Wow. Thats a bit on the amazing side of things.

Join the Licened community mate and then you can drive any car you wish to.. .

Used to race with a guy called Simba alot (My hours of working means I was normally playing very early in the morning. Never worked out where he was from but he was a shit hot racer. Some very good races with him) and I ranout of the fuel onthe last lap of Ast. Nat. coming up to the dodgy chicane. Was the first time I had ever got a decent lead on him, I was dropping PB's on every lap and we had been racing like bastards. I managed to coast through the chicane and decided to punt for the finish rather than coast through the pits. (This was before I worked out you can pit and cross the line through the pits.

My mate Simba foregoed his win by bumping me across the line so we got a 1st and 2nd. He was a nice racer. I miss racing.

I want a computer.

Boohooo.

try adjusting you mouse settings.

If you reduce your Mouse sensitivity in windows LFS takes it's mouse speed from that and take of any acceleration you may have within the windows control panel. That should give you back some control. Also, reduce your dead zone as much as you can in the control options within LFS (I can't remember what figure I was using off the top of my head).

Reducing the Steering degree (Once your racing) will give you even more control of your steering inputs.

Hope that helps you in some way. The community doesnt really support trying to 'cheat' through anything. So we'd rather help you as much as we can to enable you to get better by yourself. But in answer to your question there are no saved games for you to use. You don't particularily need to do the lessons, they don't unlock anything or give you hidden features. So other than the teaching they arn't nessesary to progress in LFS. It's all about the racing.

Welcome any way.

Hey. I did resist yesterday after I overstepped the mark. And appologised for it.

But now. S'ok.

Why is everyone so anti political or even anti arguement. Mayeb I am making a political statement. But along with a constructive arguement. I'm not lowering the tone here, or trying to be too funny or insulting. I am giving an alternative viewpoint. Prehaps here was not the place, but I'd rather tac one in here than start a whole 'anti' 4th of july thread. I'd get complelty flamed for that.

This is a Forum and the very reason d'etre of a Forum is to discuss, disagree and debate.

I mean. Would you like me to start a new thread? 'A further discussion on the true meaning of Independance Day - Can Will Smith really fly a space ship?'

Or should it stay nicely contained in here?


And another thing.

You obviously are interested in contributing to the thread otherwise you wouldn't have . . . contributed.

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Mate. Don't worry. I won't get offended. I rather enjoy a discussion with a little more substance. As I hope that you will not take my comments as a malicious attack in any way. These are my views and my views alone, you are more than welcome to rip them apart.

But I am still struggling somewhat to get your jist in the matter. Are you . . . Is it that . . . . Should I . . . Nope, sorry. I really can't get your meanings.


AS regards to your sign off. I have no problem with it as a decleration of your belief I myself are from a very religious background. Although independance day is not a religious celebration, its a political statement. Celebrating the fact that you triumphed against the oppressor, that you sunk their ships, burnt thier buildings and murdered the infidel in their thousands (As did we, we have no moral high ground here. I do, but then I wasn't there and I always claim the moral high ground) Does all that sound familiar?


Allah be with you.

I shall see if I can go through this bit by bit and make some sense of it . . .

Quote from hpisloud :

Ok, i think i've seen enough- this guy is a classic example. Here we are given one extreme presented under the premise that americans are imposing our political prowess in places where we shouldn't be,

You are. Sorry. Your administraion is.

Quote from hpisloud :

resulting in a "hate" felt by non-americans (and americans, mind you) that need not arise. However, his argument is given from the same position- one that is given in a place that is more than likely not welcomed, is given to change america's political stance, and more than likely will result in american's hating him.

Now here's the deal- i think it's easy to assume that he doesn't truly believe what he's saying because he's retaliating the very way he's offended...which i guess is normal, but as most of the world sees america, it's sort of "barbaric".

I'm not saying don't have a point of view, because it's important that you do. But when you hate america because they have proven they hate your foreign affair policy, it doesn't make it right....the same is true when america doesn't like certain middle east foreign affair policies by hi-jacking planes and destroying the world trade centers, and part of the pentagon.

No Middle east state has that on their foriegn aggender. Al Qaeda does, or at least did. But they are not a Middle east state.

Quote from hpisloud :

I guess it's important to realize the coin has two sides, and usually it falls one way or the other- it's very hard to get a coin to balance on its side.

