Quote from spanks :

Just because they aren't walls doesn't mean they can't hurt, very badly

Too right! Go into a deep gravel trap sideways and say hello to opposite gravity land lol

Not to mention that stuff gets everywhere.

You might find these images useful mate:

These photos come from Allan Staniforth's Race and Rally Car Source Book. A fantastic read and a must for any self respecting petrol head.

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I read once that the lower roll centre should be at the lighter end of the vehicle.

At the end of the day there are lots of ways of achieving a particular handling balance and in my view there are no simple rules and no subsititute for hours and hours of on-track testing. Still it's all good fun you lucky bugger

Last edited by Gentlefoot, Mon 17 Sep 2007, 11:48.

I'm a trackday regular too. Check out these vids:

http://gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewtopic.php?t=203

and

http://gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewtopic.php?t=202

Quote from jscharpf :

Is there a league that I can join that accepts new players? I don't mind if I'm the lapped car on every race. I just want to gain experience. I can only commit to weekends because my work week is too unpredictable.

Is there a way to join up with an experienced driver and have that person take me through some simple laps and/or simple concepts, just to make sure I'm not starting off with bad habits?

Any advice, links, etc.. is appreciated.

Jeff

You'd be welcome to join the GFC. All standards catered for. At the start of the season many of the guys were rookies but all have pretty good skills now.

http://gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum

We are all very open in the community and share sets and practice together. Come along to the GFC server some time. Should be a few of us about this week as there is a race in Sunday.

Event times will suit you too I expect.

Quote from TonyP23 :

Can any of you look at my laps and give me a clue how to get faster as i feel stuck in a rut.
My best lap at aston club in the Fox is 1:02 something but usually i get 1:03:50 ish or worse.
The car feels very slow after playing Rfactor in the RF1.
It's very frustrating.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Cheers

http://gentlefoot.com/LFS/footwork.html

You may also find these trackguides useful even if you aren't running those tracks and cars:

http://gentlefoot.com/LFS/trackguides.html

Quote from I am a FOX racer at heart and there is only the GFC going. I should really enter into that. The dual classes is good, but doesnt tickle my fancy.

I want just FOX vs FOX racing [:D :

You should try it mate. Reckon you might be surprised.

One of the GFC regulars ((Onion)) has made this great highlights video of round 1-6.

http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewtopic.php?t=265

Enjoy.

One of the GFC regulars ((Onion)) has made this great highlights video of round 1-6.

http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewtopic.php?t=265

Enjoy.

Quote from EmilO :

Exuse me for my noobility, Facebook?

Google it - massive networking site like myspace and bebo

I've created a facebook LFS group called Live For Speed. Come join me

Quote from Kalev EST :

Oh, a TBO league. Very nice. And short races. Even better.

If I have time, I´d love to take part. Please please please please please include Westhill Rev. It´s my favourite track for TBO´s.
(Along with So Sprint 1, So Sprint 1 rev and Ky GP Long rev).

Yep - westhill reverse is currently on the calendar and I agree - it's a classic. I can't see it getting dropped

And if you are not into Single Seater racing then maybe the GTTC (Gentlefoot Tin Top Challenge) is for you. Post in http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=552129 to express an interest.

OK so the majority of people like 30 minute races. I have taken this onboard and will introduce an addition to the GFC for season 2. I plan to introduce dual class racing with TBO and GTR classes for next year. The races will shadow the GFC season taking place an hour or two before the start of the main GFC races. The races will be around 30 minutes in length and the series will be known as the Gentlefoot Tin Top Challenge (GTTC). Go to http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewtopic.php?t=259 for more info.

The rules and judicial procedures will be identical to that of the GFC which can all be seen in the forum. Hopefully it will be as successful as the GFC too.

I voted yes and I will in the future. In fact I race exclusively in leagues and never on public servers.

I only race once every two weeks although I will do some pactice laps before a league race.

I compete and run the GFC which has been praised heavily by those who compete in it - see http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=30984

I am thinking about running an additional league alongside the GFC for season 2. See http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewtopic.php?t=259

I would be very pleased to see some new faces come join us

Quote from danowat :

Will certainly make more sence for me when the clocks go back (28th Oct), unfortunately, that only leaves 2 events, but I'll endevour to enter to those 2 events.

It has been raised a few times now. At the start of the season I held a vote for the start time and 20:00GMT was the most popular choice. However, I'm suspicious some of the people who voted didn't know that that was actually 21:00BST.

At the end of this season we are voting again to decide if we want to move the start time forward by one hour.

It would be great to have you aboard Dan. Another quality racer to add to the list

Interesting so many people citing the fact that the field gets spread in longer races. It dosn't matter to me at all. I'm always looking at the splits between me and the driver in front and trying to close him down or maybe the splits between me and the driver behind me who may be closing me down. The pressure it creates can be a real buzz.

