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joen
S2 licensed
Quote from The General Lee :IE ftw!

Why run Microsoft XP then not use its browser?
If you were running Apple, then fair enough.

But if IE is that bad, then surely its not worth running XP?

As if IE is synonym to XP, and Safari is synonym to OSX?

So, if you don't use any of the standard XP apps you shouldn't use the OS?
Sorry, but that's really twisted reasoning there.

I mean, why run XP if you're going to use Photoshop instead of paint?
(ok it's a stretch but that's how Firefox feels compared to IE )
joen
S2 licensed
Quote from Becky Rose :It's coming bundled with Quicktime and iTunes installs, it's going to sneak it's way onto your system without your permission when you least expect it - and that's how they will get the market share.

That's actually one of the reasons I stopped using iTunes. Aside from being slow and resource devouring. As far as usability I think it's a nice app. But I can't stand you get QuickTime with it whether you want it or not. It also installs an "iPod service" that's sitting there on my harddrive and in my RAM using up resources. But the thing is, I don't have an iPod... so I don't get why it should be running on my system. You can stop and disable the service though...every time all over again when you get an iTunes update.
It also installs some other service called "iTunes Helper service". So far it hasn't helped me a bit though. Even more annoying is that you can stop and disable the service, but when you restart your PC it's back up and running.

I was actually quite surprised that Safari is available in a QT-less version.
It's gone off my system already though, I click the bookmarks button on the toolbar->crash, choose bookmarks in the menubar->crash, add a bookmark folder->crash, import bookmarks->crash, show all history->crash. All reproducible 100%. POS.
joen
S2 licensed
it better!

surely it shouldn´t be a problem at all.
joen
S2 licensed
Quote from xt :Balancing? nice idea, but its sim, right? i think car difference is natural and no need to be balanced. else why not adding more power to xrg? lets put a ton to bf1, and then try to race balanced

okay, its just opinion.

Yes, car difference is normal, but there are severall car classes in LFS and those classes had a clearly strongest car making the other cars hardly used because they were almost always uncompetitive. This requires adjustments, it´s something the community has been asking for for a long time.
If one of the cars in a class is clearly the best, it´s not of much use to create car classes in the first place.
The BF1 is a real car so it should have the real specs. And besides that, the BF1 is alone in it´s class so balancing wouldn´t be needed anyway.
joen
S2 licensed
Tried it out last night. During the 15 minutes I tried it out it crashed about 7 times or so. I know it´s a beta build and all, but it´s very unstable for me.
Also, quite a lot of pages looked borked. I know that not every page is coded correctly, but considering standards compliance is really good in Firefox and Opera too, it seemed to me it was a bit too bad.
Will be interesting to see how this develops, but I don´t really see what this browser offers that others don´t already do.
Plus, a common problem with apple´s apps for windows is that they´re basically ports and because of that they are usually slow and don´t behave like a proper windows app should.
joen
S2 licensed
Quote from Vain :
joen: Basically yes, you can do a lot things with the new buttons system. Just so you get an imagination of how versatile the system is: Except for the graphs it'd be definitely possible to do something like an InGame-implementation of LFSworld.

Nice, now if I could only code Will be interesting to see what people will come up with in the future. Would be nice that if you enter a server an app could give you a quick overview of your stats on that track/combo for example.

Going to try out the new version tomorrow
joen
S2 licensed
Quote from wasaabi :but I bought it anyway assuming that the physics and cars were going to stay mostly the same.

All I can say is that if you're hoping for the physics model to stay the same forever, you're going to be dissapointed. It's not finished after all, this sim is a work in progress.

Quote :the old S2 is what I bought, and not X!

Quote :
End-user license agreement
1.4You must be aware that we can alter any aspect of LFS as we see fit. Improvements, fixes and/or changes made to the game, are to be expected.

Just to be clear, I wasn't referring to you in my previous post. Sorry if it came across that way.
joen
S2 licensed
Funny how some people know so well how to criticize changes in LFS all the time, yet choose not to partake in discussions about planned changes before they are implemented and complain afterwards. Talk about obnoxious, passive and clueless.

Besides, the whole handicap system is temporary anyway until definitive changes are made to the cars specs. So if you have constructive suggestions for it, act now and don't come complaining when it's too late again...
joen
S2 licensed
came out crap but oh well

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joen
S2 licensed
Maybe not entirely specific to this handy little app, but I was wondering. With the new insim features would it be possible to construct your own OSD?
So you can choose whichever on screen info you want displayed? If so that would be a great way to customize the available screen info to your personal preferences.
joen
S2 licensed
Quote from Azaazaa :Couldn't resist.



Mate, that's a classic!
joen
S2 licensed
Quote from Arfman :Why are you on such a crusade against everyone that isn't using LFS as a racing simulator? Are we bothering you? Do you feel you have any negative sideeffects of more people buying LFS?

I am not on a crusade against anyone. I am merely giving my opinion on matters, I believe I am allowed to am I not? If you object to me giving my personal opinion I suggest you stay away from internet discussion forums. I have no problem with people using LFS in other ways than it was intended for. People asking for changes to LFS to turn it into something it's not and shouldn't be, that's a different matter.

