Quote from Jamexing :

The Koenisegg CCX is a completely different story though. Well, if the stig (Top Gear's Test Driver) could crash it on the track, then it's definitely ridiculously overpowered for its available rear grip. It's a car so unstable without rear downforce at the absolute limit that elite drivers guys would struggle with it.

Would be a shitty driver if he never slid anything off the track...

you make some interesting points JJ. So long as we are left with enough adjustment to tweak the balance I would probably be in favour of it, after thinking it over. It *would* be nice to have to deal with wallowy, imperfect springs / dampers etc, I think.

whatever works for you, of course I don't like CSR overpowering the normal LFS sounds, I like it working in tandem, and I didn't test it on anything but 1.

Am driving the xrt at the moment, so made a soundset for it. It uses a number of sounds and portions from the other soundsets, the engine sound is from James's lx6 soundset, but this sounds different because of the lower revs and turbo. I like it and figured others may get some use out of it. Designed to be used with a csr volume of 1.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~cdriver/XRT_csr_blowtus.zip

The turbo spool noise behaves rather oddly with clutch usage - boost stays steady but you can hear all manner of fluctuations and dropoffs from the turbo.
Also might be nice to include a batch file to run csr in abovenormal priority
"start /abovenormal csr.exe"

Great work on the program.

Last edited by Blowtus, Tue 24 Oct 2006, 02:58.

who says it's coming? It's just an end user that doesn't like people playing the demo, hardly the first time it's happened...

Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

I'm saying that I think how they're done is a real acheivement that can only get better.

I think a lot of us agree with this

not sure what it'll prove myself... some of us are more effected by emotion when driving than others?

I find CSR with the lx6 brilliant. I have the CSR volume set to 1 though, so the LFS sounds still figure, all mixes quite well imho... don't feel at all handicapped by it.

drag the volume offset of the throttle on drivetrain noise down to 0 and see if that is what you're talking about Boris. If not it must be in the high revs throttle on sample...

your entirely right about pitspotter, sorry. I read a number of posts talking about being unable to make pitspotter and csr work, and assumed too much
PS and CSR are working fine for me now.

fair point - never heard one that loud though

I adjusted this soundset to suit my tastes, the transmission whine is far lower, gearshifts sound the same regardless of h-pattern position, a little gearbox noise when you back off, and a lower pitch on the engine, are the basics. Sounds great to my ears now, so I'm happy - thanks for your work on this James.

My modified one can be found here
http://members.iinet.net.au/~cdriver/LX6_csr_blowtus.zip

ok, I got this to work - have pitspotter and csr functional, but I get thousands of 'unknown packet' messages, making it currently unusable.

edit: am unable to make it work again, same old 'unexpected error occurred'
using xp sp2, .net 1.1 and 2.0
edit2: made it go again - quite temperamental clearly same unknown packet issues

Last edited by Blowtus, Thu 19 Oct 2006, 04:41.

aston club in the mrt has got to be one of the best combos for *racing* around. It's pretty dull to lap, but chuck a bunch of mrt's at it...

fair enough, at least it's been thought about. I've never heard a car develop anything like that level of dif whine before, usually just a boomy wind noise and monotonous tyre drone...
even with the standard road car gearbox you'll still hear a bit from sportscars, I'd expect particularly so on the 'raw' variety like lx6.

I reckon MRT provides the best racing. With less crap collision dynamics it would be even further ahead imho - currently it gets thrown around quite a lot from small taps...

Quote from Gentlefoot :

LFSers are better at typing while driving. They're probably better at driving slightly p1553d too.

I'm gonna try that one on the officer next time...

funny thread

the engine sounds pretty good on it's own, just revving - but it sounds like a jet plane taking off when you accelerate along the straights. not sure what that whine is meant to simulate? Gearbox whine is engine speed dependant, not road speed...

edit: seems like this may be an intrinsic issue to the carsound remixer. Fair enough. Still don't like it

Last edited by Blowtus, Tue 17 Oct 2006, 08:38.

Just earlier I had left lfs paused on a replay for about 10 minutes, then went to exit LFS and it left me hanging at a black screen with mouse visible. alt-f4 then closed whatever it was no worries. this is on u22.

I don't understand why you couldn't run a good sample through the same algorythyms LFS sound currently uses?

I found the lx6 extremely sensitive to front tyre pressure - low pressure responded slower and didn't cause sudden spikes in force to upset the rear, but on some tracks higher pressure was required for straight line speed. I was able to make the car driveable again (without resorting to major mid corner grip reduction methods like crap front tyres / camber etc) by toeing out the fronts by as much as 0.6. This had the effect of reducing the 'dartyness' of the front end, which kept the back end much more settled. Overall corner speed was not affected. I also ran toe in on the rears (up to about 0.5) for better traction on the rear putting power down.

Quote from z3r0c00l :

Surely if you can't drive each corner consistantly enough to know if a change in line in one corner has affected your laptime in either direction, you arn't consistant enough to be searching for 1-3mph anywhere anyway?

Well, you're wrong I and others benefit from knowing the exact speed through the corner. I'm not slow, neither are the others I've seen comment on it. You may be fast and drive differently - good for you.
I'd still rather a realistic speedo instead of a 'perfect' speedo though, even if it is slightly slower / harder to learn.

Quote from z3r0c00l :

Good points everyone, but every car has an absolutely perfect lap timer, if you want to be fast, that's what you need to be looking at, the speedo is a pitiful measure of performance compared to a lap timer.

lap times give you little useful information about particular corners.

yeah I had the black screen after alt-tabbing I believe.

assymetric setups have the potential to be faster - more adjustability.
it's often worth running high pressure on the non dominant side, for extra acceleration.