the Group C cars are a blast round the 'ring (5.14 PB:razz, if you've got a PS2 then the DFP is definately for you.

i think it sould be UF1000 all the way, make it more of an endurance event

Looking forward to this one, although i've got a pretty dire setup ATM and this is another track i've never really raced on before, i'm putting bloody R4's on the back this time!

BTW I'm currently in the proccess of knocking up a server box, will be set for XFR - AS Club , 15-30 laps

will be called BudShovel GP practice, (when wine's stopped arguing with me!)

Last edited by Theafro, Wed 1 Mar 2006, 17:19.

Don't get a credit card, noooooooooooooo!

I've always found that the best thing to do once you've earned you're wings as a demo driver, to move up to the XFR (GTi-GTR) and get used to slick tyres, it's also a nice and fast but relatively forgiving car to learn the tracks with. after that, the sky's you're limit, don't forget to have a stab at drag racing, great for learning how to get a really fast start, and fun.

just try 'em all out, pick you're favorite car (but don't go straight for the F08illepall) and start learning the tracks, try racing mainly on 1 per week, it gives you a good chance to learn from others (and get their setups).

Above all, HAVE FUN

Quote from himself :

I am lookin forward to buying it asap.

I hope the physics patch will come soon also and devs will have time to make some small detalic changes, that dont need much time to implement but have effect on ingame-feeling.

Erm. i gotta disagree, remember that everything the dev's change has got to be tested and tested and tested, (it might need some testing too). and that takes time. aside from that, it's a pretty complicated engine and i should imagine that making one tiny change upsets the whole balance a bit. illepall

I'm no expert but i've been with LFS for 2 years and although it's a slow proccess, you'll learn to enjoy the updates, It was like christmas day when S2 came out, i stayed off work that day just to play it the moment it was released.

Don't worry too much about the licence thing, just make sure you buy one when you can afford one,

I knew they'd taken my Neons request seriously, i bet that'll take ages to sort out all the different colours.

Ooh, and what about bigger exhausts, i don't think any of the cars are fast enough, they obviously need bigger 'zausts.

Keep up the good works boys, you'll get a contract with EA eventually.

Am I? ok i might.

that last one was pretty fun! shame i had to take my 205,

The mushroom chocolate was nice tho'!

Last edited by Theafro, Wed 1 Mar 2006, 01:39.

suffolk, bah!

they're all a bit weird down there.illepall

but i suppose not quite as weird as some norfolkers.


you'd all be welcome for a meet tho'! we should organize this proper like.

well, we could hire out a village hall or something, would only cost about £40 for a whole day, split that between the lot of us and we've got a LAN party.

might be worth starting a thread about this, get the attention of the other locals, i'm starting to like the idea of an anglian LFS meet, and we'll get the chance to slap tristan about a bit with a trout

Quote from thisnameistaken :

My auntie Olive lived in Norfolk and she went mad.

It just takes time.....

i like the idea of a day out down @ trax, but there's a pretty good kart track near cromer thats freindly and cheap (absolutely mental in the wet after dark, like last time i went ).

and the snett is always holding testing/track days, might be fun to share a car or two and go for a blast,

you knows it

LOL, I saw this post and thought, bah, another noob making a useless post!

Erm, turns out it's BSR.Jarmin!

BTW i'm fixing the shoutbox on the website, debugging html/perl is NOT my forte

it's open to anybody, but it's not quite working yet, i think, i need to figure out how to get the posts to actually show up once you've entered them, i'm confused but getting there .

feel free to drop by to abuse the budshovel team, the url is:- http://word.budshovel.co.uk/

I look Baaaaaaad when you look in detail, except for 3rd highest climber

Quote from XCNuse :

i find it slightly odd that distance is measured in miles........ but gas is measured in.. liters
..hmm

Don't you yanks have funny gallons anyhow? (0.8327 of a REAL gallon:tilt

9709 Ml
6830.33 Ltr or 1502.11 (Imperial) gallons

6.46 Mp(real)g

Quote from Grivage :

The way i work it is this. for the first stop i woulda had the tyre value at 30 percent. for a third of the race it would change only the tyres which will not last to the end. Assuming as in this case it changes the lot the next one i would adjust it to 50 percent as this applies the same principle but only since the last tyre change. Not fool proof by any means as it assumes consistent driving etc etc but to date hasnt let me down yet.

Hope this is all clear

Unfortunately this dosen't quite work, i'm damn sure that LFS takes an average rather than reading the lowest part , what you describe was exactly what i had done, but LFS didn't seem to pick up the flatspots, increasing front bias is problematic too, you'll loose the dynamic balance required for some corners (the ones with awkward/curvy braking zones) and it seems that the only way to go is to change all you're tyres, even if the rears look good for another stint, like i said before, tyre wear (especially on the rear) seems to increase exponentially as they wear/cool, thus making predicting wear a little hit & miss

Quote from AndroidXP :

I only have a bit experience from XFR racing but from what I know most people are turning way too much. They don't understeer extremely, but the same or even a slightly better radius could be archieved by much less steering.

Just try forcing yourself to steer less alltogether or alteast return the steering to lower angles after the initial impulse. If you're running a setup with locked or high diff, remember to use throttle AND brake while turning in, as this greatly reduces the initial push such a setup causes.

Definately, you've really got to avoid using too much lock, it makes the difference between lasting 5 laps and lasting 25, especially if it's a tight one with lots of braking/accelerating. Toe out can help, but it can give a slightly mushy feel to the front end.

BTW Replay url works now!

Last edited by Theafro, Mon 27 Feb 2006, 19:05.

Quote from Gentlefoot :

Afro - great race wasn't it. I was very surprised to see you still behind me after 30 odd laps. You were quick on those R4s man. I switched to R3s front!

I had a busy race! here's the .MPR :- http://theafro.budshovel.co.uk/

(BTW it might take a little while to update, you might just get a bad picture of me in the woods looking rough! damn easyspace!)

I had a similar problem on lap 39 (planning to stop on L40/42), although i'd set the 'change tyres if wear >' to 70% on the first stop, my rears didn't get changed. I assumed , that they would last at least until the next stop, but near the end of the next stint they blew . after reviewing the replay, (a long, long, long proccess) it seems the first one went under braking, and the second blew after i lost the back end, the tyres were thin on the inside edges and stone cold.

My theory is, as the weight drops off the rear end, as fuel is used. The rear brakes tend to lock up a bit more, and the wear gets exponentioally higher as they thin out and cool down, combine these two factors and you get a slightly unpredicatable wear rate. add in the fact that we were racing, and I'm pretty sure that's the reason.

My solution, More front brake bias and more rear tyre pressure. and maybee keep a better watch out for flatspots early on while they're a little more obvious.

And i'm pretty sure the tyre wear check in the pits takes an average reading rather than the lowest point. Might be one to watch out for in future.

BTW good effort gentlefoot, a tough race for most of us.


URL of replay to follow.....

Last edited by Theafro, Mon 27 Feb 2006, 15:59.