By the way- remember that our country was mainly founded by europeans...only some 230 years ago. So we got the best- and worst- of all your governments...haha...and we're still trying to weed out the worst.

Happy 4th of July! Grace and peace to all of God's children in every kingdom!

Nope. I tried. Sorry. Still can't get it.

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I'm really sorry. I couldn't get any of what you where just talking about.


I'm not being facisious but if you could just explain yourself better because I must be having a dense moment.

I also assume you didn't mean for your sign off to be ironic in any way did you. No. Thought not.

Quote from neilmichaelcasey :

Seriously Its just kids who have never had any contact with Girls who will be bothering you & your gonna get that everywhere, im not sure if there is definitive answer to this BUT maybe a 'Wall of Perves' might work, where all the little Pervs are forced to sign. Just an idea.

Peace & good luck. FB

Where do I sign?

Can I use really big letters and use crayon?

Must I right it out a hundred times before dawn otherwise I'll be a very bad boy and need spanking?

Because I have been a really naughty boy. I've had improper thoughts and need chastising.

I need Becky to tell me that I have been a very naughty boy with Tiny holding the whip and a very large pussy doing something imaginative.




I'm going to get into trouble soon arn't I.

Quote from mrbogeyman :

England celebrates St.Georges Day as a national day.
Scotland celebrates St.Andrews Day as a national day.
Wales...um...remind me someone....daffodil day?
Obviously Ireland has St.Patricks.

Wales - St Davids day.

And did you know that American actually sent an invasion force to Britain. Only one ship made it and landed at Dartmouth or something like that. Needless to say they wern't particularily succesful.

Met my American mate yesterday and we are still the best of friends. Even he wasn't particularily bothered about I.D. We've trained him well. In fact he kinda said to me what I said at the start (Without prompting I hasten to add) that it was a bit sucky to shout out that America is celebrating it's independance from a country that is now it's partner in crime whilst it's holding most of the rest of the world to ransom by fair means of foul. (He's at law school atm so he's a bit up on his foriegn policy.) I think there is alot of Irony in this whole thing somewhere.

I'm not going to rain on your parade, have your celebration. Chink your glasses, throw some firecrackers, drink your beer. Just don't shout it out to the rest of the world. Because the rest of the world doesn't need any more escuses to hate america.

I figure I'm allowed to say stuff again as it's now July 5th and nobody really got on the celebration thing.

Quote from Scawen :

Let's imagine you owned a small shop and you're working at the till. And let's suppose the light in the drinks fridge was broken. And you put a sign on the door, saying "The light is broken, sorry". And you tried to position that sign so it's impossible that anyone could open the fridge without seeing the sign.

And then you find that 1000 people visit the shop, and 100 of them say "Mate, the fridge light is broken". And some of them shouting across the shop "Mate, the fridge light doesn't work". It would begin to become irritating. At first you'd smile and say "Yes, thanks". Gradually you'd begin to say "Yes, I know". Slowly you'd start to say "Yes, there is a sign on the door". Then, "Yes, that's why there is a sign on the door". Soon you'd start to take a breath and growl quietly, "Yes I know that". Eventually it would be like "I've put a sign on the door! Why does no-one read it?" Then the next person would start to fire up adrenaline rushes as you hold back your anger "Can you read? There's a sign on the bloody door that says the light doesn't work!"

And if you lock the fridge in another room then they won't bother you . . . ;o). It could be your special drinks fridge with only your special drinks in. That need to be kept in the dark untill they are ready. And only your friends know where the fridge is, and they give you a nod and a wink as they pass the counter and you slip them the key to the door. They drink from the fridge then slip you a note saying thankyou as they leave. Then noone bothers you about the light in the fridge. Either that or just lock the door and bugger off down the pub, which is what I would do.

See. I'm an idiot. Great innit.

I don't think there is anything wrong with treating them like idiots, if idiots are what they are. I'm an idiot, people treat me like one all the time. It's a great place to be. Get such a wonderful veiwpoint on the world if your in the idiot corner.

I can understand why people post suggestions and the like ina thread such as the patch thread. It's actually a fairly natural thing to happen and somewhat ineviatable.

