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NightShift
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Quote from Zen321 :So stop taking the piss and get some fun.

Quote from NightShift :Don't you think you're being a little disrespectful here?

...again?

Quote from Zen321 :Hey take it easy !

I'm taking it easy, but are you? You should follow your own advice instead of overreacting like that. It only shows that I was right in the first place.

Let's face the reality, your tongue has outpaced your brain in that other post of yours, and for a moment you thought LFSforum is all about kids.

To err is human, but to recogne the misstep is a much wiser strategy rather than dragging other people's mothers into a discussion just to argue in vain.

Quote from boosterfire :Learning a new technology or ability is much harder when you're old.

Sure it is, having taught to people 50+ yo, I can say they will never be as fast learners as interested kids, but they still beat the crap out of brats who think they know it all already and don't need an education
NightShift
S2 licensed
Quote from Speed Soro :Even in the fighters, in maneuvers of avoidance, the time to change the direction of a plane, are much larger than the time a car spends to make a closed curve, I think.

So if I understand this well, you're saying the rate of change of acceleration is higher on a race car than a fighter plane?

I can't see a reason why it should be that way. As long as the car is driven on a track (and not crashed against a concrete wall), the RoC of acceleration should be limited by the total stiffness (tyres + suspension + chassis) of the car.

Every car has some kind of damping setup, and I see no reason to state the flexibility of the materials and the plane structure should be lower than the figure you'd get from even a purebred racing car.

AFAICT planes pilots are bound to wear special equipment and engage in specific training to minimize the chance of them fainting. Even in F1 while pilots are trained to be able and withstand the physical effort, there's no special equipment involved except those needed for safety.

So IMO simulating fighter planes(*) may be as hard and likely harder, on the motion simulator, than cars.

(*) and that assuming air pockets aren't able to generate intense acceleration pulses on passenger planes too.
NightShift
S2 licensed
A card from the Torsdagsrace R12

NightShift
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If the car had cracked up in half then the bodies would have been thrown far away from the wreck, but in the video the blankets can be clearly seen where the seats are supposed to be, so the bodies were still inside after the crash, which is expected if they were using seatbelts: but the belts themselves hang from the B pillar which is in another place entirely.

Conclusion is the seatbelts were cut after the crash, and the back of the car separated for whatever reason by the rescue team. Yes, they don't go easy on cars, even on less dramatic accidents
NightShift
S2 licensed
Catford and Twickenham are real towns.
NightShift
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Data deduplication?
NightShift
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Quote from Becky Rose :Must've been doing a hell of a lick to break a car in half like that.

Most likely it was cut to extract the two people in it.
NightShift
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That bit of yours "The transitions of a plane are always slower than a car" doesn't quite sound right to me.
NightShift
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Quote from de Souza :I'd choose one longer race over 2 sprints anytime, but that's just me.

No it's not

And BTW I would have preferred if the races' duration was kept unchanged to 20/40 mins. But that's just me
NightShift
S2 licensed
Quote from Bandit77 :if it isn't big, I wouldn't be suprised if the majority went "what the f have they been doing all the time????"

They're doing that already they will be replied, as always, the devs can do whatever they want, why don't you read this and this thread, <insert your favorite community dogma here>.

Life on the boards will go on as usual <sigh>
NightShift
S2 licensed
Quote from Zen321 :Probably of the older generation (60 to 75), but then are some people in LFS THAT old ?

Of course there are. Don't you think you're being a little disrespectful here?

Just because a person is 70 years old it doesn't mean he/she is a moron or has never seen a computer in his life. Even before the PC (which, if I may remind it to you, it's already 30 yo) there were terminals and a number of people who worked with computers in business and academical environments as well.

I set up a linux box for a relative who's approaching 70 and another one keeps asking me and he's well in his 60s...

OTOH when I was a kid there were high hopes that all the new generations would learn to use a computer in the future.

Nowadays we are left with a bunch of teens who are not any better than their grannies! They can go on all day long tinkering on their iThings and electronical gadgets but using a computer is often a challenge to them beyond the most basic tasks.

Technically savvy people are a transversal group, age means relatively little to them.
NightShift
S2 licensed
Quote from Speed Soro :the transitions of a plane is always slower than a car

Quote from Speed Soro :What I want here is to make a brain storm with people who know what a simulator is,

NightShift
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I only use ClamWin because the last time I actually saw a virus was around 1990 I think.
NightShift
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Nice to see we do agree on something from time to time Among the announced updates there was also something mechanical, which many thought to be multi-link suspensions.

We'll see
NightShift
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Quote from ColeusRattus :The only thing that would make it possible to have modding would be an internal "market place" which would automatically download the newest versions of all installed mods.

You mean like LFSworld for skins? if the mods are big, downloads would eat a lot of bandwidth, then again we already have LFSW credit for skins, so as long as the price is fair and covers the costs... why not?
NightShift
S2 licensed
Quote from Bandit77 :the update has to be BIG (like rain AND tracks AND decent tyres). if it isn't - well... I don't really know.

Seriously? We're not going to get anything that big IMO - assuming that by tracks you mean a new environment, and as long as you were talking about 0.6A (or B or whatever they're gonna call it)

TBH I would be more than glad if the next patch had anything new beyond what is in Z10 + VWS + the updates that were announced already. Even a new track configuration would be a surprising easter present
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NightShift
S2 licensed
Quote from ajp71 :People who don't understand what they're doing make rubbish unmotivated employees.