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No one is demanding patches. The contacts between TC and the devs has always been friendly and in a mannered way.

Contacts between the devs and any member of LFS have always been friendly and mannered.

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I'm only saying certain options would be nice for cruise servers AND hardcore racesim servers

And I am saying I don't agree with that opinion.

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like barrier physics detection for instance.

Did I ever mention that would be a bad thing? Ofcourse that would be a good thing, and thus it will be completed.

Quote :And maybe you should redefine "democracy".

A system wherein decisions are made based upon consensus of the majority.
That's the best way I can.

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I'll bet that if iD gets enough requests for a RPG-like Doom 3 game, they'll make it.

Exactly, they would make an other game.

Quote :In the end, it's all about money.

And that's where you fail to see the difference between LFS and most other games.
No, the devs won't do it for free, but money isn't a determining factor in choices that are made for LFS. Don't believe me, look up some of Scawen's posts.

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I'm betting that if cruise servers are getting even more popular than they are now, some things on the devlist will be put higher on the list (barrier physics, money system, you name it).

I am absolutely convinced they wouldn't. There will never be a "money system". And once again, barrier physics is not "a cruising thing", it's part of the core of LFS and will be completed. I don't know where you would get the idea that it somehow has something to do with cruising servers.

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Really, this is the real world and in the end, everything is about money. LFS is made by independent devs and at the end of the month, they have a mortgage and bills to pay. And if a "cruisesim" does that ...

See below.

Quote from Scawen :
The money that we can make, although an important consideration, is simply not the primary driving force. If it was, then we should do something completely different, something mainstream. There are a lot of easier ways to make money. We're doing this because we like what we do.

I didn't know sales of S2 weren't sufficient to pay the devs bills?
They have been doing this for 5 years now, so my guess is that they're doing fine.

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I'm not saying LFS should turn into a cruisesim, IMHO cruising and hardcore racing (and even drifting for that matter) can coexist very nicely within the community.

I'm repeating myself again, but everyone can do whatever they want with LFS. I never said they couldn't.

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Things like ingame object editing, allowing more track objects to be placed in (possibly as soon as the) a next patch, those are things that came from cruiseservers, like it or not.

These are also not cruising specific things. The whole cruising thing can exist because of the Autocross editor which has been in LFS way before the first cruising server appeared.

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Anyway, I don't see a problem with people using LFS as a cruisegame. I think Scawen can prioritize the things he wants to do very good, I don't think he needs someone like you telling him what LFS should be and should not be

Please don't take my words out of their context. Reading something is not good enough, you have to be able to understand and interpret what you read as well.
I am not telling Scawen what to do at all. If you think I am like that you clearly have no clue about me. If you read through my post history you will see that I am completely the opposite telling people (like Mike85) they don't need to tell Scawen what to prioritize on or demand development plans and schedules from him.

All I am doing here is giving my personal view on it. If that's something you can't realise, deal with or if it affects you in any bad way may I suggest using the ignore feature of this board.
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joen
S2 licensed
Quote from Azaazaa :Here's my contribution:


hahaha
awesome!

You should do one just like this but with the three devs!
joen
S2 licensed
Quote from Arfman :That's 15-20% of paying customers, which is a lot.

And all those people bought a racing simulator.

What if a group of people decided to use some FPS game not as a FPS game but as some sort of RPG game. And after a while they start demanding patches from the developers so they can play their own RPG type games better? What do you think a company like iD would say?

Quote :My point is that everyone should be able to play the game as he/she likes it, and it's only normal that the devs will implement some "cruise" features sooner or later, because cruisers make up for about 20% of all customers.

Everyone can play it like they want to, that does not mean every wish they have will be fulfilled, especially if it doesn´t fit in LFS´ development.
This isn´t about pleasing as many people as possible and it´s not about democracy.

And once more:

License agreement
1.4You must be aware that we can alter any aspect of LFS as we see fit. Improvements, fixes and/or changes made to the game, are to be expected.

once again, popularity isn´t the determining factor, it´s the goals of LFS.

Quote :And I'm saying this because the devs are already listening to cruisers and implementing things here and there for them.

Like what?

If the devs would want to have a TDU like game, they would have made it already. They probably would earn more from it too.
joen
S2 licensed
Quote from Mike85 :Time will tell. But I will try my best to persuade teh devs to fix the reset for the Y patch. And then you will all cry

oh noes!
joen
S2 licensed
Quote from DieKolkrabe :@joen: Where exactly is exaggerating 'one of my specialties'?

You blow things out of proportion. If you don´t realise that yourself or don´t have any proof of the things you mention so often as you claim then there is nothing I can say that would be able to convince you really.
This thread is getting a bit silly imo. I guess some people are just overly sensitive.
joen
S2 licensed
Quote from Cr!t!calDrift :Pfft.
I've experienced it, tell me otherwise. Check my post history.

