So I guess Formula Student isn't and MSA event.

Quote from tristancliffe :

MRT - huh? Is it too low? What ride heights must it run at. Is this just an issue with LFS allowing to many setup options?

3 inches minimum ground clearance for all MSA events I believe.

I guess by this logic (that all cars should have rollcages) then all cars should have plumbed in fire extinguishers, timing struts, FIA approved seats and harnesses and the MRT should be banned for not having enough ground clearance.

Quote from Gizz :

ooohh give the guy a break heh???

hehe - he did - he didn't mention the misplaced apostrophe

Download setup's what I was wondering Who is this 'setup' anyway?

or even downloads some replays from some leagues like these

Quote from spookthehamster :

I might give it a go. I'm a bit out of practise at the moment though, I've been put off by the lack of interesting combinations recently. If someone can get me started with a nice set I'll start practising.

Quote from Alkanphel :

I just got my momo and im like 3 secs slower than my pb with the mouse. O_o

^
I can't.

I'm sure we can find you those 3 secs Meet me on the server tonight and I'll get you there I reckon.

Quote from Blas89 :

If you accept a slow driver like me, I think I can make It

Slow or fast - its unimportant. You'll still get a good race I expect. There is a range of drivers signed up.

Quote from danowat :

I am in

BTW, I had to "manually" send you an email, because I use webmail and can't use the form on your site.......

Got your email entry mate. Adding you now. If anyone else wants in just click here

Quote from Gizz :

carnt make this one but ive been watching your races GF and im somewhat interessted , need to get my hand back in with the F08 as ive been mainly FOX lately, but i just love the fv8 best car in lfs imo..

soo when i get my new wheel (old one died) ill be sure to sign up are all the races this long??? gota love the longer races

Yeah - all GFC races are 75 mins and GTTC around 30 mins.

Hope to see you sign up sometime soon.

These guides are very good and worth a read.

I am going to produce an article on how I go about setting up my cars. In the meantime here are some of the things I do.

First I try a few different sets (inferno or maybe one you know is good on another track) and pick the one that feels the best and produces the most consistent times.

Watch the WR hotlap and click 'Test Drive'. Try it and see if it feels better than yours. It probably will so you need to try and recreate the feeling.

Think about how your set behaves differently to the WR set. Is it less stable under braking, over bumps or does it understeer more mid corner?

Then use the basic rules set out in the guides to adjust the settings to try and recreate the feeling.

Use the damper settings to adjust the balance in transition i.e. corner entry and exit. Use the ARBs and springs to adjust the balance in static state - i.e. mid corner under part or full throttle.

Once you have the balance about right at corner entry, mid and exit then you now need to re-adjust the camber angles to get the max from the tyres.

Do this by watching the WR lap. Slow the replay down to a quarter speed. Take a note of the tyre temps at the start of the lap. At the end of the lap repeat the process. You should have two sets of tyre temps each with 4 tyres and 3 temps for each tyre - inside, middle and outside.

Do a test run with your setup. Do the same number of laps as the WR. If the WR was set on lap 2 then do two laps and save the replay.

Watch the replay and note down all the tyre temps at the start and end of the lap again. Compare the tyre temps from your setup to that of the WR setup.

If your front tyre temps are hotter on the inside than the outside by a greater amount then the WR set then you need less camber and vice-versa.

If the tyre temps are hotter right across the surface then you need more air pressure and vice-versa.

Try and get all the tyre temps so they are as close as possible to the WR.

You may then find that if you have got more grip from, say the front tyres (relative to the rears) by changing cambers then you might need to adjust the suspension balance slightly again. This is an iterative process.

Don't forget about the brake balance - very important. If the car won't turn in when braking then try adding more rear brake. If the car snap oversteers while braking then try more front brake.

Last edited by Gentlefoot, Wed 31 Oct 2007, 20:33.

If the race starts at 21:00 UK Time I get complaints that its too late and "can we have it an hour earlier". We move to British Winter Time and the race becomes and hour earlier and then I get "boohoo top gear is on". I can't win

If there are any FO8 drivers out there who would like to compete in a 75 minute race this Sunday at 20:00 UK Local Time please go to GFC Event and sign up.

For the first time this season we have a very unbalanced grid with many more FOXs than FO8s.

Hope to hear from some of you soon.

The FOX really can be set up to be very easy to catch a slide. Go and get one of my set ups from LFS Car Setups

You should pick a track with a few slower corners to help you practice catching the oversteer.

You have to be quick with the opposite lock - experience with the car will mean you can anticipate the oversteer earlier so just practice.

If you are having trouble with my set you can make it easier to catch the slide by making the following adjustments:

-reduce the amount of differential power locking. This will allow the inside wheel to spin up more making the slide easier to catch.

-add some front ARB - just one or two clicks.

-add 1 click of rear downforce.

These changes will however make the set slightly slower.

Good luck. My LFS Track Guides page should help too.