It's worse than that, they tend to do quite big and dramatic mistakes, even in response to small changes in their inputs. Besides if you don't know what the machine is supposed to tell you, you lose the ability to do basic correctness checks.
Sheesh
NightShift
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Quote from CarlLefrancois :Think of club racers who meet at a local track every so often to race. Can you imagine one of them coming up and saying " hey we should really rip up turns x, y and lay some new asphalt! this old track is so BORING ". ...

And can you imagine to take a flight to Jamaica every time you switch from Blackwood to Fern Bay?

Do you stare at your room's ceiling for 8 hours imagining yourself on the plane?
NightShift
S2 licensed
@ PMD I was to post the same thing but then I noticed it also says an official league is going to start 'soon' or sth along those lines.

If it brings more drivers to LFS then it's great, OTOH we're not forced to use it...
NightShift
S2 licensed
Quote from S14 DRIFT :Cut Algebra and introduce Engineering

Sig material
NightShift
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I'm not sure Scavier can be persuaded to change their no mod policy.

When they read these kind of threads, especially when they're NOT started by an 8 yo who's got his S2 license less than 8 minutes ago, I suppose they should at least acknowledge somehow the burning desire the community has for more content (maybe they will )

As a compromise, I'd suggest relaxing their 'stage policy' and actually release S2.1, S2.2 etc for a small fee each and with a little new content. This could certainly be done if part of the S3 content has already been prepared and it doesn't fit in some kind of a bigger plan.
NightShift
S2 licensed
This bit got my attention:

Quote from bbman :1. 1000 people CANNOT give any meaningful analysis of a country's youth...

Why not? As long as the experiment is carefully designed, the sample is chosen using sound techniques which ensure inference will work, etc etc

e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_inference

I'm not saying that data is reliable, but since we don't have a source for it, we cannot conclude anything regarding its quality.

I agree the article is trash, i.e.

Quote from bbman : But then I'd fire the idiot responsible for that article - either he/she's dumb him/herself or he/she can't research properly...

Most likely the journalist was just cooking up some article to attract attention in the big big world of infotainment. His boss probably told him/her to do so.

I hear stupid things like this everyday when I turn on my TV set to listen to the news, the general public isn't interested in the important things, they're hard to understand and sound boring.

OTOH they like things like the ball-throwing robot to keep your dog entertained
NightShift
S2 licensed
I'll address the main points of those couple posts which are direct replies to my last one, the rest is for the sake of discussion:

Quote from Juls :You completely missed my point. Their target, like for the shoemaker, would be to keep doing what they like, and live from it, as long as possible.

I think I've got you point perfectly and my reply is, any growing business that is not some ultra-luxurious product (which by its nature appeals ONLY to a very select number of disgustingly rich people) will have to face a bottleneck in its own development. It's just a matter of time

If you still want to argue, the only point which makes sense is that LFS probably still hasn't reached that stage.

Quote from Hallen :If you don't like the business model, then fine, that's your prerogative. But don't criticize something you don't understand.

I like LFS and its licensing model very much, and I was not criticizing it. If that's what you understood I suggest you re-read my post before politely suggesting me to shut up

PS: The examples I made about car and car equipment manufacturers were only chosen because those sectors are likely to be familiar to people posting here. I say this just in case.

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For the sake of discussion now:

Quote from Juls :I did not want to say Scavier makes a luxury product,

Yes in fact...

Quote from Juls :limited series hand crafted cars.

....are a prime example of non-luxury products

If you are aware of many limited series hand crafted cars which are not also luxury products please post them here, I'm sure many would be interested in a handcrafted alternative to a Ford Focus or Toyota Corolla, of course at the same price point of the mass produced product

Otherwise gimme a big break

Quote from Juls :I heard about guys there who still make tailored shoes, in small workshop for same price than mass-produced shoes.

Same price? Same cost would more like it

There are indeed several micro shoemakers in my country, the only problem is those shoes easily sell for several thousands euros a pair (if you're lucky). You could buy thousands of LFS licenses for just the price of ONE shoe

Quote from Juls :It works because their products are known for their quality,

In fact the pope and his cronies, a number of politicians and VIPs from all over the world come here to buy their luxury, handcrafted shoes. That's why they don't need to do mass marketing BTW.
NightShift
S2 licensed
Quote from Bladerunner :This should be in a new topic: "Films NOT to see at any cost!"

I had thought about opening one but I think it would end up in a massive flame, e.g. my top entry among recent movies would likely be the atrocious Seven Pounds if anybody thinks you can do what Will Smith does at the end of the movie after doing whatever he did, then I happen to own an interesting Fountain in Piazza Navona Roma that I'd like to sell for a very reasonable price 92 minutes before they even get to do what it was clear they were going to do since the beginning - I thought my eyes were going to bleed!

Simply one of the worst script I've seen in recent times, no question about that.
NightShift
S2 licensed
Quote from Huru-aito :I'll wait till 18:30 UTC (~1½ hrs) to update the list if there's someone who decides to cancel his participation (PM me if you can't make it).

Glad I made it in time, as I wrote you in the PM:

Quote :(...) had a very busy day today and I've still some things left to do!

I could make it but with no time left to practice, so I'd be more than glad to let my place go to one of the drivers in the waiting list.

Hope you all enjoy the race!
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