I have just tested XRR (with Rx/Drift setting) with autoclutch, and the clutch is engaged for a time really really quick, far quicker than for the FZR for example ... is that intentional ?

First of all thanks Eric, new Kyoto Ring looks magnificent!

"XR Autosport"banner have been changed, however from the screenshots that posted, I find the kanji on them still confusing.

They are:

• XR Autosport
  XRモーターカー スボーツ
  
  
• Advanced Motoring Group
  アドバンスド　モータードライビング　クラプ
  
  
• ENGEXX Turbo
  ターボ 工学
  
  
• Kyoto Suspension Systems
  懸濁液 競技場
  

So let's fix it~

XR Autosport
XRモーターカー スボーツ

XR is good, also sport.
But モーターカー usually means small railroad maintenance vehicle in Japan.
See me (Yellow one)

So what should Auto translate to?
オートor a word we familar with:自動車.

XR Autosport
XRオートスボーツ - XR otto supottsu

Advanced Motoring Group
アドバンスド　モータードライビング　クラプ

モータードライビング appears to mean "motor driving", but I can only see from a classic car driving tour. Could be モータリング.
クラプ means either club or, well...crap, depend on original word. Should be グループ.

Advanced Motoring Group
アドバンスド　モータリング　グループ - adobannsudo mottarinngu guruppu

ENGEXX Turbo
ターボ 工学

ターボ of course means turbo.
工学? Engineering. So what does "engineering turbo" means lol
So ENGEXX should be translated directly from the Japanese exonyms: エンゲックス

ENGEXX Turbo
エンゲックス ターボ - enngekkusu tabbo

Kyoto Suspension System
懸濁液 競技場

This should be the most funny one both in Japanese and Chinese(Japanese Kanji and Chinese HanZi are similar)
懸濁液 means Suspension liquid. 競技場 means stadium and I have no idea why it related to word "system"...
So all wrong. Correct one:サスペンション システム
As for Kyoto, It could be 京, or 京都 as a city name.

Kyoto Suspension System
京 サスペンション システム - kyoto sasupennsyonn shisutemu

As the "湖 京都 競技場" sticked at the starting light area of KY3 (0.6U/V), Lake, Kyoto, Stadium. And there are indeed lakes there.

Last edited by kagurazakayukari, Fri, 12 Feb 2021 11:02.

Quote from Scawen :

Thanks for the testing and feedback.

It's interesting to hear that the narrower tyres can work well with reduced power classes.

it is the classic drawback of the current tire physics model : even on a straight line, the downforce make the tires to almost heat up (what is actually the case with the Rx/Drift config with R2 tires, more than the classic wider tires that may loose few °c on long straights) ... so less power is obvioulsy helping regarding this aspect ...
But rallycross speaking, the GTR would need 100hp more to match the real counterparts (not sure the tires would follow)

Quote from kagurazakayukari :

Lastest thought： I think only no downforce can save these slim tyres… each tyre now have to handle nearly 150% of its original force…

indeed, the R2 tires are not suited at all anymore (did not test the other compounds, as I was more interested in street/Rx tires )...

Quote from martin18 :

Just so we are clear U29/U20 has 265 rear in XRR right? And u17/u18 had 275 rear?
The way I see is my Mazda Mx5 has 215 rear tires 200 tread wear tires and that car weights roughly 1040KG with roughly 130BHP and it can spin the wheels. A car with roughly same weight with 4 times the power in drifting needs at least that much tire 275-285.
If the GTR cars weight 1360 KG (3000LBs) then we can go down to 255/265 because that would put it with the drift comp cars from the past.

You are right, it is indeed 265. Where I do not follow you is that you think that heavier car needs less tire width ... it is not the case for cars in general, why would drift cars need less tire width when heavier ? or more generally, why would lighter cars need bigger tires ? seems weird.
I have no talent for drifting, but by playing a bit with XRR and FZR, I would say the FZR is better when clutch kicking due to the bigger engine ... on this, the XRR is clearly less interesting, but handling speaking I find it quite nice due to the weight balance : whatever the tire width (but again, not a specialist)

Quote from Scawen :

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I'm not sure the new configs should be called DRIFT / RX (on the XRR and FZR) and RX (on the FXR). Maybe there's a better name that could apply to all of them and doesn't seem to exclude hard track racing.

Indeed. I would simply call them something like RACE (for Rx/Drift option) and GTR for the classic version we know for a longtime.

Quote from Scawen :

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Changes in 0.6U19 (NEW INCOMPATIBLE VERSION)

Maximum number of layout objects increased to 2400
XR GTR in DRIFT / RX config has H-pattern shifter
Handbrake strength is now separately adjustable
10mm narrower rear tyres in XR GTR new config
10mm narrower F/R tyres in FXO GTR new config
10mm narrower track width FZ50 GTR new config
Tyre size displayed in Tyres tab in Garage
FIX: InSim IS_NPL did not report Config

https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/95016

wow, I did some laps in the FXR, and it is better feeling by far. More agility, more responsive, clearly better (almost matching the laptimes of U18 by 0.2/0.3s)
I did my test on BL3 with knobbly tires



I tried the XRR in the same config ... omg, that is a beast ! Impossible to not spinout the thing

Quote from Scawen :

NOTE: To use the new GTR configuration for XRR / FZR / FXR

- Garage
- New setup
- Info tab
- Configuration: RX / DRIFT

Gives you slimmer wheels, allowing a wider range of tyres and greater steering lock

I did a quick test (I was going mad with FXR on blackwood rallycross : amen to that patch ), and saw that : XFR and UFR are not included ... They are designed to be rallycross machines !