Well, I asked DK to give 10 examples since he's saying it happens so often. He has a point to prove, so that does not mean I'm going to search for examples myself.

I feel DK is taking some bad experiences, putting them under a magnifying glass and claiming this is the way it goes all the time. Plus, exaggerating is one of his specialties.

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And. The day before I was given s2:

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/6851/s2abusermx7.png

So you met an ****. Does this prove anything about the community in general? Everybody can go on telling about their own bad experience and how some guy in some race did something to them and wasn't nice, but it has nothing to do with being a community problem. There's idiots everywhere in real life, everywhere online, so they are in LFS too. Plus, on some server types I think you run into them more often, but I'm probably stepping on someone's toe again now.

Quote from DieKolkrabe :
Point 3: Again, go to a popular server and wait for a newly licensed racer to log in, say 'hi, I'm new to S2', he/she will be met with a barrage of 'go practice offline n00b' messages and if he/she does get out on track, they will be treated very very harshly

So, at this point they just say hi, don't get into the race yet and already getting the "go practice offline noob"? And the way you describe this, it happens like this all the time? That's weird because I have NEVER experienced this.
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joen
S2 licensed
Quote from DieKolkrabe :Every time a demo racer asks a question, the reply is 'buy s2'

Again, extremely exaggerated. The poor poor demoracers. It's getting tiresome now.

Example: If a demo racer comes on the forum complaining about the high amount of wreckers, it is a good advice to recommend getting a license.

Another example: If a demo racers comes on the forum saying he would like to drive more cars in LFS, it then is...right.

A challenge: as you say it happens everytime I challenge you to direct me to 10 occasions where this has happened and was totally uncalled for. If it happens that much it shouldn't be hard to do.
joen
S2 licensed
Just tested it out, cool stuff Vain Will think about suggestions when I'm thinking clearer
joen
S2 licensed
Quote from lysergic :Could anybody render this Fo8 skin?

There's a special thread for render requests: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=730&page=100
joen
S2 licensed
Think about some people's already (unjustifiable) complaining about LFS' pricing. Releasing LFS through retail channels will without a doubt add quite a lot to the pricing. You need to have the CD's pressed, print booklets, package it, distribute it, hand over a percentage to the stores and distributors, and all this for a game that appeals only to a (relatively) small segment of the market. The ones that would be interested in LFS may be put off by the pricing they see in shops and because of that maybe don't even find out you can buy it online for a lower price.
joen
S2 licensed
I agree with you for the most part. But on a related note to your point 4, here's my

subsection 4b)
The oversensitiveness of certain groups in the LFS community (demo racers, drifters, CnR players, etc).
Ofcourse there's no need to bash someone just for being a demo racer or drifter, but these days you can hardly give any criticism to let's say a demo racer.

You're automatically labeled a demo racer hater even though you would have said the same thing if the person in question was an S2 player. That's what I call annoying and hiding in a victim role.

The "hate" towards demoracers on this forum is EXTREMELY exaggerated. Everything you say that could be interpreted in a negative way has someone going off when it's a demoracer you're adressing to.

The way I see it is that this is a very straight forward community. People around here tend to be honest and therefore outspoken. So it's really a matter of "you get out of it what you put in yourself"
People in general in the sim and on the forum are extremely helpful and generous (most helpful forum I've ever been a part of), but if you're going to be a lazy bastard, you're going to get treated as such. Come in and ask your questions/suggest your ideas in a well mannered way and you're going to get all the help and good discussions you need.

hmm, edited my post to add to my thoughts and I said exactly the same as srdsprinter :0 spooky...
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joen
S2 licensed
Quote from Mike85 :Because thats all they do. Agree on everything and defend Scawen and the game.

And all you do is piss on everything that you don't agree with. And when it becomes clear that most other people don't agree with you you start calling them fanboys who aren't able to form their own opinion. Because it couldn't possibly be that most people simply don't agree with you! Ofcourse not! Oh the thought!

Quote from Mike85 :Why dont you then ban mouse and keyboard users, because the wheel is more realistic?

Removing keyboard and mouse support will exclude people who don't have a wheel (yet) from getting to know the game. If you read around the forums you will notice that sooner or later people stop by for advice on which wheel to get.
The same goes for auto clutch. Until the G25 arrived there were practically no affordable wheels with a clutch pedal. Removing auto clutch for the sake of realism would put people on the sideline. Changing the reset options does not exclude a certain group of people, it effects everybody. So it
's a totally different thing.
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joen
S2 licensed
Quote from Thill :
Well in real life i dont recall that hitting a metal barrier(spelling) makes you fly like you were a f-16 about to take off

And that's why those issues will be fixed in one of the upcoming patches for sure. New steps towards realism shouldn't be held back because of other known realism issues. Remember that this is a sim in development. So it should become more realistic, step by step. Personally I would like Scawen to prioritize on the collision detection for the new patch, but who knows what he will do first, it's up to him
People that have something against the changed resets are in for a tough time when the damage model will be improved. But at least you have a valid reason to object to it
joen
S2 licensed
The right decision sir
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