Here are the entries for the first season of the GTTC I have so far:

1. Gentlefoot - TBO - ENG
2. Adam5k1 - ENG
3. count.bazley - ENG
4. Stig - FXO
5. Raybrig - FXR - SCO
6. laudi
7. Kalev - RB4 - Est
8. [RF]-art555 - RB4
9. ((Onion)) - TBA - ENG
10. nigelpm - FXR - ENG
11. mischief007 - XRT - CAN
12. Ian Maslen - TBA - ENG
13. Count.Bazley - TBO - ENG
14. scudge - TBA - IRL
15. Kaw - TBO - DEN
16. Psymonhilly - FXO - ENG
17. saumilsingh - FXR - IND
18. burnsy1882 - FXR - USA
19. Team Halfords (4 Drivers)
20. R.Kolz - FXR

Also, there are still several places available on the grid for this coming Sunday's GFC race at KY National Reverse.

Here are the entries for this event so far:

Double Vision RallyX Entries:

1. R4RGentlefoot XRG & Adam5k1 XFG
2. Ian Maslen TBA & TBA
3. Count.Bazley XRG & ((Onion)) XFG

Double Vision LX Entries:

1. R4RGentlefoot LX4 & Adam5k1 LX6
2. Ian Maslen TBA & TBA
3. Count.Bazley LX6 & ((Onion)) LX4
4. FMLaudi - LX4 & FMTroy LX6
5. gohfeld23 - LX4 & Partner TBA
6. Mazz - LX4 & Partnet TBA
7. Primoz - LX4 & Partner TBA
8. LRB_Aly - LX & DR|Strobe LX

Yep - all the sets will last over the long run (anything up to 75 mins). The tyres will go through a hot stage until they start to thin slightly. It's then that they really start to get grippy.

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

So liek what's the name of the video this thread is about?

Go to the page I linked to. See where it says
"GFC Race 10 - Aston Grand Touring - Sunday 21st October 07"?

The top three sets of clips are the battles I was reffering to in my original post.

However, since then I have added all the other videos to the same page so they are all in one place

Quote from Hyperactive :

I don't really like the flash player you are using on your site. I mean, it doesn't show how much it has loaded, or is it buffering or what it is doing. Other than that, the videos seem to be more of clips put together than real movies with some information about the races...

If you want to show movies, why not use youtube or stage6?

I don't want to use YouTube because I want to host thse videos from my site. You're right tho - it would be nice if the player showed how much was buffered.

Not sure which movie you are referring to as just a string of clips though. There are 8 movies on there and then the clips from my battles in the last race (never intended to be movies).

I have now added all my favourite LFS videos to this page: Enjoy

Quote from troy :

arrr i tend to forget these wednesday races, damn champions league. lets see if i can still catch some racing

edit: a bit too late, better luck next time

16th December - put it in yer diary

I had one of the best fun races in my entire LFS career on Sunday in the GFC. I enjoyed it so much I took some footage of the best battles I had.

http://gentlefoot.com/LFS/lfsvideo.html

Just thought I'd share the moment

Last edited by Gentlefoot, Fri 26 Oct 2007, 11:01.

I've just added a whole load of in-car footage from the last GFC race so you can all see for yourselves what the racing in this event is like.

http://gentlefoot.com/LFS/onboardvideo.html

Quote from BlueFlame :

I don't really think you can base the saftey on the difference between the FOX and the FO8 compared to the Difference of the TBO's and the GTR's as it is too... well too different

If I may suggest, there be a practice race? I will try to be there and see what happens, as i'm sure everyone else that is interested will.

Yeah - a good suggestion. It's exactly what we did before the GFC and if the signups look reasonable I will set one up for the GTTC too

Quote from BlueFlame :

I would prefer LX4 and LX6 racing, rather than GTR's and TBO's, I just don't know about the balance... Maybe the GTR's should carry a compulsory intake restriction and some balast... there's no way it can be safe racing if the GTR's lap you within 5 laps...

If FOXs and FO8s are safe then so are TBOs and GTRs in my view. You just have to have clear rules about lapping. See any of the GFC races - especially the last one (Race 10 which I will upload tonight).

btw - it's not a choice of LXs or TBOs and GTRs. They are two completely separate events.

Double Vision is the LX event on 16th December. GTTC starts next Jan and will use TBOs and GTRs in a dual class formula the same as the GFC.

Quote from pearcy_2k7 :

I think it will be safe imagin LeMans or britcar 24hr races plenty of classes like Top Gear in a 335d BMW racing against all sorts of sports cars that real racing for you! i might be intrested in this if theres going to be a round on westhill i love GTR westhill combo

Yep - there is on Sunday 27th April. - www.gentlefoot.com/calendar.html

Quote from Xaid0n :

hahahaha nice one gentlefoot, so you predicted this years champion, who will win next year?

My prediction for next year is Kimi's second crown. I think Mclaren will struggle with the end pit garage.

Quote from Nobo :

You did bet some money m8?

I'm not a betting man Maybe I should be.

Quote from TRM.13 :

Some time ago spanish community talked about this and many of you call us bad pilots....
I see now that we aren't the worst :bananadea

You mean people on here said you were bad drivers for all finishing? lol Doesn't surprise me somehow This forum can display some odd view points sometimes.