For example, I was forced to pit on lap 9 of a 38 lap race in the GFC at the weekend which put me almost last when I came out of the pits. So I had to push to try and make back as many points as possible. Always watching the gap to the cars in front and trying to close on them.

At other races I may find myself in the lead of the class because maybe a couple of the guys who are faster than me at that circuit have made mistakes. That is a really tough situation to be in when you can see the gap shrinking. At South City I picked up some damage and was hoping to make it to the end of the race without stopping. The gap closed...and closed...and closed. I got it wrong, I should have pitted sooner.

All this kind of excitement only happens in races of 45 mins or more. You may not make a single pass all race or not have to defend but it is still a total buzz.

I was interested to find out what the general consensus is in terms of the length of races drivers out there like. I'm not thinking so much about public servers as league races. The problem with long races in public servers is that most people crash out

Anyway, I've created this poll.

Our GFC (read more at http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=30984 and www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum) races are 75 minutes which I find very challenging but also not too bad in terms of back and wrist ache

Last edited by Gentlefoot, Mon 10 Sep 2007, 11:28.

If you are the kind of driver who likes a real challenge then maybe you should consider dual class racing. In the spirit of Le Mans the GFC runs two classes of car on the same track. This means not only do you have to concentrate on the corner in front of you but also slower cars that you are closing on fast or alternatively much faster cars appearing in your mirrors.

In the GFC we run FO8s and FOXs in 75 minute races. See the following thread for more information:
http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3

Obviously this type of racing has to be strictly controlled to ensure a fair race for everyone. In the GFC we hold judicial reviews following each race for any incidents that occurred. This means drivers do not have to argue with each other over whose fault a particular incident was.
http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewforum.php?f=3

We adhere to rules such as no passing under yellow flags to avoid one incident becoming several. Here are all the rules as they stand:
http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26

The rules are clear and they are illustrated by footage produced for the judicial reviews. Decisions are made by the community as a whole by way of a voting system.
http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewforum.php?f=34

In order to be successful in the GFC you do not have to be the fastest driver. Instead you need to score points consistently over the season and finish every race. This is illustrated by looking at the current standing after 8 races.
http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150

I also provide statistics and driver performance in this spreadsheet and some trend information for the season as a whole.

There are 4 races left for this season and I would invite anyone considering season 2 to run a couple of tests by racing in one or two of the final four races left of this season. This is a very different racing experience to other leagues and public servers.

All the drivers this season have expressed their enjoyment of this ultimate challenge series. Grids are usually around 20-25 cars at the moment so there are several places left for new blood coming in.

If you would like to join register at http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/ and then send your entry by following the entry procedure stated here:
http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewforum.php?f=12

Feel free to view some of the replays if you want to see some of the action:
http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewforum.php?f=33

You don't have to be the greatest LFS driver in the world to compete in this series. I accept all levels of skill and I have found that the rookies that started this season are now formidable drivers as this format of racing teaches you awareness and speed.

Last edited by Gentlefoot, Mon 10 Sep 2007, 10:19.

I change mine every time I change car. I like to be as narrow a FOV as possible while still allowing me to see around me a little.

Quote from danowat :

Ok, so heres the deal....

Got the insurance money for my car, and I need to replace it, I have found 2 identical cars, both 2.0lt Turbo Diesels, both same age, same spec etc etc.

Car 1) 108,000 miles £3,995
Car 2) 65,000 miles £4,995

So basically, £1000 for 40,000 miles difference.

Which would you choose and why?

I'd buy whichever one my gut instinct told me was the best. Mileage is often irrelevant. I'd be more concerned with the docs, service history, who'd owned them and what was wrong with them after looking around them properly, getting underneath them and all that.

Also, who the sellers are and how they behave.

Aston Historic works pretty well around there.

Quote from felplacerad :

Oh so you DO have an edit button.

Don't bother applying!

Didn't anyone watch this replay? Watching .define.'s race would be very useful for many people to see what it takes to be a top class LFS racer. The guy makes no mistakes for 75 laps yet still with incredible pace!!

btw - there are still 10 slots left for the upcoming race at South City Long Reverse on 26th August.

EDIT: Actually only 5 grid slots left. Sorry

Last edited by Gentlefoot, Sun 19 Aug 2007, 11:28.

I've just watched this replay http://gentlefoot.com/LFS/GFC5Race.mpr

and I thought this just shows what the GFC is all about. Clean good natured racing throughout the grid.

And .define.'s performance is atonishing! When you look at the stats
http://gentlefoot.com/LFS/forum/viewtopic.php?t=207

you see he didn't cause a single yellow the whole 75 laps even with all those FO8s passing him and with the lap times he does. Remarkable driving skills I'm sure you'll agree.

Quote from banshee56 :

Check the track page in the LFS Manual. I've added the car limits as verified inside the sim.

Thanks mate - great stuff.