qualy of first race begins today in 35min from this post

Today at 19:30 CET in 2h 10min from this post:
Fz5 at Kyoto Nation rev (Ky2r) for 23 laps

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Last edited by Gutholz, Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:28.

You are posting on forum, so you are using the account? That is suifficent to recover account via that link.
Or is it about a different account?

calender is also useful because it saves from timezone confussion.
(when logged in the times are automatically show in your local time)

For future reference, maybe in the cfg.txt you had set the wrong settings for insim/outsim/gauge ports? Or had it disabled.

http://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/OutSim_/_OutGauge

Habs gestern nicht zum Rennen geschafft. (RAC / Kyoto)
Wollte eben nachträglich abmelden aber die CL Seite ist gerade seehr träge. Also nun hier

Today a bit 'improvised' racing at the usual time. See chatbox on absolute-beginners.nl for details on server etc.

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Different people have a different amount of motion sickness. What your eyes are seeing doesn't match with what your balance sense is telling you.

That happens with normal screens too.
At our first lan parties one guy was getting motion sickness from playing quake and halflife
Eventually he got used to it though.

Another season has completed. Soon final standings etc.

Next sunday will probally be some special/more relaxed between-season events before next season is announced.

.raf format: https://www.lfs.net/programmer/raf
trackir positions do not seem to be recorded..

insim can read camera position. Not sure what it reports when you have driver-view and use trackir to look around..

For test I have once run LFS s2 (pre 0.6R) on a similiar speed single-core CPU and it went so-so. Although that was not a Celeron..
I think CPU is not the bottleneck if previously 30 fps were possible. He does not aim to run three 120fps screens or HD beamer..he seemed content with 20-30 fps. RAM + videocard might archive that. ,Tthose compoments are easiest to upgrade if you can find something suitable => worth a try.

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when I start the game says Shadow error

Really "shadow" or "shader" error?
If "shadow": in options you can switch between two ways to generate shadows. Or turn shadows off.

What mainboard?
Usually it makes no sense to upgrade so old computer, but here you might be able to get good boost from used/cheap components:
-get more RAM. The onboard-chip has no own RAM and shares system-RAM.
-get a dedicated video-card. Can be something many years old, anything is better than intel onboard graphics. (maybe ATI Radeon HD 3650 or Geforce 9600 or something in that range)

My UFR handles like that except it falls over more often

I think it gives ??? because the windows copy/paste does not know those symbols.
It worked for me with some chars (like the arrows) but not the japanese signs.
Hm, when one copies japanese symbols from LFS-remote then it works to paste them into other windows applications. ｸ But pasting into LFS gives "??"

When you copy-paste within LFS then it works, too. (the japanese signs too) (for example copy someone's chat and paste it as your F-key message)

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it still isn't near instant engage, it's quite faster than AC ofc,

So we agree that button-clutch-rate engages faster than AC.
But we disagree on how large the effect is.

What buttonrate do you use?
Surely not a setting that is faster than AC because if bc supposedly has so many other advantages then that should not be nessecary...?

Why do you assume that people who disagree have not "tried it"?

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I think that even after dozens of laps with BC, it could look like it's actually slower, as i thought when i was trying to learn it.

I think that is simply the effect of getting used to something new.
Same effect you would see with any changed setting or new control scheme, whether it actually influences speed or not.

With bc too, at first it is unusual and that makes comparision difficult. However the effect of faster gear-change is clear whether one manages to turn it into reliable faster laps or not.
And that effect is archived by having faster engaging clutch than AC or is reliable possible with foot pedal = unrealistic = meh.

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> So you're implying Auto clutch provides a more realistic experience/immersion than a manual button clutch ?

Yes.
With BC the player has "operate the clutch" and that makes it a bit tiny more realistic BUT how it works makes it in sum less realistic.

rest of post is too unformated or already adressed..

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Button clutch doesn't engages the clutch instantly. It is faster than AC which is understandable (since AC is an assist, and it shouldn't be both: easier and faster), but it still simulates the time a pedal would take to operate, same as button brake and button throttle. Theres a multipler in settings, where you can customize it.

It can be set to be basically instantly and I bet majority of bc-users uses it like that.

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Maybe a good compromise would be to lower the speed of axis mapped as button,

Excactly.
Clutch-rate should be seperate from the other pedals. Imo still does not make it less of an exploit to use unrealistic setting.

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Then should we disallow using mouse or gamepad as a controller? Why no one every point that out. Clearly should be banned. Also, thinking that way, i have a question. Do you think, using paddleshifters, or sequntial gearstick, is realistic in cars like XFG, XRT, RB4 and every other in game car with H-pattern gearbox?

No, because that is about finding a compromises how the game can be played with widely-used hardware. (controllers, wheels with 2 pedals etc)
One is a compromise: Making the game more accessible for wider range of hardware.
Second is exploit: Using options that game offers for "less-optimal" hardware, with unrealistic settings, to gain advantage.

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My point is, if something gives advantage, then why i shouldn't use it?

For some people playing sims is not only about getting every possible advantage, but also about somewhat realistic experience/immersion.
Why does not everybody drive from unrealistic roof-view?
Why do people buy/build wheels with stronger FFB or more rotation?
Not because it gives an advantage...

I think none of the mentioned 'skills' that button-clutch supposedly requires exist. (For sure they are not skills that make it more realistic. )
A pedal-clutch takes time to press and you have to move your feet. (=slow!)
Since pedal-sets with only two pedals are wide-spread, it needs a way to drive without clutch-pedal: That is the auto-clutch option. It simulates the time a pedal would take to operate.
But how button-clutch engages the clutch instantly, at least how it gets used 99% of time. That is unrealistic in way like it is unrealistic that gamepad or mouse-steering can go lock-to-lock instantly.
And so it is no surprise that main-advantage of button-clutch is not "better rev-matching" or "realism", it is simply that when upshifting on straights the bc-user accelerates fasters because his clutch operates unrealistic instantly.

I doubt that will work.
LFS probally has its own list of useable characters (that is how it has all those strange/foreign extra symbols in the first place) but adding external ones like that is not possible. LFS does not 'know' those characters.
Other way around it would not work either, eg copying chinese (?) characters from LFS into a text-editor that does not support chinese.

It is a binary file. If you save the file with a text-editor then it will be in wrong format and LFS can not read it anymore.
I tried to edit fkeys.msg with hexeditor, seemed to work.
If you do not have one install try with https://hexed.it/ (works in browser)

current season of S3 league is finished. (results soon)

Formel BMW Cup still has two events.
One today in ~40 minutes from this post at SouthCity Chicane
Last race next sunday, random finisher will pick track.

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The actual tutorial is just select a language, create a driver, name it, grab XFG with default setup, enter Blackwood and off you go.

Well there is the "Driving School" which is a bit more, with lessons and driving slalom around cones and stuff.
I think there are diffent starting-points depending on experience.
Absolutely no idea how to drive: there is the parking lot where you can just drive in wide circles or so.
And from there one can step up to driving school / singleplayer / multiplayer etc

Maybe temperature inside the tire (air)? Would make sense if that is usually lower.

Today at 19:30 in circa 2h 30 minutes from this post:
The grande Finale with the small cars!
Mrt @ South City Sprint
(changed pitlane)