lol you guys are confusing this person, and me! Simply put, you can call it either, GPU or graphics card, as GPU stands for graphics processing unit, which is the graphics card.. yeah

Quote from jamesisinthehouse12 :

yeah!!! :d

+489573497534

It may not be official yet, but I think deep down everyone knows this is absolutely a cheat. I'm a long time PC gamer, beta tester, even some modding, and this is absolutely the definition of a cheat. At this exact moment in time some may be conflicted, but look at it this way.

If it were made clearly by the dev's/programmers that it "WAS" a cheat, probably only 5% of racers would have an issue with it. However, if it were made clear that it was "NOT" a cheat, I absolutely believe more than half of all racers would have a problem with it.

They still need to factor the torque's shock factor on the drivetrain. In my mustang if I don't heal and toe, the rear tires will chirp, and it sounds rough on the rear end.

Last edited by DHRammstein, Thu 17 Jul 2008, 21:14.

Definitely my favorite track, my trouble has always been the second to last turn, right before going uphill to the right toward the start/finish. I'm always either too fast, too slow, or offline. So recently I've just been hittin the brakes a little early, as far right as I possibly can and early as possible, cruising into the corner, then wot as soon as it seems I have the grip needed to not fire off into the grasss. Seems to work best for now, for me anyways. This is especially a problem with awd cars, as they like to yank across the track under hard acceleration and G's.

Last edited by DHRammstein, Fri 4 Jul 2008, 23:24.

Yeah the graphics and physics are on seperate threads I beleive, so more fps = no advantage. Unlocked fps, online or off, doesn't seem to make a difference for me. I had it maxed 8xaa/16xaf@1680x1050 and it's always around 80-200~, the only time I've hit 333 is with the aa/af off.

Bored, feel like posting in this thread again. I think they should finish any interiors for cars they plan on keeping around. I would >>>LOVE<<< to see extremely realistic guage clusters(don't get me wrong, I love the recent updates to them) but, is it possible to use bump mapping in the LFS engine? If so I think some could be used on the backface of the guages, in the regular and GT cars.

Honestly I'm pretty happy with the game, and while I do love graphics, and am a hardcore FPS fan, and power user, LFS is so fukin good at what it does, it really doesn't bother me. And I didn't pay much, and they're still updtating and updating....


Maybe we should be grateful LFS is a very slow process. It's a game/sim that's being produced by a very few people, with nowhere near the support of someone like Activision or Electronic Arts, and so it comes along very slowly, but.... maybe this is why the quality is so great, they're not under pressure from a producer, they can develop as they see fit. I guess I'm finally realizing what makes LFS so unique, and I think it'll get better and better and eventually be in a new engine and all that, as long as we're all still around, and Scawen and the others keep up the, what I can only imagine, extremely ridiculous hard work(plus I'm sure they have lifes, work, friends, family), it's amazing we get what we do.

/end rant

I had a problem with it too, I had a few caps in my acct name, so I tried typing it out all lower case, then it worked. There's definitely some kind of bug, only affecting few ppl I guess.

Quote from G!NhO :

and i have 90

Really? You should be able to get it into the hundreds if when you play you get 90fps, which is fairly good, about average.

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Quote from Luke.S :

I skip between 40fps 100fps 200fps 300fps and 400fps.

Can you explain?

Random question, is there a cap(not that this matters at all) to the LFS graphics engine, or if you had the power, could you actually hit like 500-1000 fps? I've never broken 1000fps on anything except certain load screens, but still not 1000, always near it, cause I guess it's only rendering a jpeg. I know with 3dmark 2001SE, the oldest one, on certain tests I hit 7-900 but never 1k, is it possible, I guess my question is.

Last edited by DHRammstein, Thu 3 Jul 2008, 23:53.

I think a jump to a DX10 engine shouldn't happen, not for years, and only if LFS continues to grow and is very succesful. However, I would love some DX9 effects eventually. But right now the devs are busy making it a playable simulator, which is the right thing to do. Maybe down the road they'll hire help or simply over time add effects.