XRT has the same specs has RB4 ... and weigts more ... (not very nice)

he has discovered lfs yesterday ... give him some times

Ok, noted. I think I was misunderstanding sleep/cpu time/cpu tick.
Indeed when more AI are present, the percentage for physics is at 20, while alone it barely reach 1. What is logic.

A simple side question : is LFS limiting the cpu usage to compute frames ? for instance, in my case I suppose the clock frequency is getting somewhere at 5GHz when a single core is stressed, and so LFS displays a huge amount of FPS (more than 1300 when alone). But in the mean time LFS knows that my screen is limited to 60Hz => how is handled the thing in the end : does the couple cpu/gpu has really computed the things (1300 fps), but forbid the gpu to send this flow of framerate to the screen ? or is it done anyway, and the screen discard the unecessary frames ?
I know in the past there was some strong proselytizing ( ) for using vertical synchronization to have fps matching the screen max frequency, but at my level when doing some tests in various games, I tend to have a slightly less fluid experience than not using it ... it is of course very subjective I guess.
Anyway Scawen, I hope you wil succeed to find how to implement the facility for multithreading capabilities for LFS , it ease a lot the cpu consumption for a given result in the end.

Make a list of hosts that was visited previosly... quite annoying to look for server if there is no player in it so you have to refresh all servers and look for specific one in the list (because I filter empty servers)... there is some space in "Join specific host" page at the right or at the bottom.... I guess no need to show what car or track just name for fast host swap

and to be more realist, when the graphical update and the tire physics will be released (as a test patch(es) obviously), the next challenge after releasing the whole thing (indeed there will be some glitches I suppose) for Eric will be to release the two other tracks for S3 content ... so, interiors ...

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Last edited by Zsombor0, Sun, 9 May 2021 10:07.

it's very cool to have contact with the devs, really.

i waiting a long time to improve these little requests, i try it now...

we manage races on the GUM GARAGE and and little tools improvements will be really cool like :

1- possibility for race/server admin to adjuste the time for Stop&Go penalty (very usefull in case of reset available in enduro races to "pay" he instantly repair of the car)

2 - possibility to exactly know the start mode actually set ! random, reverse or standard . i think it will not extrem difficult to display an information like quali time or laps in the grid screen.
on the track this information could be display with the "msg" form on the top left

3- i really wish the possibility in future to adjust the speed time for day to night ! imagine begining a race on dayligth to finish at night !

4- possibility for race manager to apply speed limiter to ALL racers (especially on aval races to simulate safety car / yellow flag

5- ... or a IA safety car , called with a single key.

hope you read that little requests Scawen !

Best Regards

Quote from Scawen :

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APPROVED !!
Making those GTRs some rallycross machines is indeed very appealing
Same for those who wants to have AI online.
For drifting, I have no knowledge, but 65° seems crazy, but maybe real, do not know ...

Hi! Do this:
- enter Garage, choose a car (for example FXR), but when exiting the Garage, press Spectate or button Esc
- click "Add AI driver". That adds an AI with FXR.
- enter Garage, choose another car (XRR), exit with Spectate or button Esc
- click "Add AI driver". That adds an AI with XRR.
- repeat the same steps

You can click through the AI list (click the names, e.g. "AI 1", "AI 2" ...) to see which car they have set.

What bothers me the more, is to not know :
- what means the "O" in FXO
- what means the "50" in FZ50
...

There is japan cars in America for example, The mini for example is not created by one Company, but the "intention" (small car, easy to repair, van version,...) is the same from 1959 to 2001! look here, yes this is a mini ! https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocenti_Mini_Bertone

Old versions might be nice! Like an old "porsche" for FZ company?

Thats why I'm asking Lynce.
Anyways lately I've been playing BeamNG.drive a lot ... while waiting for the new update.

Quote from Scawen :

I'm wondering if it is reasonable to stop reporting collisions with unmovable layout objects now.

Can be, it actually would improve the situation as it was always confusing on South City layouts.

But what if it gets removed but it can be replaced by ... Lets say.. Invisible movable layout objects, so sections can be marked to the own desire of the layout creator / InSim manager?

Would probably lead to the request of a higher amount of maximum layout objects but that has always been the case anyhow.

If i use delayed command i need event when last driver qualified because when trackrotation start ...

Quote from Evolution_R :

Next week I hope for a progress report... hello Fernbay .
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Dover !!

... but maybe Eric is still struggling on South City and Kyoto ...

Fastest laps per car, along with top Drift scores, after 93 recorded laps ...



Server has now been closed, so these times and scores will remain unbeaten!

Thank you, but I don't use them anymore - they have a major issue which cannot be fixed without HDR.
I'm using these shaders now (which are closer to the default one with edited post-processing [on] option):
But I also using ReShade to correct the color, contrast and brightness.

Without ReShade (Raw):

I'm still not happy with the result ... waiting for the major graphics update (Scawen pls fix).

Last edited by Evolution_R, Sat, 31 Oct 2020 17:09.

same problem ... we manage races and it's very annoying to see drivers quit and reconnect .. i do not know what about consequence for the grid position for next race for example .
to avoid that, is there a command line ingame (admin) to kill the dld process ?

when i type /help, i saw "debug" command but need instruction complement ...

Last edited by Tomfuel, Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:38.