Thus if true, educated and considered feedback is requiered then a secure forum is needed. Otherwise this kinda of thing will just keep repeating itself over and over again.

If they where truly patriotic they would care more about what their government was up too and who they voted for.

Sorry, thats not fair.

But you can't really compare celebrating an independance day which is known throughout the world to celebrating a saints day. It's kinda like me taking your computer then letting you watch while I play your favorite game. Way back when Americans where insurgents, they where terrorists, tehy where gurillas. The difference is, they won. (With the help of the French.) Imagine being in Baghdad being a Sunni Muslim watching American soldiers flying thier flags high and listening to their celebrations of independance. Clapping each other on the back and going yeehaww. If I was the Sunni Mulsim, I would would be getting a bit frustrated and a bit hot under the collar.

Edit - And I appologise for hijacking an innocent thread. I shall comment no more.

Celebrating the fact that our country was taken away from us? I find that insulting!!

If not hypocritical.

(I know, I know. It was an innocent July the 4th comment. But on an international forum it's bound to stir some sentiment anti or pro. He's celebrating, I'm offering an alternative view point. And before any one beats me for being anti american I am this very day going to meet my good american buddy whos come all the way from Virginia just to see me and we will discuss the anglo-american V the world standing till the cows come home and still walk away as friends.)

Edit - And I know that as a brit I can also be labelled as being hypocritical. But I will be the first to blast Blair and out foriegn policy atm too.

I'm kinda with yer there preacher.

I actually don't think it's my place to make suggestions per se. I think I have made one since I joined and even that was a bit half hearted.

I've payed for a product because I can't do it myself. If I really want my speedo to look a certain way or for my skidmarks to show then I will go and make a game myself. But I can't, so I pay for someone else to do it. And I'm very happy with the result. If I wasn't, I'de go somewhere else.

Scawen talks about lots of stuff I have no comprehension about, I play the game ( Or will when I get a rig again) and I'm over the moon with it, s'not my place to tell him how to make his game. (Although I am still an opionated bastard)

Prehaps you should let some other countries have thier independance back. Then the celebration would mean all the more.

Yep. Put in the laps. Different setups are more applicable on different tracks as well and if you learn what does what and how then once you have got yourself a good setup you can adjust it accordingly for different tracks whilst still maintaining a comfortable car.

But it does take a bit of time. Don't expect any immeadiate results. LFS don't work like that. You will get frustrated, you will think your too slow, you won't be able to race cometativly with the fast guys. But one day, maybe not today, mayeb not tomorrow, but some day soon. It will all change. Everything will slot into place and you'll be top of the pack everytime.

where did he get that from?

A women can only have a certain amount of testosterone. Otherwise they stop being women.

I like my women with a bit of spunk, but not so much as to be giving it back to me. (Looks like I'm staying in the gutter for a while. I quite like it down here. You get an a very good view of the world from down here, you can fit it all in without turning your head and you can watch it whilst lying down. Very healty perspective if you ask me. Come, join me. Plenty of room down here and I'm very friendly.)

If Scawen hadn't beaten me to the punch I would have suggested the secret forum section. If Mr Scawen is going to get as involved and effected as he is (I'm not slagging that off, I think it's a refreshing change) by interaction with the userbase then there needs to be a quality control. I must admit on a personal note I feel that as LFS is a paid for by consumers for Scawen to react like he has in a public, open, forum shows to me that he (you, if your reading. I'm not writing anything I wouldn't say to you . . . my lord.) doesn't really recognise what he has here. LFS has grown. It has become a beast that just can't be governed by a gentile forum anymore. The kids have got involved and they are here to stay. Some will get the idea and fall into the LFS ethos but as popularity grows more and more people will be posting random remarks about a subject they really know nothing about.

It's not going to stop happeing just because Scawen has come on and talked about banning. Yes, its his Forum. Yes, he has ultimate power and control over LFS and it's affiliates. But reading Scawens post in this thread about the banning (Bearing in mind the pressure, scale of pissed off'ness, constant badgering. I would find it difficult not to react.) one of my first thoughts was that it was a bit unprofessional. I get the inpression that if a developer came on in one of the BF2 forums as much as Scawen did here then that developer would be open to so much abuse, random comments, stupid suggestions, crazy randomness that it would drive them crazy. Which is why many developers don't interact with their userbase, or if they do it's via 'news' releases and like. Certainly not through continued discussion like Scawen participates in.

