Quote from danowat :

TZR? pha, I had an RD125LC, now THAT was a machine

The Widow Maker is the one - RD350LC - classic bike.

I'd wait until I got my full licence and then would by a 600cc sports bike of some sort.

The little 125s/250s are so light with such skinny little tyres they blow about all over the place in the wind. Not funny sometimes.

Also, on a bigger fatter looking bike car drivers will give you a little more respect if you ever filter past them. On smaller bikes it gets them really riled. I remember when I was learning on a little SR 125 thingy. Never give you any room at all if they see a small bike and L plates.

My favourite forms of motorsport are always grass roots stuff. I like motorsport where there really is danger, for spectators and drivers alike.

Nothing better than having to turn and run cos someone has got it wrong and they are heading straight for the tyres 2 metres in front of you.

I like motorsport where you can wander into the paddock and any of the competitors will happily tell you what mods they've done and where to get the best burger.

I like motorsport where there are no crowds and you can puff away on the old 'Mary' and no one gives a monkeys

But most of all, these types of motorsports are best cos it is nearly always free to get in and I'm totally scint right now.

Don't get too excited all - it may never happen.

Many of the teams are pressuring the FIA drop the idea. Williams have in fact just invested 10s of thousands of £S into a hi tec tyre warming equipment which allows them to set up the temps easier.

Quote from Gnomie :

What about cambers? I always get scared when I see that the inside of the tires warm up significantly faster. Therefore, for long races I lower the cambers to get a more flat temperature profile. But then my "problem" is that no part of the tyre ever gets orange/red, they all stay green until they get so worn that they go blue at the end of the race. I don't think this is optimal, either.. (I've only tried long races with the RAC/LX6/XRT/URF/FO8)

I run the same cambers for a short run as I would for a long race. I do find however that R1s work better with a touch more neg camber than R2s.

When the tyres go through the hot patch you have to amend your driving style to manage the temps for a few laps in order to maintain some reasonable level of grip. You can also set the front rear temp balance so that when they go through the hot stage you will suffer from understeer or oversteer depending on if the fronts get hotter than the rears or not.

Still about 10 slots left on the GFC grid and about 4 slots left on the GTTC grid if anyone wants to join us this coming Sunday.

Quote from TFalke55 :

If nothing goes sent the drivers to my LFSCART, although the format is abit different to what you are doing in the Gentlefoot cup, but it is still FO8 racing... hopefully with better filled grids... your FOX cup is looking fine filled to me...

F08 class has picked up again now following the introduction of the overall Team Championship. Many teams have realised they can net more points by fielding two drivers in FOX and another 2 in F08 class.

A number of FOX drivers will switch at the start of the next season too.

Don't forget it's bank holiday this weekend. I know there are a hell of a lot of good events on. RallyX at Lydden, A1GP at Brands maybe if I remember right. Need to check the Calendar hehe

Quote from Woz :

It is impossible to maintain WR pace in race longer than a few laps, the tyres would not take it.

That's not strictly true.

Those of us who compete in longer races know that R2s can be just as fast as R1s when they have done 20 odd laps and they start to wear thin and cool. And the last few laps before they pop, say after an hours worth of running, they generate huge amounts of grip and very little scrub.

Road tyres behave in a similar way after they begin to wear thin.

Ofcourse this only works if you have run aggressive pressures that meant the tyres got very hot between say 5 and 10 laps. This means they don't get too cold when they wear thin.

Just to illustrate, I have set some of my PBs on R2s in the FOX after 30 odd laps. You just have to get through that hot stage the tyres go through in their lifecycle.

Rev limits are lower too so you need taller, closer gears. Power band is narrower.

Anyone up for some more racing again tonight? Server is set for qualifying now but when we get a few of us on we can switch it to racing. Say about 9ish again?

Server is Gentlefoot.com#1 and it's now set to Aston Grand Touring which is the next race on the GFC/GTTC calendar.

Nice, fast and flowing, quite a contrast to FE Black Rev but no less frustrating hehe

yep - always record in 640X480 or at the biggest 800X600. My machine is half decent still but any res bigger than this and it starts to struggle. Not the graphics card, memory or processor. It's the disk I/O that causes the problem. The write rate simply cannot keep up with the amount of data generated by FRAPS when using the larger screen resolutions.

Can anyone get anywhere near Storm Racing??

Its a general guideline and testing is the only way to find the correct camber angles for maximum grip but yeah, I find this kind of heat distribution works pretty well on slicks, grooved and road tyres.

You only learn by getting in there and having a go. Reasonable people accept that mistakes are made sometimes.

Quote from Lateralus :

Well yes, I'd be surprised.

LFS definitely does increase confidence while driving at least for some people, but the huge flaw in the article is that it equates confidence with aggression or risk-taking.

I'm a better, safer driver because of LFS. I pay closer attention to each car around me, how it's behaving, how fast it is moving relative to me, etc. I look further down the road. I pay closer attention to small bumps and things in the road which may affect traction. I just generally focus more, and people who are passengers while I'm driving often tell me that I'm a safe driver. Yet I have fun while driving too. In certain situations on public roads, it's completely safe to chuck it into a corner a little bit. Not enough to actually approach the limit of course, but just give yourself a sense that it's there. Makes driving much more exciting.

You missed my point mate

What I'm saying is that it is not the racing game that is the cause of people taking risks on the road. Instead it is the nature of the people playing racing games and taking risks on the road.

I guess to put it another way you could say that people who take risks on the road are more likely to buy an S2 licence.

It's the cause/effect that I was on about

Quote from Gekkibi :

Do you need any cheerleaders? I don't dare to join the race, but I could join the server and watch it.

hehe all r welcome. And I'm sure you'll be fine - there will be a mix of GFC and general random public racers on I expect.

Should be another good turnout again tonight by the sound of it

See ya all in 4 hours.

Kinda stupid research if you ask me.

Is it a surprise that drivers who are likely to take risks on the road are the same drivers who are likely to play a racing simulator game? I could have told them that without spending millions on research

The nutter rank includes every single combo. Then there are the individual car ranks too.

Quote from jarmenia :

I'll try and stop by but I've got a very busy weekend ahead. Are you guys around during the week at all?

Yeah but the time difference means it'll be in the afternoon for you. But there is always a few of us about any evening or weekend.

Quote from Juls :

Today I wanted to use the LX4/LX6 online. Unfortunately there is no server with a proper combo. So I chose a server allowing all cars...it seemed to me such a server is a place where people can use any car.

Haha, what a mistake...as soon as I took LX6 I was banned. All this is boring. When I have network lag, other people think I am drifting and ban me. When I lose control (on a training server, not even in a race)...they think I am a wrecker and ban me because one guy had to brake a bit to avoid me. When I chose a different car and stay behind just to learn better to keep my distance and drive cleanly they ban me without any warning message. Why do they allow it then?

Please improve again AI so that I do not have to play online anymore.

You just happened upon a very bad server. Not all of them are like that.

Come along to the gentlefoot server on Saturday. We can give you sets so you can get a feel for how the FOX should respond. Also we can give you some tips on lines and stuff. It will be very useful for you to watch some of the GFC guys lapping.

I can make some changes to the set too for you, tell you what I did and you can feel the differences.

Have you looked in the system/application event logs?

Was a great laugh again last night - thanks all. We do it again tonight 21:00 again if you fancy it


btw - I'll probably switch to FO8 next season and I think a few others might too.