IMO lighting is the most noticable factor in games, I also think most people don't even notice it. But imagine more realistic lighting, even just object lighting, or FULL dynamic lighting!! Would make the environments and cars look amazing, with just a few tweaks to the glare of the cars.

That's odd, the only thing I get like that is when I have FRAPS open and at the title screen I get over 900fps lol

Quote from gingiba :

I never really noticed a real difference between games at 300 and 30FPS. Saying 30FPS is unplayable is a bit weird considering movies run at 25FPS, and we have no problem with that. Our eyes aren't precise enough to struggle beyond 30FPS...

Movie's are made differently, I think it's called interlaced. They use motion blur to make it look smooth for movies, there's a big difference.

And actually I tested myself, with my fiance's help, using Doom 3, and I was able to detect teh frame rate up to around 50-55fps.

Quote from master_lfs.5101 :

the grid games demo is out on xbox live! ima download it tommarow

It's really good. One of only two non sim racers I actually like. The graphics are as good as it gets(looks amazing on my pc), the physics aren't all too bad, but very forgiving outside of first gear. But it's just an exciting kind of game, certainly worth playing the demo! That go's for everyone else too!

Quote from G!NhO :

ok now me

my laptop can do ~80 while spectating (sometimes)
max is 55 while driving with few cars in view
average is ~25 i think
on the grid i get ~15
and sometimes i suddenly get 8 FPS
and when my laptop is very hot, it can even reach 4.1 FPS

*all this is with all settings on very very very very very low, screen resolution 640x480 16bit 60Hz NICE

normally i played at 1024x800, but last days its going bad with my laptop

Try to keep the laptop cooler, the heat can cause the computer to throttle down, which is what causes the major drop in FPS. I bought a little foldable plastic thing, it had grooves across it, dropped the cpu 5*c, you can even get one's with one or two fans, they plus into your USB port, and they have a backward jack, so even tho it's using the USB port, the back of the plus has a female on it, so you're not wasting the slot.

Anyways heat is probably your major FPS drop, but it sounds like your CPU is too weak, with the lowest settings it's pretty much on the CPU to get it done, kindof an annoying upgrade, and expensive, for a laptop. Now days you can find laptops for 3-400$ with X2 AMD's, a gig of DDR2 and onboard video that will actually run the game.

I saw a post about drivers, that would be incredibly unlikely. I think it's either the memory or the PSU. PSU's can cause it because of instability, just an instance of it will cause all kinds of hell to the system, hopefully you have another PSU lying around. I think I have a 300W, 19A on the 12V rail(can handle up to a 8600GTS or so) but you live a little far, shipping and all.. It works, used it for a little less than two years with a 3700+ & X800Pro, all stock. Doesn't have PCI-E but most cards come with an adapter. Anyways just figured I'd offer, I only have it because I refuse to throw anything away that could someday benefit me or a friend. Wait I checked again it's 350W, same ampage.

Quote from Stefani24 :

id stick with 800x600 and 7 fps, maybe its because i dont get much more, but its more or less playable with bit under 10 fps.

I wasn't really fowllowing the topic but, do you actually race at ~10 FPS? I can't even race at 30fps.

GRID kills that game, peep the demo from fileshack.

Thanks Scawen for making that clear, just did it, everything works perfectly. Great job by the way, I really really like the interior works, can't wait to see more some day. Also in Y24 the way the guages are, so nice, IMO the most important part of an interior is how the guages look, sharpness and smoothess, and standing out, and they're what I'd say near perfect, and a much needed update.

Ehh, that leaves me hesitant. It either works or doesn't, anyone know? Not a big deal, but I'd like to know, because of how I have things setup.

I'm a little new to trying the patches, quick question. I installed Y24 last week, love it. And I'd like to installl Y30, can I install this right over my Y24 install, or does it have to be an entirely fresh virgin Y version?