But it's only going to get worse. Scawens market is us idiots here. Us that make the stupid suggestions. Us that wind him up. Us, all of us that make him wonder why he is doing it for because we are never happy. It's ain't going to get any better mate. I wish I could say it would. But it ain't.

So unless Scawen can gain the ability to step back from the drivel he reads and cherry pick what he can, but he appears to be an involved kinda chap; and wants to be, then prehaps the only way to go is a private forum and for Scawen to surround himself with dedicated luetenants.

Personally. I have paid for this product and I wouldn't want to be excluded. But, I also feel quite lucky to have the involvement witht eh developer that this community enjoys. It's not the done thing. And I think Scawen is beginning to see why it's not the done thing.

Prehaps another solution is for the community to really pull together and to protect the devs to some degree. Maybe indoctrinate more Mods, get the mods more involved. (I don't subscribe to censorship but for the protection of our Dev/player relaisionship I'm willing to seperate the wheat from the chaff).

If we cherish what we have here to any degree then we also need to take on the responsibilty to protect Scawen from the idiots out there.

But I stll think banning people is a little harsh. Pat them on the head and say bless, yes. Ban them, don't think so.



Edit - I just read through the Patch Thread. And that last comment by Steve about not reading throught the thread made laugh out loud. The preverbial straw that broke the camels back me thinks.

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Met my ex on t'internet. (Take note Bear fans of the 'Ex'). Got to know her on the Tenacious D Forums. She had a kid so I gave some tickets for the Panto we where putting on. Met up, kid had a great time, we had a good chat about life, the universe and everything so we continued to meet up quite a bit. She decided that she really liked me, I'm the kinda guy who goes with the flow, push came to shove and I moved to Cardiff from Oxford.

Two years later . . . .

She don't want me around no more, gained a daughter (Which I have no regrets about whatsoever other than the timing, but hey. Life gives you what life gives you.) and moved back to Oxford. Now scraping whatever living I can trying to get some direction back in my life.

So.

Internet romances. Can be good, certainly started out that way for me. But can be bad, me and my ex had no RL history. Nothing to ground ourselves in other than first reactions. Which arn't always the best ones.

Ironically one of the things she cited against me was that I was a computer geek. (I'm not a major geek, but I do like my games. Maybe I should make that a lesson learned.) We met on the intraweb for ffs! What did she expect!

It works for some people. Me, I'm gunna be a bit more cautious in the future. So any smutty talk from me is just that. Smutty, plain and simple. Dirty as dirt is. Filthy, gutter dwelling, say it like I think it, honest to goodness smut.

So whos for some hanky panky? How's yer father? Duvet double team? The saucy Samba? The Mardi Gra Marimba? Head Board Bashing?

Ok. Ok. I'll stop now. Getting a temperature.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I like the new speedo. Since I started racing LFS I've always relied too much on the speedo and spent a lot of time staring at it, so anything you can do to make it less useful is fine by me.

Seriously!

Take a good book mate. Balamce that on the steering wheel, that'll make you look less at the speedo.

So LFS has tied the Change light to the clutch position. How else should it be done?

(Thats not being fractous. Just seeing what there is to say about it.)

Quote from seggons :

Something i've found while playing:

When im in any gear, at the red line point you get the little red dot appear, but if you touch the clutch pedel, even slightly, the red dot goes out even though you are still jumping off the rev limiter.

My understanding is that the red dot should come on and stay on at the required shift point weather the clutch is engaged or not?

Depends.

If it's a gear change indicator then you depressing the clutch is indicating that you are about to change gear. I don't think that it's a rev limiter, which is what you are intumating, if it was then the engine would stop revving at that point. If my memory serves me correctly you can over rev from the point the light comes on.

So what do you want? A rev limiter set at the change gear point. (Not ideal as it forces you to change regardless of situation) or an indicator of ideal gear change (Which is what you have). The engine still has revs in it with power, just not peak power. Maybe in RL the gear change light would stay on untill the revs dropped the maximum rev limit being governed by an engine management system but LFS obviously uses the clutch as a trigger for the light to go out.

Maybe I now see what you are saying.

Hmmmm. Confused myself now.

Got me too. Good post.