Too tired to read through all the test, but Hi-Res pack can be used. I run the game with all stock textures and with lots of AA and AF you can make it look decent. Here's what my game looks like with stock textures, 1680x1050@59HZ full LOD, all three, negative on the dynamic LOD reduction, and using Nhancer to force 8XMSAA and 16XAA, that's all.


Obviously this was before I discovered the Shift+F :sadbanana

Anyways, as it is, it's really not bad considering, however with every mod made for LFS all installled(I saw 3 seperate pics of, they all looked a tad different, diff modds I guess, it still wouldn't come close to a racing game built from the ground up with DirectX 10 tecnology, or even a DX9 engine with DX10 effects(Stalker - Clear Sky, Bioshock). I'm not sure but I believe LFS is based on DX8, if so it's quite impressive actually. If anyone has played Nexuiz, it's a fine example of how far you can push an engine, and it's a free FPS built off the quake engine, which must win the award for the most heavily modded engine ever. Quake 1 is old school, Nexuis has built it up to have/ Full Dynamic Lighting, ((In a Q1 based game!!!!))
If you want LFS to look better, there are guides to improve the graphics, but you'll never get the graphics posted in your pics, especially the one from GRID, to look like LFS.

This is actually a valid and welcome topic for me. Making a game look better isn't hard, it just takes time, or money, or license another's graphics engine. Scawen said it best, I can't remember his exactly qoute, it was in a video but basically he made the point realism should succeed visuals, after all, the community at large are simmers not your typical arcade racers. (OH, for the first time since NFSU2(Fantastic phyiscs for an arcade) I've found an arcade racer I like, GRID, enough that I'm going to buy it) "Good enough" physics, great graphics, and just lots of fun to play. The cockpit view is great, the damage is really good looking too, worth downloading the demo if you have a decent video card .

Last edited by DHRammstein, Sun 29 Jun 2008, 09:35.

A very simple solution would be to run msconfig and disable it in the startup list, however I don't know what effect this may have on your Nero Suite. I'm assuming Nero 7.

If you are not sure if Nero Scout is eating up your CPU, look for these processes in Task Manager:
NMFirstStart.exe
NMIndexStoreSrv.exe

You may still have a Nero Scout icon in Explorer unless you dive into the registry and delete the following:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace
\{3D6BE802-FC0D-4595-A304-E611F97089DC}

It is possible that the hex number will be different on your computer. Search the registry for the data string “Nero Scout"

If that's a no go, and it's Nero 7 you're running, click start, select run, and type exactly this;

regsvr32 /u "%COMMONPROGRAMFILES%\Ahead\Lib\MediaLibraryNSE.dll"

Then click OK and reboot your PC.
Good luck.

If none of this helps, here's a legitimate webpage dealing directly with your problem. I guess Nero Scout can be a severe resource HOG. I've always used NTI, highly recommend itl

Last edited by DHRammstein, Sun 29 Jun 2008, 05:36.

No time to look over posts, but I'd look at PSU first, then memory.

I was looking back through older posts, this one was funny. Just for the hell of it I had my buddy(MacBookPro-PhotoshopGEEK) look at it, and I gave him a regular screenshot of me in the FB02, and told him to do the same thing, he had it done a while later, and it looked twice as real. He was even able to get a more realistic interior. Funny tho, I wonder why the OP didn't realilze the DX8 interior would give it away in the first place. Anyways, this isn't an Electronics Arts or Activision Production or ctivision, I'm sure scawen will give us a taste when the time is right.

IMO this sim is far from ready for a DX10 graphics engine, 80% of the people here either don't have a DX10 GPU, or Vista, or more importantly the power to run it.

Just for the hell of it: I think a remake in DX9.0c with Shader Model 3 would be awesome, but they would have to expand some I think, otherwise it would take a while.
Has there been any word on the engine that'll be used in S3?

Last edited by DHRammstein, Fri 27 Jun 2008, 04:39.

Awesome, can you PM me when it's released? Thanks man!